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Peter
20-03-2002, 05:23 PM
I have a 8210 that drains its battery. even when its turned off the battery runs down in about 16 hours. The problem is not the battery, since it is a new one.
Have update mcu, ppm and eeprom but didn't solve problem.
Anyone an idea as to what kind of hardware problem this might be?
Kjetil
02-05-2002, 07:58 PM
Hey Peter:)
I've got some of the same problem.
I have to 8210 wich I bought to new batteries for.
One of the phone is using more battery then the other one.
This was normal i thought because there had been some water damage on that phone.
But when i used the menus 20-23 in netmonitor mode. I saw that both phones used equally much power. (3mA in stanby and ca 400 when calling) so i guess there is something else??
I do want to try the energy calibration in wintesla, but I cant get my cracked versions work:(
So check for water damage (around the power ic)
And check the power consumption in menue 23.
buddy
11-05-2002, 03:40 PM
my friend it's a hardware prob,so try to change the PA
K-Meleon
13-05-2002, 09:49 PM
Hi all!!
I have(had) the same problem. Battery was empty after 5h, so I bought a new one (with 1000mAh). This battery was empty after 16h, too. I opened the case of the 8210 and saw that nearly every IC has some kind of salt on every pin.
I bought it used on ebay, so I don't know the "history" of this 8210 and this salt. I guess it was flooded with alcohol, sweat or condensed moisture. The seller said that this mobile phone was 100% working (hahaha) :-((.
I analysed the impedance between the "plus" and "minus" pin of the phone: It was 400 Ohm, that's pretty low, I think. So I extracted the PCB from the case & everything else and flooded it in 94% alcohol, while I was carefully brushing over the PCB and the devices. After the first time I did this, everything was working OK and the problem got better but not good enough, so I flooded it again totally and let the PCB lay in the alcohol about 1,5h. After I dried and assembled it, the vibra and LEDs were on all the time, then I touched the SMD IC (TM23A) and it was really hot. I guess the beeper wasn't dry enough, so that the driver IC was nearly short-circuited. After the last flooding the 8210 had an impedance of about 10 ohm, which is absolutely low, but after the SMD-IC melted it now has over 7kOhm, so I think the first problem is solved, but now I need to replace the LED driver IC, because the LEDs are lighted all the time.
I hope I could help you...perhaps it is the same problem you have!
Measure the impedance between the + and - pin! My phone
drains current (??, sorry don't know the right word), while it is switched off, too (that was before I flooded it with alcohol)!
Best regards,
K-Meleon
Kjetil
14-05-2002, 08:10 AM
Thanks for helping me guys:)
I have actually messured the current the phone is using in different states:
Of state is about 0,12mA witch is wery good i think
on state with no net 2-4 mA variates
on state with net up to 100mA (pulses) not good
So i belive it is a error with the ccont ore battery controller chip?
I vill do some more mesuremet when I got time:)
Maybe I will try to change PA and/ore cean it with alcohol for a longer period of time.
Be vell
Regards
Kjetil
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