3330 Grrrr..... I've been had

[Nigey]

Hi. Here goes.....

Bought 3330 at auction to replace my dead one (driven over). Described as barred, I was gonna use the IMEI from the dead phone.

It powered up OK, but had picture message displayed after boot up "You are the weakest link....Goodbye!" with piccy of Anne Robinson. (Yes I can hear you laughing from here!)

Phone wouldn't read with bus proggys like Rolis 479/Knok95.

Foolishly didn't take a backup of existing flash. (Wish I had).

Rolis 4.79 Flashed with Wintesla files v4.50, ppm C, flashed ok. Then flashed with virgin eeprom downloaded from here (a/d 005F0000). Flashed OK.

Now won't switch on but will still accept flashes.

Then tried full flash taken from wife's 3330. Flashes OK but wont switch on, so I can't update FAID.

How the hell did they pull this off or have I done something silly?? Your input would be very appreciated.

:mad: !!HELP!!:mad:

[Nokiacrazi]

If u r in UK IMEI changing is ILLEGAL

[slikmik]

Originally posted by Nokiacrazi
If u r in UK IMEI changing is ILLEGAL

he asked for help not a simple remark... :rolleyes:

First off i and some others did a little experiment in imei changing and to be honest the chances of getting caught are minute... plus you were going to use your OLD imei so in essence you are simply "reviving" your dead fone :)

Enough said...

Now to flash basically i recken u may be using WINTESLA flashes in there WINTESLA format - use wintesla2dejan converter i shall attach :p and convert them and flash with rolis 4.77 or 4.78 and once you have flashed the mcu and ppm flash a VIRGIN eeprom

If all goes well you shall have a bootable fone :)

Dont give up yet matey ;)

Always ways round it

Mike :cool:

[bobl]

@Nigey

How much did you pay for a 'barred' phone :)?

And yes, don't give up, you'll get to California some day :)

@slikmik

Cheers for w2d, lost that proggy and couldn't be bothered to find it again :D

Gluck

Bob

[Nigey]

Bobl, £16 when "converted" into UK currency ;)

Slikmik. I used yer W2D, followed by virgin with the same results as previous, but I was under the impression that Rolis read Wintesla files str8 in n e way.

I've never killed a phone, and I've done a few, but this is getting to me. Think I might roll it up into a HUGE DOOBIE AND SMOKE IT. Guess that's illegal in the UK as well??:p

Any other suggestions?:confused:

[liteFun]

i had same problem with my 5510 when flashed first time.
don't really remember how i put it back alive again...
it accepted flashes, but didn't boot :)
i flashed every flash files i had for 5510 with no success.

but, i have only one hint: try, try and try.
i hope you will get phone saying CONTACT SERVICE.
that's good sign, after i had it, i read flash from phone and fixed checksums.

[bobl]

If you simply can't do it, go to a service centre and see how much they charge?

But as liteFun suggested, TRY TRY TRY!

Gluck

Bob

[Nigey]

OK.

Having exhausted all other avenues, I decided to send a 3310 flash to it. Guess what, it fired up str8 away. All menus running etc. That's the good bit.

The bad bit is that there is no signal. I have enabled netmonitor and it tells me it is on ch67, rx signal level is 0 and the phone is in no service power save.

I have checked the terminals/contacts for clean/spring all seems ok. Is there another test I can to to identify a hardware fault?

Also are there any features on the pcb to identify whether it really is a 10 or a 30?

[bobl]

You did remember to update the FAID this time right? :D

I also though the 3330 couldn't have it's FAID set correctly?

How about reuploading the flash with deadfaid (Use Chkiller to kill the FAID check on the FLS file)

(P.S. on my 3410 there is no chk67 on Netmonitor :( )

Gluck

Bob

[nkresource]

are you sure you didnt buy a 3310 instead?

did you get signal before?, try reflow, reset full UI settings, flash virgin eeprom update with a known working IEMI,

i got this prob at the mo with a 3310 of mine, iv'e tried everthing, reflow, flash, water damage repair, etc... still no signal...

neway good luck man.:)

[chunkhead]

Hang on a minute... what the hell? You flashed a 3310 file to it and it booted!? The 3330 is Flashed from 0200000 to 0600000! Which is two 3310 files (That's how to get it to run 3310) So:

1) You bought a 3310

2) You bought a 3330, but were only flashing to 0400000! Check the imei sticker on the back of the phone!!!;)

[Nigey]

@chunkhead @nkresource

Tell me about it. I bought what was described as 3330 blocked, so I didn't even bother loading a SIM card into it. When it arrived the label had been removed, so I treated it as a 3330. The strange thing is unless it is a 3310 from that Nokia stock with the bigger memory, the act of flashing the 3330 MCU & PPM should have failed becuase it would have run out of memory, right??

Unfortunately when flashing, Rolis doesn't report the memory size on this phone, so I am none the wiser.

@bobl thanks fr suggestion, but FAID update is second nature.

The saga continues....

[jeep]

Originally posted by Nigey
Also are there any features on the pcb to identify whether it really is a 10 or a 30?

You can look at the flash memory size...
28W160 = 3310
28W320 = 3330 (or 3310 with free extra memory!)

AFAIK, the H/W is exactly the same for both phones, just the memory size differs.

[rvalle]

Originally posted by liteFun
i had same problem with my 5510 when flashed first time.
don't really remember how i put it back alive again...
it accepted flashes, but didn't boot :)
i flashed every flash files i had for 5510 with no success.

but, i have only one hint: try, try and try.
i hope you will get phone saying CONTACT SERVICE.
that's good sign, after i had it, i read flash from phone and fixed checksums.

I have a 3330 with a similar problem, can only get to CONTACT SERVICE. :(
What proggie did you use to fix the checksums?

Thanks,
rvalle

[Nigey]

@ rvalle

I have been using Rolis 4.79, as it is both a capable DCT-3 flasher and also does most of what I need from bus software.

[mexusbg]

Hey JEEP, the 3310's hardware isn't the same as 3330's.
How about WAP - it's hardware!!!
Come on, you are talking shit.
3310 cannot be flashed with 3330 flash file.
It must be 3310 with extra space (thats downgraded 3330).

About changing IMEI in UK:
change the IMEI as many times as you won,
the phone nas no sticker. No one can tell you a thing (they cannot detect you when you are changing it).
I live in Bulgaria, but i know.

Have fun DUDEs.
Try 100% tested 3330 flash (MCU+PPM+EEPROM and if you want PMM too). Is it doesn't work it is a 3310.
Convert 3310 to 3315.

[cprafferty]

@mexusbg

WAP is software its just a software modem.

[mexusbg]

It's software and hardware. Im sure. What does NokDoc and the others think about WAP. Is it software or hardware or is it both.

[Nokiatrasher]

I ve had almost the same xperience - bought a 3330 on Ebay, (dead) couldn't revive it - after reading this I gave it a try with 3310 software and - voila - it workz.
Two choices: I either bought a 3310 in a 3330 shell (It says NHM-6NX MODEL 3330 on the sticker) or 3310 software runs on 3330, too ...
Is there a way of checking which hardware is actually in the shell?
I dont want a 3310 it I can have a 3330 :-)

Greetinx NT

[Nokiacrazi]

Originally posted by Nokiatrasher
I ve had almost the same xperience - bought a 3330 on Ebay, (dead) couldn't revive it - after reading this I gave it a try with 3310 software and - voila - it workz.
Two choices: I either bought a 3310 in a 3330 shell (It says NHM-6NX MODEL 3330 on the sticker) or 3310 software runs on 3330, too ...
Is there a way of checking which hardware is actually in the shell?
I dont want a 3310 it I can have a 3330 :-)

Greetinx NT

Use Rolis to read the flash and it should show a Phone ID part, look here and see how many mbs it has there. If it says 16mb you have a 3310 if however it says 32mb you have a 3330! :D

[Nokiatrasher]

THIS is really what gets me: ROLIS displays no Hardware ID or Software version at all - only the Flash ID.
When I put he 3310 software on, then it says of course 3310 with 16 MB, because that's what the flash size is ....

Greetinx, NT

[Nigey]

@mexusbg

It has to be software because the boards for 3310/30 are identical , but for a few extra button pads on later 3330's, and a different flash chip.

@Nokiatrasher having answered my own question, I will answer yours. Look on the board at the flash chip, if it says F1603BTA or similar (the "16" being the key) then it is a 3310.

If the flash chip has any other ID on it incorporating "32, 032, 320 etc" in the number, then irrespective of whether it started life as a 3310 or not, it can be flashed with 3330 F/W and will operate as a full 3330. (There are other posts about this 2 do with shortage of memory chips).

Hope this helps.

ps Just wanted to give my VOTE OF THANKS to all mods and contributers to this forum, it really is the best. I have learnt much and hope to be able to give back in return.