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softis
19-04-2003, 08:50 PM
I have heard that it's posible to trace a phone by imei and what nummber on the simcard that's in use in the phone???

Scotty1973
19-04-2003, 09:34 PM
Yep, both right...

don't know about norway, but in austria only police or a judge can decide whether or not to trace a mobile...

regards Scotty :)

softis
19-04-2003, 10:21 PM
I know that bat a frend of mine sad that at the nokia store they enterd the imei in the pc.... and then they can se the phone nummer that was used at the time he ask't for it

I want that software... anybody know if this software is for download anywere????

Shelmo
20-04-2003, 01:15 PM
you need some reception equipment aswell i would have thought, not sure bout any software ill have look round,

Topdogkaine
27-04-2003, 12:21 AM
I Know in the UK that phones reported stolen arn't always blacklisted. The authorities greylist them as well.

The reason they do this is so that they can see who's been called from the mobile number and also to see which cell the phone is registered to at any time. In the country a cell of 5miles would be reasonable. But in towns cells might only be the size of a street or smaller.

The authorities will then use the infomation from the greylisted phone against you to try and get a conviction.

This a near enough word to word quote from a tv prog i watched.

Apparently if u were a internation terrorist, drug dealler etc certain organisations could send a missile at you to within 20feet from your mobile.

Dunno how much truth there is in this though.

Topdogkaine

obeids
03-05-2003, 09:26 AM
Guys i had the software from one operator network.
it was designed for tracing cellphones for the network companybut one of the guys there copied it of the computer he was working with. The only prob is my hard disk partition got deleted but i did not use that hard drive. i left it cause i got all that kind of software. So if u guys can get me software that can recover data from the drive i will give u guys the software for free!!!!

DavieB
03-05-2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Shelmo
you need some reception equipment aswell i would have thought, not sure bout any software ill have look round,

Na m8, would make sense if it was the old analogue systems but the digital gsm systems use asymetric encryption- extremely difficult to crack, if not impossible- on the signals being transmitted so if you were to capture them with a scanner they'd be of no use to you- even the headers including the imei and mobile number, etc, are encrypted so you wouldn't even know who's signal your capturing..

Besides, timeslicing/multiplexing of the signals is used so you'd not be able to discern one mobile signal from the group using the same channel (AFAIK!)

@Topdogkaine
100% true ;) Heard this from many sources and seen it in action when I was having prank calls from someone at the bottom of england (I live in glasgow, scotland- so kicking their ass would cost too much.. lol)

Best Regards,
David C. Barker

softis
03-05-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by obeids
Guys i had the software from one operator network.
it was designed for tracing cellphones for the network companybut one of the guys there copied it of the computer he was working with. The only prob is my hard disk partition got deleted but i did not use that hard drive. i left it cause i got all that kind of software. So if u guys can get me software that can recover data from the drive i will give u guys the software for free!!!!

hi

you can go to http://www.filemirrors.com

and scertch for recover and then use contains and then press enter and it vil find the software u need..... mail me when u gat it.... [email protected]

and I know that this is posible I'v seen it at the nikoa store in my country... :)

cyclo
04-05-2003, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Scotty1973
Yep, both right...

don't know about norway, but in austria only police or a judge can decide whether or not to trace a mobile...

regards Scotty :)

First of all it's possible to trace a cellphone in the way you describe, but it can only be done by an operator. In otherwords you have to gain access to the cellphone network from the inside.

Anyhow. In Norway I don't even think the police can have the network providers trace a cellphone without first getting a court order permitting it.

GeeZuZz
04-05-2003, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by cyclo
Anyhow. In Norway I don't even think the police can have the network providers trace a cellphone without first getting a court order permitting it.

That is correct. Not any court situation either - only very serious cases.

kevinn13
04-05-2003, 03:09 AM
I have worked with one2one and I can confirm they can find your mobile within 15 feet of where it is I can confirm this 100% as I have seen it in action.

As for the software I think it maybe sometime before we get our mitts on it. Its for internal use only.

Theres to many mobiles going missing for them even to start trying to use this on a day to day business and the police cant be bothered either. To time consumiing.

obeids
04-05-2003, 08:22 AM
The software i got was made for a network provider. I will not disclose the name. But it said when u runned it: THIS SOFTWARE IS ONLY FOR INTERNAL USE BY ??????????. And the normal license laws on all progs. anyway i ran it but it wanted some numbers to be filled in which i did not know what numbers to put in there. But as soon as i recover it i will post it here for u guys.
Hope u guys can figure a way to use it.

Thanks for helping me.
Hope i can recover my disk..


P.S. the stuff that messed my partition up was PARTITION MAgic.:)

DavieB
04-05-2003, 09:41 AM
I cant remember the name of it but theres a book (with a title such as Telecommunications Essentials) written by a female Dr. (who's name I sadly can't remember) on sale in the uk and many other countries:

If gives pictures of the inside of base station, details on how ALL the equipment works, but most relevant here- screenshots of network control software! I can't remember the name of the software but they say it was made by one of the main hardware manufacturers (so I assume it is WIDELY used)!

[I spent half the day reading the book in borders as Im just a student and cant afford to shell out £35 on a book right now.. lol]

Also- obeids m8, dont try to recover it- it'l be useless!
The software undoubtedly relies on a direct connection to the provider's equipment:
It would be a severe security risk to allow acces via tcp/ip across the net and an equal risk to allow dial-in access!

Sorry to shatter the dream but unless your employed by an operator you'll never see this software fully functioning (you might get a copy but it'll be of no use)..

Besides- Im certain they'll log all use for security auditing purposes so not even an employee could misuse it! Maybe an engineer with an excuse that its needed for testing and signal calibration but even that might be a bit thin as they'd use a test station and test sim!

Best Regards All,
David C. Barker