cjard
19-05-2003, 11:22 AM
3310 5.87.. trying to get my head round all the stupid new bugs in the dictionary
when typing a word, if it is not found, i normally break the word up into chunks the phone can spell.
e.g. nokiafree, i write NOKIA, then press UP, then write FREE, then press space.
only now, the underline doesnt disappear when i press up, and pressing up again moves to the start of a message.
you can get the underline to disappear SOMETIMES, if you cycle through every option, past Spell? and back to the original guess, you can now press up and it might disappear.. but how fkn annoying is that?
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using insert word makes the cursor jump to the end of the message after inserting (try it... in the middle of amessage, insert a word, and you find yourself at the end of the message)
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the dictionary seems to remember capitalisation now. i normally finish a message with Mx or xM.. i taught the phone "Mx" cos it isnt as standard.. now when i write "my" and press * it becomes "Mx" and it should say "mx".. its not too bad for that example, but if i teach it a word that is used in the middle of a message (i taught it "Tango"), now i write "tamin", press * becomes "Tango"
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when writing words with punctuation in like "monkey-wrench" if i press back, whole thing is underlined.. cursor skips back over whole thing.. pressing up to skip forward however, skips "monkey", then "-" then "wrench".
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when phone cant go any further and asks to spell a word (e.g. write BOLLOCKS.. phone gets to "collo" then says Spell? when u press for the C (in bollocks).
now, keypad is locked out.. that "collo" .. try and write "colloquial" - its a valid english word, meaning 'slang' or 'commonly used' .. but while phone is asking Spell? you can hammer Q all you want and it does nothing
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teach it a word like Carnforth (a place in england). now wstart typing it.. carnfor...
and you will notice the phone has filled in the TH for you.. CARNFOR is underlined, TH is not and is ahead of the cursor. pressing up allows you to keep the auto completed word. pressing space removes the TH again leaving just CARNFO in the display. the counter decreses properly, jumping from e.g. 453, to 450 when you press R, (cos RTH pops up on screen 453 -> 450 )
now auto-complete would be cool as funk, but it doesnt do it all the time, or even at obvious times. it only seems to autocomplet some words that you teach it, never anything already in the dictionary.
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insert a long number like 1234567890 with the "insert number" feature.. now run your cursor back and forward from start to end. you will see that the first number ( 1 ) suddenly gets an underline.. then later, after another pass, so will the second, and later the third etc...
wtf is this phone doing?
now the very gay thing...
make one of those numbers underlined, e.g. the number 3. press *, and the phone will cycle through EVERYTHING youve ever taught it, that begins with D E or F, i underlined a number 4, then * several times.. i got:
"irishman"
"girlie"
"iwas"
"incase"
"It's"
"it's"
"it..."
"i've"
"had;o"
"instead!oz"
"instead!Mx"
wtf bullshit is this phone storing? no wonder it forgets all the stuff i teach it if it is storing bullshit like that!
i tried getting it to auto-complete irishman and it works.. even if i just type I (letter eye) and press *, i get everything ive ever typed meself on I.
im thinking this is a feature.. cos i can get it to do it reliably now, even tho the dictionary must contain "experienced" i have somehow taught it that too.. pressing [3] then several times, cycles thru em all
note though that if you go to menu option MATCHES to show all the matches for what u typed.. the longer words arent in there. I typed E, then went to matches, and got six matches for E:
D
F
3
E
D
E
- yeah, i have no idea why there are repeated ones unless D F 3 and E are in the main dictionary, and the other D and E are in the user dictionary... again.. no wonder it forgets word if it is storing bullshit like that!
you can also enter single numbers like this. pressing 2 cycles thru A C B 2 ... whereas on old softwares you couldnt get numbers by pressing *, had to hold the key down instead
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set the cursor to the middle of the big number u typed, somewhere in the region of single numbers that are underlining. now leave the phone idle for a few mintues... the cursor will disappear. thats normal. now press DOWN and the cursor returns but it has now selected ALL the numbers up to that point.. pressing * does some very gay things...
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i think its a feature,m but to switch the dictionary on and off with the # key you now gotta double click it
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can anyone else find any more bugs and/or recommend a more stable dictionary, cos the first bug really pisses me off (pressing up doesnt remove the underline)
matt
when typing a word, if it is not found, i normally break the word up into chunks the phone can spell.
e.g. nokiafree, i write NOKIA, then press UP, then write FREE, then press space.
only now, the underline doesnt disappear when i press up, and pressing up again moves to the start of a message.
you can get the underline to disappear SOMETIMES, if you cycle through every option, past Spell? and back to the original guess, you can now press up and it might disappear.. but how fkn annoying is that?
-
using insert word makes the cursor jump to the end of the message after inserting (try it... in the middle of amessage, insert a word, and you find yourself at the end of the message)
-
the dictionary seems to remember capitalisation now. i normally finish a message with Mx or xM.. i taught the phone "Mx" cos it isnt as standard.. now when i write "my" and press * it becomes "Mx" and it should say "mx".. its not too bad for that example, but if i teach it a word that is used in the middle of a message (i taught it "Tango"), now i write "tamin", press * becomes "Tango"
-
when writing words with punctuation in like "monkey-wrench" if i press back, whole thing is underlined.. cursor skips back over whole thing.. pressing up to skip forward however, skips "monkey", then "-" then "wrench".
-
when phone cant go any further and asks to spell a word (e.g. write BOLLOCKS.. phone gets to "collo" then says Spell? when u press for the C (in bollocks).
now, keypad is locked out.. that "collo" .. try and write "colloquial" - its a valid english word, meaning 'slang' or 'commonly used' .. but while phone is asking Spell? you can hammer Q all you want and it does nothing
-
teach it a word like Carnforth (a place in england). now wstart typing it.. carnfor...
and you will notice the phone has filled in the TH for you.. CARNFOR is underlined, TH is not and is ahead of the cursor. pressing up allows you to keep the auto completed word. pressing space removes the TH again leaving just CARNFO in the display. the counter decreses properly, jumping from e.g. 453, to 450 when you press R, (cos RTH pops up on screen 453 -> 450 )
now auto-complete would be cool as funk, but it doesnt do it all the time, or even at obvious times. it only seems to autocomplet some words that you teach it, never anything already in the dictionary.
-
insert a long number like 1234567890 with the "insert number" feature.. now run your cursor back and forward from start to end. you will see that the first number ( 1 ) suddenly gets an underline.. then later, after another pass, so will the second, and later the third etc...
wtf is this phone doing?
now the very gay thing...
make one of those numbers underlined, e.g. the number 3. press *, and the phone will cycle through EVERYTHING youve ever taught it, that begins with D E or F, i underlined a number 4, then * several times.. i got:
"irishman"
"girlie"
"iwas"
"incase"
"It's"
"it's"
"it..."
"i've"
"had;o"
"instead!oz"
"instead!Mx"
wtf bullshit is this phone storing? no wonder it forgets all the stuff i teach it if it is storing bullshit like that!
i tried getting it to auto-complete irishman and it works.. even if i just type I (letter eye) and press *, i get everything ive ever typed meself on I.
im thinking this is a feature.. cos i can get it to do it reliably now, even tho the dictionary must contain "experienced" i have somehow taught it that too.. pressing [3] then several times, cycles thru em all
note though that if you go to menu option MATCHES to show all the matches for what u typed.. the longer words arent in there. I typed E, then went to matches, and got six matches for E:
D
F
3
E
D
E
- yeah, i have no idea why there are repeated ones unless D F 3 and E are in the main dictionary, and the other D and E are in the user dictionary... again.. no wonder it forgets word if it is storing bullshit like that!
you can also enter single numbers like this. pressing 2 cycles thru A C B 2 ... whereas on old softwares you couldnt get numbers by pressing *, had to hold the key down instead
-
set the cursor to the middle of the big number u typed, somewhere in the region of single numbers that are underlining. now leave the phone idle for a few mintues... the cursor will disappear. thats normal. now press DOWN and the cursor returns but it has now selected ALL the numbers up to that point.. pressing * does some very gay things...
-
i think its a feature,m but to switch the dictionary on and off with the # key you now gotta double click it
===
can anyone else find any more bugs and/or recommend a more stable dictionary, cos the first bug really pisses me off (pressing up doesnt remove the underline)
matt