unlocking (general discussion)

[anybody]

hey I wonder
these people who do remote unlocking, which software do they use?? where did THEY get the calculations???
Instead of trying to crack the dongle (protection), can't someone else figure out the calculations too???

This is all about people being selfish and hungry for money (that they don't deserve). There are so many people who have the software capable of doing the calculations (for instance all those people who do remote unlocking) But none of them released it anywhere. (because they want to make money) I kind of understand that although I don't appreciate it. I believe knowledge should be free. What I don't understand is, how come SonyEricsson and AT&T are letting these people make a lot of money by not giving the consumers the unlocking codes. What do they get out of it???

[bieshwit]

Originally posted by anybody
hey I wonder
these people who do remote unlocking, which software do they use?? where did THEY get the calculations???
Instead of trying to crack the dongle (protection), can't someone else figure out the calculations too???

This is all about people being selfish and hungry for money (that they don't deserve). There are so many people who have the software capable of doing the calculations (for instance all those people who do remote unlocking) But none of them released it anywhere. (because they want to make money) I kind of understand that although I don't appreciate it. I believe knowledge should be free. What I don't understand is, how come SonyEricsson and AT&T are letting these people make a lot of money by not giving the consumers the unlocking codes. What do they get out of it???

Ok put yourselves in there shoes, You have just paid thousands for the remote unlocker, are you really going to give it away ??

Plus the actual author has spent time on this softwarte to make it possible, believe me the one reason he was making it for was to make money, not to give fools like you a freebie.

I can't stand leechers like you who expect to sit back and get everyones hard work for nothing, knowledge costs money, thats why you pay accountants / solicitors and financial advisers for there time.

The only wany to get on in the unlocking world is to pay, lets face it everytime I buy a new piece of software / clip or log i know I will make cash from it and so will you.

Go back to your car boot sales or dodgy shop with your free software and tell nearly everyone, oh i'm sorry I can't unlock that because I'm a loser who doesn't want to pay for stuff.

Sorry if this offends anyone but this type of post really gets my back up and its idiots like this who p**s me off.

If you knew anything about the mobile market you would know that Sony ericsson wouldn't do that because they would get a boycott from the network suppliers who are the ones who lock them, they get sent to AT&T sim free and it's them who lock them, god what planet did you come from.

[anybody]

to bieshwit

hey guess what
I was just on the phone with an AT&T tech assistant and according to him, they get the phones from the manufacturers locked. So what planet did YOU come from buddy??

to everyone

I also think that the "original author" is either a cellular network company like AT&T or someone who works for a network company. They already have the so called "unlocking software" which does nothing but a mathematical calculation. Isn't that right?? So what the hell, they'll just sell the software for thousands of dollars and make more money than what they lose by selling the cell phones cheaper(Even if they don't make more money, thay at least get some of it back). When you think of it, the reason they lock the phones is because they sell them for cheaper to their customers and they want the customers to use those phones with their network only, right? So they'll basically allow the customers to use the phones with other networks for a fee, which is paid to the unlocking people who paid thousands of dollars to buy the unlocking software from the so called "original author" which could easily be the cellular network itself.

I know it seems like a conspiracy theory but come on, don't you see the relation???

to bieshwit
hey btw I'm glad that you shared your opinions with me. I'm always open to new ideas and different perspectives on any subject. But one thing, I would appreciate it if you didn't call me an idiot. Let's try to keep this on a good level and respect each other.
I'm guessing you're a cell phone shop owner and/or one of thos people who do remote unlocking, am I right?

thanks for your time

[Alinus]

for many people unlocking is a buissnes
i too live from it
so i am interested that the software to be sell protected...because so the prices of unlocking phones will not drop, and i will make a living.

different interests, different oppinions


and bieshwit is right - even if the unlock programs are done with information stolen from companies, the programmer still spend a lot of time on them, he invests money in equipment and also knowledge....
is his work and he wnts to be payed for it.

[bieshwit]

Originally posted by anybody

to bieshwit
hey btw I'm glad that you shared your opinions with me. I'm always open to new ideas and different perspectives on any subject. But one thing, I would appreciate it if you didn't call me an idiot. Let's try to keep this on a good level and respect each other.
I'm guessing you're a cell phone shop owner and/or one of thos people who do remote unlocking, am I right?

thanks for your time

I am indeed a shop that invests alot of money into phone unlocking .

I pay for software to support authors, pure and simple, I'm not saying that I wouldnt use free software if it works but we have to accept the fact that people have used there own time and efforts on the software made.

Lets put it another way, If you invented a software that would change a DCT4 IMEI without changing chips etc, would you give it out for free ?????, that would be worth thousands, so you would make serious cash from it.

[mickey blue eye]

Lets put it another way, If you invented a software that would change a DCT4 IMEI without changing chips etc, would you give it out for free ?????, that would be worth thousands, so you would make serious cash from it.

But of course he would, knowledge should be free, but since he's a ***** he wouldn't risk killing many DCT4 fones too find out, testing the sw, ironing out the bugs etc.

As a couple of guy's have mentioned anybody, in the real world people work for money, and I'm sure you do as well, if not feel free too come and work for me for free the rest of your life, I'm always looking for generous guy's like you.

Too answer your question, how do they do it, quite simple, they pay for the privilige of owning the sw, then they eventually sell the sw onto other's etc, and eventually the client end's up paying as well.

The networks receive the fones locked because they demand them too be made that way, the manufacturer makes the fones sim free so they can be sold too anyone. The networks wish for the fones too be locked too recoup their intial discounting of the handset too obtain clients, and they would rather the handset was never unlocked.

Maybe I could pose a simple question too you?

Why do you resent guy's making a simple living from unlocking?

We offer a service in much demand, at huge reductions and much better delivery service than the networks. If everyone else did as well many people would be happier with the world.

If you want too crusade on a subject, surely there are more important things wrong in this world?