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gkagg
24-03-2003, 02:14 PM
Searching for a solution on how to make DCT-3 Nokias support native Arabic SMS char input, I ended up modifying this flash file... I haven't tested it at all because I do not know Arabic. So as a result I want people who speak Arabic to test the file and post their feedback here.


THX in advance ...


PS Ok I found out kinda late that 3310 supports natively Arabic input so I removed the link. The search never stops though... I will try to put Arabic SMS input in phones that does not support it natively like 3350, 82xx and 3210....


Sorry...

Romeo26222
24-03-2003, 02:54 PM
hi
if you don't mind tell me How did you made this because I have a 6110 fone and I want it to write arabic sms messages
thanx and I will try your flash when I found a 3310 fone and I will tell you about the resualts

gkagg
24-03-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Romeo26222
hi
if you don't mind tell me How did you made this because I have a 6110 fone and I want it to write arabic sms messages
thanx and I will try your flash when I found a 3310 fone and I will tell you about the resualts

I added the Arabic alphabet to the corresponding keypresses.. As you know the file is not tested yet and I do not know if it really works.

Here is what I have done...

Key1=.,'?!-&1@\/
Key2=أبتث2
Key3=جحخد3
Key4=ذرز4
Key5=سشص5
Key6=ضطظ6
Key7=عغف7
Key8=قلم8
Key9=نهـوي9


C ya...

Finn
24-03-2003, 04:34 PM
i suppose it works
i ve done this a month ago for 82xx
Power to the greek modyfiers :P :P :P

Al
24-03-2003, 04:47 PM
So can be used this method for adding Russian SMS input to 3210 (or others that doesn't support russian input natively)? Coz when this entries are changed to Russian one you can write in Russian but receiver of this SMS will not see it :(

gkagg
24-03-2003, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Al
So can be used this method for adding Russian SMS input to 3210 (or others that doesn't support russian input natively)? Coz when this entries are changed to Russian one you can write in Russian but receiver of this SMS will not see it :(

Yes!! This method CAN be used to add Russian SMS writing to 3210 but I do not know if it really works. If the receiver has a handset that supports unicode then he will "see" correctly the Cyrillic chars. The only way to find out is R&D!!

C ya...

housin
24-03-2003, 05:40 PM
3310 ALREADY SUPORT WRITE ARABIC V5.13>5.79 SUPORT IT
WE WANNA THAT IN 8210 OR 3210 THATS WILL BE VEREY GOOD JOP OR IT WILL BE GREAT FROM U IF U TELL US HOW TO KNOW THE KEY MAP

Al
24-03-2003, 06:06 PM
@gkagg
Plz read this http://nokiafree.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18613

Finn
24-03-2003, 06:31 PM
If you extract TEXT chunk using PPM manager you will see two files
the txt and a pk file
inside the pk file are the flags..
8800000 is unicode
8000000 is normal
A800000 is compressed unicode
so you change the flag to be unicode..then you change the special characters area :)

gkagg
24-03-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by housin
3310 ALREADY SUPORT WRITE ARABIC V5.13>5.79 SUPORT IT
WE WANNA THAT IN 8210 OR 3210 THATS WILL BE VEREY GOOD JOP OR IT WILL BE GREAT FROM U IF U TELL US HOW TO KNOW THE KEY MAP

Yeap!! I found out a little late... Sorry!!! I will try to do my best for 82xx and 3210 and 3350...

C ya and sorry again.. i didn't know it...

@ Al

THX for the link... I am trying...

Al
24-03-2003, 06:51 PM
@Finn
08000000 - GSM alphabet
8C000000 - for UTF-8
88000000 - Unicode
A8000000 - Compressed unicode

btw 24 bit indicates is it COMM (0) or other(1) subchunk
i.e. for COMM:
00000000 - GSM alphabet
84000000 - UTF-8
80000000 - Unicode
A0000000 - Compressed unicode

and in PPMMaker you can change character set more easily ;)

PS I think you've wrote this not for me ;) And what's a special character area ?

gkagg
24-03-2003, 08:05 PM
I tried to add Arabic input support to a 3350 and I kinda managed it. I sent a message from 3350 written in Arabic chars to a 3310 pack j and the SMS was displayed correctly!!!!

I will try to make a 3210 with Arabic SMS input support and upload it ...

C ya...

Al
24-03-2003, 09:08 PM
with 3210 only problem was that it doesn't support unicode input natively, and 3350 does, so there maybe other things here that needs to be changed.

Finn
24-03-2003, 09:38 PM
thanx Al for correcting me :)

gkagg
24-03-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Al
with 3210 only problem was that it doesn't support unicode input natively, and 3350 does, so there maybe other things here that needs to be changed.

Hey Al I am surprized!!! Is there anything that you do not know??;) ;) This is a fact indeed but I wonder what the obstacle is... Is it in the MCU? Maybe... maybe not...
Anyway... Does 8210 support unicode input natively?

C ya...

PS as for the flags there is one more (0x8c0000000) which I think is MBCS (Multi Byte Character Set) correct me if I am wrong...

Al
24-03-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by gkagg


Hey Al I am surprized!!! Is there anything that you do not know??;) ;) This is a fact indeed but I wonder what the obstacle is... Is it in the MCU? Maybe... maybe not...
Anyway... Does 8210 support unicode input natively?

C ya...
Yup, thereis a lot of anything that I don't know ;) About 8210 - sorry, don't know (or can't remember ;))


SORRY, my mistake of course 0x8C000000 - it's UTF-8, sorry again, that's coz my really bad memory :), plz forgive me :), I've corrected flags above

gkagg
24-03-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Al
with 3210 only problem was that it doesn't support unicode input natively, and 3350 does, so there maybe other things here that needs to be changed.

Now that I recall it , Greek lang in 3210 is unicode right?. However, using this phone (3210) we could input Greek chars by writing SMS and send them correctly, provided that the receiver's phone supported Greek character set... Can't it be done with either Russian or Arabic or any other Unicode lang as well??

If I am not mistaken, 3210 uses 8 bits per character right? So for the chars to be displayed correctly the receiver's phone must support the same alphabet as the sender... So why the chars are not displayed correctly if someone changes the LPCS end edits the keypresses?

Al
24-03-2003, 10:34 PM
Russian in 3210 also Unicode (16bits per char), but you can't enter Unicode characters (at last for Russian).
So you could write in Greek on 3210 ?
Sorry, I don't have 3210 here to test :(

gkagg
24-03-2003, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Al
Russian in 3210 also Unicode (16bits per char), but you can't enter Unicode characters (at last for Russian).
So you could write in Greek on 3210 ?
Sorry, I don't have 3210 here to test :(

Yes my mistake. Unicode is 16bits per char...:confused:

As for the SMS input in 3210 yes we could write SMS natively using our alphabet but 3210 had never Greek T9 dictionary. Sometime (maybe tomorrow) I will upload a 3210 file with either Russian or Arabic SMS input so as to be tested just to see in what level we are.. Do you agree? I hope yes.! ;)

C ya...

housin
25-03-2003, 12:21 AM
@gkagg
i am waiting to test the 3210 or 8210 flash file :D
tnx u alot for ur care its would be wonderfull from u
:) for any help u can mail me at [email protected]

gkagg
25-03-2003, 06:06 AM
Hi to all,

I have uploaded 3210 flash file to be tested for correct Arabic SMS input. Your help would be very much appreciated!!!

I will try to modify 8210 as well, but for now let's test 3210...


DOWNLOAD 3210 FLASH HERE (http://www.geocities.com/gkagg78/3210_B_ARAB.rar.zip)

Just right click and save target as...Delete *.zip extension and decompress with winrar...


C ya...

gkagg
25-03-2003, 07:49 PM
Does anyone know how to convert a TEXT CHUNK from 08000000 (GSM) to 88000000 (Unicode) and vice versa, but the text strings can remain untouched so the could be displayed properly either on the phone or in an editing proggy like INOCULATE or PPMmaker?

Al
25-03-2003, 08:01 PM
@gkagg
TEXT CHUNK from 08000000 (GSM) to 88000000 (Unicode) and vice versa

PPMMaker can do this easily ;) If you don't know how just let me know =) It works 100%, any conversions:
UTF-8 <> Unicode
GSM <> Unicode
UTF-8 <> GSM

gkagg
25-03-2003, 08:28 PM
Could you tell me how to do it please?:rolleyes: :confused:


It's OK!! I found it.. It was easy... I was a little confused sorry
!!!:confused: :confused: :)

Al
25-03-2003, 08:38 PM
@gkagg
Sure =)
In PPMMakers TEXT editor choose in droplist character set you want then press Ok , that's all =) I've implemented this feature in v1.05 of PPMMaker, plz read whatsnew.txt from PPMMaker package =)

gkagg
25-03-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Al
@gkagg
Sure =)
In PPMMakers TEXT editor choose in droplist character set you want then press Ok , that's all =) I've implemented this feature in v1.05 of PPMMaker, plz read whatsnew.txt from PPMMaker package =)

YEAP!!! Thanx and sorry!!:D :D It really works!!! GREAT!!

Al
25-03-2003, 08:51 PM
You're welcome =)

gkagg
25-03-2003, 09:44 PM
I changed the languages flag from GSM to unicode with PPM Maker as you said and all went ok. However when I want to reconvert thist Lang to GSM alphabet I receive the following error!

"No translation for unicode symbol '2026' in LPCS
Use UTF-8 or unicode character set"

Any idea?

Al
25-03-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by gkagg
I changed the languages flag from GSM to unicode with PPM Maker as you said and all went ok. However when I want to reconvert thist Lang to GSM alphabet I receive the following error!

"No translation for unicode symbol '2026' in LPCS
Use UTF-8 or unicode character set"

Any idea?
hehehe, I think all is in this message =)
What for I've made LPCS editor??? in PPMMaker ???
i.e. symbols with E000 in unicode are unused ;)

gkagg
25-03-2003, 09:57 PM
OK !!:D;)

housin
25-03-2003, 09:58 PM
tnx i will test it

Romeo26222
26-03-2003, 04:34 AM
please AL and gkagg what is the chunks I sould edit in ppm maker to make my fone writes in arabic?please explain step by step
thanx

gkagg
26-03-2003, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by Romeo26222
please AL and gkagg what is the chunks I sould edit in ppm maker to make my fone writes in arabic?please explain step by step
thanx

Apart from editing the keypress entries into TEXT CHUNK you must edit LPCS chunk so as to contain the Arabic chars...
At least that's what I hove done...

C ya...

gkagg
26-03-2003, 11:08 AM
Does anyone know which other Nokia DCT-3 has the same keymap with 82xx except for 62xx series? Is there any possibility to convert keymaps (i.e 33xx or 2100 to 82xx)?

the_frightener
26-03-2003, 12:42 PM
some 1 plz tell me ... is there anyway that when i insert a ringtone in mobile through cable-logomanager ...nobody can see the original coding of the tone in the composer option ?

thanx in adv

housin
27-03-2003, 04:33 AM
@gkagg
i tested it whene i type i see the english and whene i type i see a b c not ا ب ت so i think its not working :( :( :( .tnx

TornadoHeart
27-03-2003, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by gkagg
Does anyone know which other Nokia DCT-3 has the same keymap with 82xx except for 62xx series? Is there any possibility to convert keymaps (i.e 33xx or 2100 to 82xx)?

I think 8250 is the same and it has arabic in G pack.....

gkagg
27-03-2003, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by housin
@gkagg
i tested it whene i type i see the english and whene i type i see a b c not ا ب ت so i think its not working :( :( :( .tnx

What a pity... I will check it out and see what is wrong and If I find anything I will fix it repost the file...

@TornadoHeart.

I know that 825 has the same keymap with 8210...;) However there is no PPM pack with Arabic because this phone is for Asia PACific only...

C ya...

Finn
27-03-2003, 12:42 PM
@gkagg
check www.geocities.com/finn2k1
for 8250 PPM G with arabic and russian
credits to the maker :)

gkagg
27-03-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Finn
@gkagg
check www.geocities.com/finn2k1
for 8250 PPM G with arabic and russian
credits to the maker :)

Finn thanx for the file but this is a custom flash and contains neither native Arabic SMS writing nor Arabic T9.

Thanx though....

Finn
27-03-2003, 01:21 PM
yeah i know that it is a custom flash..
because you said that there is no support for arabic language i wrote about the file
i think AboAli made the file..i m not sure

AS i told you..i ve made a file for 8210 arabic sms writing..AboAli has finished 95% for arabic t9..
i wont release anything..
you cant imagine how many mails i received about sending flash with arabic and get paid..
i m waiting for someone to make it and give..
i don want to be involved into something like this

newcasper
11-04-2003, 06:30 AM
still did not know where is Hellas? :D

gkagg
11-04-2003, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by newcasper
still did not know where is Hellas? :D

Hellas is yet another name for Greece...:)

gardz
11-04-2003, 08:40 AM
can't download ur 6150 mod

gardz
11-04-2003, 09:57 AM
bad zip file 0n 8250 8250 MoD Flash File pack H v. 6.00 (MCU+PPM)

gkagg
11-04-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by gardz
bad zip file 0n 8250 8250 MoD Flash File pack H v. 6.00 (MCU+PPM)

Delete the *.zip extension and decompress with winrar!

Cheers

gardz
11-04-2003, 02:02 PM
pls send me the ldb chunk arabic in 8250 or the 8250 flash file pls don't create winzip or winrar [email protected] thank you.

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gkagg
11-04-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by gardz
pls send me the ldb chunk arabic in 8250 or the 8250 flash file pls don't create winzip or winrar [email protected] thank you.

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My 8250 flash does not contain an Arabic T9... As for the 8250 flash with Arabic download it from my site...

C ya...

gardz
11-04-2003, 02:42 PM
can't extract crc error can u upload here in winzip.Thank u

gkagg
11-04-2003, 08:16 PM
The file you requested is uploaded at www.geocities.com/gkagg78/misc in zip format espacially for you...

C 'ya...

PS The above link is not active any more...

gardz
11-04-2003, 10:12 PM
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