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cece
17-05-2002, 09:40 PM
Hi,

Have someone done it .
I want to know more about it.
Are there site's about it?

Cece

man0n
17-05-2002, 11:28 PM
it's possbile to clone simcards, you will need a phoenix programmer to read Ki and IMSI and later is possible to enter directly in the mobile phone keyboard.

The easiest way to do it is using SIM-MASTER and SIMCARD8

http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-MASTER

http://ucables.com/ref/SIMCARD8

more info at http://simemu.com

sonicdeejay
18-05-2002, 04:54 AM
CLONE SIM CARD MEAN...2 sim card with same number reite??what if they try register to the networks in two different hp???:) pls advice

sonicdeejay
23-05-2002, 05:16 AM
i heard readin Ki from simcard can take up to 3 days?? how long does it take if i use phoenix programmer ..:D

man0n
23-05-2002, 04:53 PM
When you clone a simcard and use two at same time. If receive a call you will receive it at the mobile phone that you used by last time, but maybe sometimes are ramdomly.

Reading Ki will take between 4 and 9 hours, maybe less if you use phonenix prorgammer with high oscilation frecuency.

:: sunny ::
23-05-2002, 05:38 PM
can any body tell me wot is "KI" or "KI codes" and "IMSI".. ?

i dont know any thing about this sim cloning ..

BR:
haf

Mulder3
23-05-2002, 11:31 PM
however, trying to crack KI can f*ck SIM cards, special Pre-Paids.

sonicdeejay
24-05-2002, 05:53 AM
ask manOn:D he is expert,,


So,,in ored to clone sim card,,we need to get original sim to us rite??beocz those sim card that I intened to clon is in oversea..:)

green gerbil
25-05-2002, 06:09 PM
you have to have access to the cards and a fast computer for a 24 hour period at least. then you can buy a smartcard programmer and put the ki/IMSI codes into a properly programmed silvercard or goldcard.

Iccang
27-05-2002, 02:22 AM
hi guys..

Check this site: http://gsmzone.a4.pl/sklepen/ , in programmer session...

there is a hardware can cloning 8 in 1 simcard..

Rgrds,
Iccang
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genehack
27-05-2002, 04:47 PM
hey,
hi guys! im doing with that! but as of now ive already finish my sim card reader/writer hardware. for tomorrow i'll test it if its work. i'll back for what happens in my work.


regards to all!!!!

more power!!!
:D

genehack
27-05-2002, 04:59 PM
hey,
hi guys! im doing with that! but as of now ive already finish my sim card reader/writer hardware. for tomorrow i'll test it if its work. i'll back for what happens in my work.


regards to all!!!!

more power!!!
:D

man0n
27-05-2002, 07:52 PM
IMSI is the IMSI value to store in position N. It's a number with a length of 18 decimal digits, beeing the first two always "08". Example: 081234567890123456

KI is the valude of the KI to be stored in position N. It's an hex number (0-9 and A-F caps) with 32 digits length. Example: 0123456789ABCDEF0123456789ABCDEF

:: sunny ::
27-05-2002, 08:25 PM
@ man0n :
wot is the purpose of IMSI and KI ?
wot they do ?


regards :
haf

sonicdeejay
28-05-2002, 02:47 AM
dear manOn,,I'm interestedin the sim card cloner (http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-MASTER),,how long does the reader
take to read original IMSI & KI,???? It will be a turn-off if the reader take long time such as 4 hr to 3days..
:confused: thanks ...keep me inform..

green gerbil
28-05-2002, 03:41 AM
How long it takes depends on your computer. Mine took less than a day on an athlon xp1700. And dont get that sim reader. Go on ebay and search for something like this, you can get it cheaper than the ucables reader and it works the same.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1355353599

wfc
28-05-2002, 04:46 AM
so will any simcard reader/writer work when doing this?
or do you need a special type

like flash cable and data cable
both can be considered data cables
but they do different things
:)

green gerbil
28-05-2002, 10:23 PM
Any smartmouse/phoenix based smart card terminal will work to get the authentication codes and rewrite the codes on a premade pic-card sim (the simcard8 or whateverthefuck ucables is selling). To actually make a sim you need a pic-card/goldcard/silvercard programmer and of course some blank cards.

man0n
29-05-2002, 09:10 AM
Read IMSI is inmediate, but to read Ki will depends on clock that you use with yout phoenix interface, it will takes between 4 -12 hours with a crystal of 3.57 Mhz, but if you use higher crystal oscillation frecuency it will be more fast, you can not use any crystal frecuency you must be sure that use compatible with simscan from dejan as it appear at the program table.

sonicdeejay
29-05-2002, 10:35 AM
:) wher can I get the schmetic to make sim card read/write???

spida_singh
29-05-2002, 11:12 AM
hi,4 a nice step by step guide,chek this site out

http://users.anytimenow.com/sid67b/GSMSIM2.htm

Spida!:D

imoi
02-06-2002, 07:28 AM
can i erase the content of my pre-paid sim card?

brakk_
21-06-2002, 12:03 AM
i cloned mine (pre-payed french SFR 'La carte') without any problem*
3h20 to find Ki/IMSI on P2 laptop (seem faster than other SIM)
btw... i heard most people saying it can destroy original card
so just try if u have 'kamikaze' spirit ;P

* just one problem : i never used my pin code (my old Sagem never asking for it) and forgot it..
no way to find winlock dongle or method to bypass DESkey checking * help *

Thanks

sonicdeejay
21-06-2002, 04:58 AM
brak__
How long do it take to read ur sim Ki in ur laptop??...:)

Iccang
21-06-2002, 09:23 AM
Hi guys..

I was done read my two card (satelindo and telkomsel) by sim master and using simme software.
I get my Telkomsel's IMSI and Ki with 4 hours 30 minutes.
My Satelindo is 3 hours 25 Minutes.

but, with that IMSI and KI, I cannot get network with my simcard8.

@man0n: Can you tell me, what's wrong with my experience? or maybe the simcard8 is not working properly?

I get the simcard8 at ucables.com

Thx before..

BR, Iccang
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Iccang
24-06-2002, 03:53 AM
Hi all..

I was succesfully to clone my card...
Right know, my simcard8 is fill on 2 card. I was happy... :)
Thanx for mr. Daniel Jabif (Simemu)

Regards,
Iccang
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brakk_
25-06-2002, 01:37 AM
for Ki/IMSI key it took :
3h20 for a pre-ayed french card (but she doesn't work, impossible getting SFR network)
+ 4h00 after updating SIMmaster software and this time clone perfectly work..
=)

sonicdeejay
25-06-2002, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by Iccang
Hi guys..

I was done read my two card (satelindo and telkomsel) by sim master and using simme software.
I get my Telkomsel's IMSI and Ki with 4 hours 30 minutes.
My Satelindo is 3 hours 25 Minutes.

but, with that IMSI and KI, I cannot get network with my simcard8.

@man0n: Can you tell me, what's wrong with my experience? or maybe the simcard8 is not working properly?

I get the simcard8 at ucables.com

Thx before..

BR, Iccang
==========

Hello..Iccang,,
In order to clone the sim,,i just need to buy simmaster from ucable right??
how long did it take to receive the unit after u order??

thanks




:)

Iccang
25-06-2002, 02:58 AM
Sonic..

U must buy simcard8 too if you wanna cloning the card.

U will receive your order between 3 - 4 working days.

Regards,

brakk_
25-06-2002, 03:49 AM
@lccang
how did u fix the problem getting network?
i put my 2 first clones on a blank SIM4 but the network still unreachable for them.
i putted no PIN code, so i use default 0001 & 0002
(Third clone work with new SIMbackup software)

thanks

Iccang
25-06-2002, 09:06 AM
@Brakk_

Actually, I was wrong with my Ki. with simme.exe, on the screen we will see like:

00 00 -> 12 34
00 00 -> 56 78
00 00 -> 90 12
00 00 -> 34 56
00 00 -> 78 90
00 00 -> 12 34
00 00 -> 56 78
00 00 -> 90 12

but the real position is :

00 00 -> 12 78
00 00 -> 34 90
00 00 -> 56 12
00 00 -> 78 34
00 00 -> 90 56
00 00 -> 12 78
00 00 -> 34 90
00 00 -> 56 12

and the result putted on c:\imsi_ki.dat

so, I correct the ki, and.. voila! The phone found network...

Regards,

sonicdeejay
25-06-2002, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by Iccang
Sonic..

U must buy simcard8 too if you wanna cloning the card.

U will receive your order between 3 - 4 working days.

Regards,

thanks..dude..we r neighbour any way..I'm fr SG :D

brakk_
25-06-2002, 03:11 PM
@lccang
thanks man.. i'll try asap

@sonicdeejay
hi
u can find all stuffs described at wexim.com (french online merchant)
they have lot of cool stuffs and good feeling..
i bored them by mail 5 days long and they always reply with 'smile' =)

@ all
have a nice day

sonicdeejay
26-06-2002, 03:58 AM
I understand that sim 8 means i can clon 8 different sim into 1 sim card..so how can I use that sim and how to choose diferent network since 8 network in 1 card,,

now I know about How long does it take to read Ki and IMSI ,,and how about re-writing them into sim 8??


Should i get gold or silver card to clone normal sim card (1 to 1) ??

thanks all
:)

kabihug
27-06-2002, 04:31 AM
the risk of SIM cloning is destroying your own SIM, if u try your own SIM, most likely your forgotten SIM will do the job, yung bang isang taon munang hindi nalalagyan ng load

calvinpower
27-06-2002, 06:22 PM
hi Iccang
I bought my SIM MASTER at gsm-technology
here it is.
http://gsm-technology.com/index/USA,en,USD,details,id_gr,52,id_pr,214.html
I didnt get the empty card (goldwaffer) it works fine on reading but its too slow on p2 that made me terminate the program.
my questions are as follow:
1.can this hadware work on ic programmer or I will need to build JDM hardware.
2.Can I erase these normal card gsm sims (vodacom) and write on them?
3.From where can I buy goldwaffer at a resonable price here they have offered me usd 4.00 http://www.wafer-cards.com/product.htm
but other sites like gsm technology(Empty GSM card for Sim Back-Up device -usd 45.00) here its too expensive why do they differ?

Iccang
28-06-2002, 03:24 AM
Hi calvin..

Actually, I'm not expert in this sesion, but I still try to help you.

1. As far as I know, sim master just can read/scan your imsi and ki card. and that is usefull for sim master that have sim scan function.
2. A normal simcard (AFAIK) is prom. cannot to rewrite.
3. I can give you solution for this q.

but, the simcard8 is the solution if you wanna make a simply way for cloning card, coz it's no need hardware to write it. U can add ur imsi and ki by manual (type it by sim emu 4.01 that including on simcard8).

anybody, correct me if I'm wrong, thx..

Regards,

sonicdeejay
28-06-2002, 05:52 AM
Hello Iccang,
I have few questions for you,,pls hear me out

1.Sim master just read IMSI and Ki of orginal sim card?
2.to clone,,i need simcard 8 rite?

3.can i use gold/silver wafer card?? do i need additonal sim writer??


thanks
sonic
:)

krisis
28-06-2002, 10:12 AM
I have Smart card (pic, GW and pic2) programmer with LudiPipo and phoenix/smartcard modes (I use it for programming sattellite cards). may I use this programmer with simcards. and what about PIN and PUK, can I read them from simcards.

Iccang
28-06-2002, 10:14 AM
Sonic..

1 & 2 : Yup, You're rite...
3. For gold/silver card, U need Hardware like JDM or something like that..

Regards,

sonicdeejay
28-06-2002, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Iccang
Sonic..

1 & 2 : Yup, You're rite...
3. For gold/silver card, U need Hardware like JDM or something like that..

Regards,


thanks Iccang, so sim master is only for reading of IMSI & Ki, Then who do u programm the original IMSI & Ki into SIm8 since it is just a simcard,,u need addaitonal hardware to write on it??


sonic

calvinpower
28-06-2002, 03:45 PM
If you have gold wafer you need JDM hardware to program winphoenix Loader.hex.
where by you can burn the hex file---pic16f84.hex and the eeprom bin.
I dont know much about sim8.
but here is the process for goldwafer-
(A)USE SIM SCAN 121 TO GET IMSI AND KI;
(B)YOU NEED TO CREATE THE HEX FILES FOR THE ABOUVE USE TWINSIM AND FEED IN PIN AND PUK OF YOUR CHOISE
YOU WILL HAVE TWO HEX FILES IN A FOLDER
(C) CONVERTE THE EEPROM.EXE TO EEPROM.BIN USING EXE2BIN CONVERTER AND A NEW FILE EEPROM.BIN WILL BE CREATED
(D) BURN THE EEPROM LOADER TO YOU GOLDWAFER WITH YOU DJM HARDWARE AND A PIC PROGRAMMER AND SELECT 16F84 FROM THE CHIP LIST LOAD WINPHONENIX LOADER.HEX
(E) BURN THE EEPROM BIN NOW USING WINPHOENIX1.06 WITH SIM READER
(F) BURN THE PIC16F84,EXE WITH IC PROGRAMMER WITH DJM HARDWARE.
THATS ALL

sonicdeejay
30-06-2002, 03:39 AM
where can I buy that hardware to clone in gold/silver wafer??

I need reader as wel as writer,,
pls hear me out..

thanks
:)

calvinpower
30-06-2002, 03:11 PM
you can buy it from this site http://users.anytimenow.com/sid67b/GSMSIM3.htm

gazzaman2k
13-07-2002, 02:01 AM
so if i buy this:

http://www.activemobiles.com/SIM_MASTER.htm

and that sim 8 card thing (which cost more than this lol)

is that all i need for a basic set up to clone a sim????

if so how do i do it???

1st of all i use the software that comes on the cd to back it up???

2nd then do i use the software on that cd to write it to the sim 8 thing????

is that all it takes????

or do i have to get the s/w some place else??? coz this is confusing.

BTW i dont want gold wafer cards or silver ect...

just want the basic simple set up like these 2 things thx.

just need to know how to do it?? coz this is confuseing me alot with all these pheinix programmers dejan sim scan ect...

thx for listening peeps.

BTW im not much of a beginner in the world of gms (Nokia phones)

but this is a new thing to me and i just need some advice thx.

someonelink
14-07-2002, 07:16 PM
I was done read many sim card with my sim master (from ucables)and using sim Backup V1.2 software but it destroying my own sim, about 3 sim (all of them si satelindo with numer 0815XXXXXXX ),
Can you tell me ,what's wrong with my experience ?
Can you send me the simme software.

Thanks

cassidy
15-07-2002, 06:58 AM
bought the SIM master from U-cables.

I am trying to clone a SIM using Dejan's SIM-Scan.


I tried using 9600 bps but
I always get this errors:

Send data error

card don't send answer to reset

card not send correct answer to command

The SIM card that I am trying to clone is perfectly normal.

The port is correct. I tried getting the IMSI and KI from an older SIM card and I didn't encounter any problems. Are new SIMs supported by Sim Scan?

What are other softwares that can be used to extract the IMSI and KI?


Help is needed and any comments are greatly appreciated

I'm using it on Windows 98 SE

AMD Athlon 900Mhz

Iccang
15-07-2002, 09:36 AM
Sim Backup 1.2 that I used, but just for your info:

1. Don't make your PC Auto power off (the monitor or something like that).
2. Do not make your screen saver active if U wanna use this software.

Try to still keep move your mouse till the sw end of run. If U tired, stop the sw, and continue again if U would.. don't worry, the data's of ur sim still go continue too..

mantabrian
15-07-2002, 05:20 PM
@Cassidy

SimScan doesn´t work with AMD-processors, try to run it on a Pentium.

Regards
Brian Oestergaard

someonelink
15-07-2002, 06:03 PM
@Iccang

don't read satelindo sim card with numer 0815xxxxxx
the sim master always destroying my satelindo sim card

brakk_
16-07-2002, 12:10 AM
SIMmaster hardware no more use 'external' dejan SIMscan sw and work perfectly (with pre-payed cards too)
new software gived is SIMbackup 2.11, the new .dat file format add new infos (seem be phone numbers and/or SMS datas)
...but if it use new soft, it still use *too much* expensive SIM4/8 cards :D
i have new phoenix/JDM programmator and will create 'virgins' SIM4/8 for SIMmaster, does any knows methods and type of card to use?
( i reapeat coz my english is bad: not to 'backup' some SIM, but to create 'real blank' SIM8-like cards)

thanks..

brakk_
16-07-2002, 12:22 AM
@Cassidy
i had lot of error before trying in 'full screen' DOS session and always resumed when error occurs.
stressing but finally gave perfect clone

Iccang
16-07-2002, 02:26 AM
@someonelink: I was done for cloning my satelindo card. my number is +62815252xxxx.

Regards,
Iccang
========

cassidy
18-07-2002, 03:55 PM
Hey guys! Sorry for replying late.

I'll give it a try in my old pentium computer.

Hope it will work.

Can I ask one thing? Why is there a prob with the AMD procs and Dejan's Simscan? Is there a logical explanation for this?:) :)

Anyway, thanks again, guys!!

Aceofthestreetz
24-07-2002, 09:58 PM
Hey when you sim clone and use one of the im card in one mobile phone and cancell the service does the other sim card keep the info...And if not then someone explain whats the point of sim cards and cloning

nikson
26-07-2002, 03:05 PM
hi anybody who has a Smart Mouse Compatible Schematics


thank

Aceofthestreetz
30-07-2002, 06:05 PM
Is it possible to re copy on gold wafer cards....and if you get sim master can you re-copy on all 8 ports on simcard8.......And wit sim master do u need a reader/writer too????????? Email me please at [email protected]

Mehvishal
30-07-2002, 06:50 PM
I have SIM MASTER but i have problems using it.

With Simscan 1.21 i get

Fatal error : Can't get answer to reset card


What is this?

Can anyone help please

I am also searching for SIM-BACKUP

Where can i download this soft please?


I am using a Pentium III 800 Mhz and Windows 98SE

Help me to clone my sim card please

With Best Regards

newbie
30-07-2002, 11:35 PM
I saw a Sim card reader on Ebay :http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1369624328
Can this reader work like Sim-Master ?

sonicdeejay
12-08-2002, 07:11 AM
hello ppl..I need advise..

I want

1.sim card reader(h/w & s/w)..that read sim's IMSI and KI..
2.sim card writer (h/w & s/w).that clone in gold or silver wafer...


where can I get them???

:)

Mehvishal2
13-08-2002, 04:17 AM
Hello

Can anybody please tell me where a can download SIMbackup 2.11????????

I am searching for this soft everywhere and not finding it.

Or.....


Can somebody explain how to install and use Sim_ scan soft to find KI and IMSI please ??????????



With Best Regards to ALL

Mehvishal2

[email protected]

Shidoshi
17-08-2002, 09:36 AM
I've read that SIM4 can store upto 4 SIMs, 30 numbers and 1 message, whilst SIM8 stores upto 8 SIMs, 250 numbers and 40 messages.

What is the difference between: Goldwafer, Funcard4, Greencard and Silver Card II ? At the site I see no info on these products.

phredrik
21-08-2002, 04:32 PM
Is there some place to download KI and IMSI codes? Or someone who wants to trade..? :grin:

KnOeFz
21-08-2002, 05:20 PM
@phredrik:

pls don't abuse forum for this!

-=K=-

KnOeFz
21-08-2002, 05:24 PM
@shidosi

Goldwafer only works on Nokia and has only space for 2 phonenr's (sims), 1 sms, and only a couple of names

Silvercard can hold up to 8 phonenr's, 20 sms, 250 names (or 40 sms and 125 names) works on most phone brands

Greencard 8 phonenr's, 40 sms, 250 names.... but the greencard version if simemu still has to be released... wil be a couple of days now. You can program you greencard with simemu 4.10 but then it's used as a silvercard.

No soft available for funcards as far as I know.

-=K=-

sonicdeejay
22-08-2002, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by KnOeFz
@shidosi

Goldwafer only works on Nokia and has only space for 2 phonenr's (sims), 1 sms, and only a couple of names

Silvercard can hold up to 8 phonenr's, 20 sms, 250 names (or 40 sms and 125 names) works on most phone brands

Greencard 8 phonenr's, 40 sms, 250 names.... but the greencard version if simemu still has to be released... wil be a couple of days now. You can program you greencard with simemu 4.10 but then it's used as a silvercard.

No soft available for funcards as far as I know.

-=K=-

where can I find the reader/writer??:)

KnOeFz
22-08-2002, 07:21 AM
@Sonicdeejay

I'm not sure I understand what you want...
Cardreader/writers can be found in most satelite shops.
But schematics to make one yoursef are included with simscan software here (http://users.net.yu/~dejan/download/sim_scan.zip)

Sime_emu manual english translation by Alf can be found here (http://alf.di.fct.unl.pt/simemu/)
There also a link to dl simemu soft from there.


-=K=-

sonicdeejay
22-08-2002, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by KnOeFz
@Sonicdeejay

I'm not sure I understand what you want...
Cardreader/writers can be found in most satelite shops.
But schematics to make one yoursef are included with simscan software here (http://users.net.yu/~dejan/download/sim_scan.zip)

Sime_emu manual english translation by Alf can be found here (http://alf.di.fct.unl.pt/simemu/)
There also a link to dl simemu soft from there.


-=K=-
thanks dude..
which web is selling reader/writer??relible n cheap...

KnOeFz
22-08-2002, 10:02 AM
http://www.visoduck.com/ these guy sel programmers and cards but I never ordered from them.... They have shops all over europe though... so you should be able to find one near you. Don't know if their programmers are compatible with simscan... maybe you should mail them about it.

-=K=-

ps. I notice alot of price diffence for the same product in different countries on the site mentioned above. You might want to look around carefully before you buy anything. Maybe go to your local satelite shop and get some info there.

Manipulator
22-08-2002, 10:48 AM
is it possible to get the KI from a PUK blocked simcard/totally blocked.
the dejan got mention about changing the crystal/resonator of 10.240 Mhz from old cordless phone and it will speed up about 2.5 x to 3 x using COM port speed 28800on his sim_scan readme file.
is he mean that we can change the sim_sacn reader 3.579MHz crystal to 10.240MHz so that we can set the comport to 28800 speed to speed up the find KI process using sim-scan.
can i change the 3.579MHz crystal to 12.000MHz crystal to run the comport speed at 28800 to speed up the find KI process.

phredrik
22-08-2002, 10:57 AM
if i have a sim i dont know the pin code for, can i still make a backup and use that without ever knowing the pin for the original sim?

sonicdeejay
22-08-2002, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by KnOeFz
@Sonicdeejay

I'm not sure I understand what you want...
Cardreader/writers can be found in most satelite shops.
But schematics to make one yoursef are included with simscan software here (http://users.net.yu/~dejan/download/sim_scan.zip)

Sime_emu manual english translation by Alf can be found here (http://alf.di.fct.unl.pt/simemu/)
There also a link to dl simemu soft from there.


-=K=-
click (http://www.maxking.com/) it to check the variety of programmers..it is under -online shop--programmer session.which programer should i get to clone GSM sim card..please advice..
thanks
sonic

KnOeFz
22-08-2002, 01:14 PM
@ sonicdeejay


I'm sorry but I really can't say much about it...
There are several programmers on this site that are able to program silver cards... they wil probably also do greencards (16f877+24c128)

Maybe you could mail them and ask if the programmer you'd like supports simscan. It needs to support socalled phoenix/mouse mode.

I did found a pcb layout of my vp 20 programmer... if you are able to make pcb's yourself you might wanna have a go with this.

KnOeFz
22-08-2002, 01:23 PM
hmmm attachment din't come along...
new attempt.

-=K=-

sonicdeejay
23-08-2002, 03:17 AM
ok..thanks

:)

sonicdeejay
23-08-2002, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by KnOeFz
hmmm attachment din't come along...
new attempt.

-=K=-

afterbuilding it..which software do I need to use?>

KnOeFz
23-08-2002, 08:33 AM
1 For ki and imsi extraction use simscan
2 For building hex files for flash and eeprom use sim_emu for silvercards, twinsim or kissme or some prog like that for goldcard.
3 Burn flash and eeprom to card with Icprog or whatever soft you like.

Note: I haven't build Dejans schematic myself, so I really can't help you out with that.

-=K=-

sachin
25-08-2002, 09:51 PM
dear friend
hello
i am sachin
i just want to ask u one question and that is ...
i am having one prepaid card which i want to make it's clone
and i am having another expired prepaid card ..can i erase the data of that following card and store the data of my prepaid card is that possible .......
can i make my own sim card reader/writer ?
how it is possible

what is gold or silver card ...????????

wating for your reply
thanx
your's
sachin......

Manipulator
26-08-2002, 04:12 AM
when i use sim scan to find KI for the first time ,i press F5,but it show can't open par2.bin.i know that the par2.bin will automatically created but for me it show up the message and the program has stop.can i use other ppl par2.bin.the par2.bin is for all simcard use,or every got it own par2.bin.

any suggestion,what program is good to use for find ki other than cardinal and sim scan.

is there any 1 got try to change the sim_sacn reader 3.579MHz crystal to 10.240MHz so that we can set the comport to 28800 speed to speed up the find KI process using sim-scan.
can i change the 3.579MHz crystal to 12.000MHz crystal to run the comport speed at 28800 to speed up the find KI process.

any 1 know thw real name for so call silver card.i can't find the silvercard in electronics component shop like RS component and Farnell. the so call silvercard is only the name we use in internet.

KnOeFz
26-08-2002, 07:54 AM
@ Manipulator

you can use 10.... mhz chrystals but it's a matter of trial and error... they won't work for everyone... But I sure know people using fast chrystals... I used only up to 6.0 mhz.

You can download par2.bin (http://members.home.nl/jveltman/PAR2.zip) for the next day or 2 from me... can't seem to up it to the forum. It's not specific for every compyuter so you can use anyone's par2.bin

About cards...

goldcard 16F84 + 24lc16
silvercard 16f877 + 24c64
greencard 16f877 + 24c128

the 16f877 could also be 16f876 with some maufactorers.


@sachin

You can't use expired original card to write clone on... you need gold/silver/greencard

micrograph99
26-08-2002, 08:26 AM
Anyone ever have the following problem when using Sim Scan 1.33?

When scaning for IMSI and KI (normal method) it always Errors out (crashes) at approx 5000 (can't remeber exactly) and is not able to reach F800 .

anyone know how I can remedy this problem? Tried using windows 95, windows 98 same thing....

crystal is 3.57

Manipulator
26-08-2002, 03:46 PM
@KnOeFz
thanks for the par2.bin

nase ck
31-08-2002, 04:38 AM
hi there! i think your card is new product. maybe the sim made after 2001...but u should try contineu for finding the KI but after several time error maybe your card damage..tg

KnOeFz
31-08-2002, 04:22 PM
I have some new cards but the didn't blow any fuse trying to extract ki... they just kept running forever (all bytes in red and kept on running)

I did blow the fuse on a comp128 card once beeing stupid enough to use cardinal on it :(

-=K=-

nase ck
01-09-2002, 06:15 AM
how long your running your simscan for finding the IMSI and KI.KnOeFz?i talk about mine i running about few hous maybe 3hr till add to 65800 plus. and lastly i get the msg finding failer. after that my card can't use any more..that's mean card can't get line or line down. and i try again but i have no lucky sim scan do dot read anymore...got fatal error...(i try with prepaid card 0ne2call thailad)...or u have any solution 4 my simcard life again...tq

nase ck
01-09-2002, 06:32 AM
ok..i forgot to tell u KnOeFz the One2Call prepaid card from thailand not comp128 algorithm. i do not know it is true but i know coz i see the card write v.2..am i right?KnOeFz. tq

ps: sorry 4 my poor english

micrograph99
01-09-2002, 06:46 AM
I was trying to find crystal for my sim card reader and found an old 386 motherboard with a 14.31818 Mhz crystal so I decided to use it.. to my surprise it works very well found KI in approx 1 hour.

Unfortunately it only worked for Microcell (Fido, Canada) Sim cards tried to find KI for AT&T(Rogers, Canada) Sim cards but its been taking a couple of days now.... the KI bytes turn red and kept running.... just like KnOeFz

KnOeFz
01-09-2002, 07:57 AM
@ nase ck
If your card is broken there's now way you can still extrack ki. You can thow at away... will not work anymore. You have to buy new card from you sp. With simscan 1.21 it could take days to extract ki, but with new simscan it's much faster



@micrograph99

Nice :) 1 hour... that's really fast! What option did you use in simscan 1.33? F5-F... (wanted to know just out of interest)

-=K=-

nase ck
02-09-2002, 07:16 AM
just use f5 and f1..i use dejan schematic for building the reader and set comport speed at 6.12 Mhz 0r 16457 bps.for your information my computer is 300Mhz celeron with 96 sdram....ok tq:D

Manipulator
03-09-2002, 09:58 AM
@micrograph99
i see you say you use 14.318 MHz on your sim reader and it work.
what option you select on sim-scan.what is you pc speed(pentium....),and windows......

i have changed my sim-scan reader crystal to 6, 8, 10 ,12, 14.318(from old soundcard), 25.372, 27.045MHZ.but only crystal 6MHz work for me in pentium166-windows98se.
only 3.579MHZ sim-scan reader work on my pentiumIII 450MHz-windows98se.

CloneKing
03-09-2002, 01:17 PM
Can any Phoenix/Smartmouse programmer read a SIM card.?

micrograph99
03-09-2002, 03:14 PM
Running on a 166Mhz (pure dos)... Using Simscan 1.3... not using Dejan reader... using a litronic smart card reader

Manipulator
04-09-2002, 09:42 AM
@micrograph99

why i can't run simscan1.3 with dos on my pentium166 with windows98.:(
do you have the schematic for the "litronic smart card reader":p

nase ck
05-09-2002, 08:21 AM
@manipulator
i think sim scan 1.33 can not run in pure dos.try win98 or win me...if cannot....reboot your com in ssafe mode and run again...tg

KnOeFz
05-09-2002, 05:40 PM
@Manipulator

as I have win 2k wich also doesn't run simscan from a dosbox I have to boot from a win98 bootdisk/cd and use a dos extender (cwsdpmi.exe) to make simscan work.

- boot from cd/floppy
- run dos extender program
- run simscan


-=K=-

Salami1_1
05-09-2002, 06:44 PM
Hej

Could you give me download link/site fot
kissmi soft?
I already have twinsim but I would like to check out that soft to.

bedankt :)

oki lama zitte heb um al gevonden :) sorry (already found it)

grtn

salami1_1

KnOeFz
06-09-2002, 07:27 AM
@salami:

ok :) I take it you found it in this forum? I upped it there.

ps, note that thereé a newer Cardinal version in the make (3.0) with selectable brute force option. I don't know if it's safe to use. I stick to simscan myself ('cause I once broke a card using Cardinal 68) but it's interesting to take a look at.

Cardinal website (http://www.mfgware.com/)

-=K=-

Manipulator
06-09-2002, 10:04 AM
@micrograph99
hey,i run sim-scan1.33 with win98se,sim-scan reader with 6MHz crystal,pentium166 with 64Mb ram.
it get Ki less than a hour.only 57minute.hehe.:grin:

Larry
06-09-2002, 10:17 AM
That's all very nice, but what practical reasons could you have for actually cloning a sim card? running two sims with the same number seems a bit crazy to me, especially as you couldn't really know which would ring. and surely the network providers are clued into that?
I was considering if maybe you could clone phonecards (the big ones you put into phoneboxes) However I doubt this would enable you to steal from the phonecompany as nowdays they probably authorise the card when you stick it in and the remaining balance is read from the company, rather than the card..
(I know it's a little off topic but..) I used to play around with cloning the old sky cards back in the day.. that was interesting. I don't really have anything to say here, but just thought I'd share that as it's linked in with card readers and such.

Salami1_1
06-09-2002, 08:40 PM
@KnOeFz

yeah I found it :) (I was to fast with posting the question I had to look around first :) )

Yeah my favourite is simscan also... But hej maybe the new version of cardinal beats simscan :)

I hope some of these days comp128 v2 algorithm will be broken :D

WBR

Salami1_1

ohjyeah thnx for link to cardinal webiste.. didn't had that one :)

Mitnick
11-09-2002, 12:28 PM
Hi all!
I have problem with Sim_Scan.I can't read sim cards with Sim_Scan on my computer[Card don't send ATR].But i test the Sim_Scan on other computer with same reader and it's working.Other programs works with theese reader on my computer,but Sim_Scan don't.Many people told me that my computer is fast and Sim_Scan cant't work with fast computers.It's Celeron 1.1GHz.I test Sim_Scan on Celeron 400Mhz and it works perfect.
Please help!!!

CloneKing
12-09-2002, 08:59 AM
@Mitnick

How did u boot up the 1ghz Celeron.?

CloneKing
12-09-2002, 09:55 AM
Simscan took 2hr 44mins to find the KI
Cardinal took up to 16hrs

Simscan running on P-166mhz, 32mb ram, DOS with extender.
Phoenix running at 6mhz

Cardinal running on P3-1Ghz, 256mb ram, Win2000Pro.
also P3-450mhz, 256mb ram, WinXP Pro.
Phoenix running at 6mhz

Manipulator
13-09-2002, 06:14 AM
hey,i run sim-scan1.33 with win98se,sim-scan reader with 6MHz crystal,pentium166 with 64Mb ram to read GemPlus sim.
it get Ki less than a hour.only 57minute.
hehe.i not sure for other simcard,i have no other simcard to test,but i think is about the same.:D :grin: :p

CloneKing
13-09-2002, 08:17 AM
I used F5,F2

what abt u?

Manipulator
16-09-2002, 11:18 AM
@CloneKing

i use F5-F1.but i think the time to get KI is more or same,not much differance.later i will try if i got time F5-F2 and let you know the result.

Navisis
19-09-2002, 02:39 AM
Is it possible to us my DirecTV unlooper to read SIM cards?


I have an unlooper (capable of doing glitching) rather than an ISO Programmer. I don't believe (from my brief reading on the subject) that you need to glitch past any security features (like you do for DTV smartcards) in order to read from the SIM

freak
22-09-2002, 03:09 PM
iccang pls help me start with it, really curious bout cloning sim card.. how can i start with it??? what do i need, where to get and what stuff to get... :(

bajasko
03-10-2002, 04:10 PM
Hi guyz,

I'm not interested in cloning my SIM card just for fun. I'm looking for "step-by-step" manual on how to put two (or more) SIM cards on a Gold or a Silvercard I bought.

best rgds

bajasko

Visar Mato
03-10-2002, 08:26 PM
Hi to all
I'm going to make a card for my self with all the cards that i have
2 for Albania
2 for Greece
1 for Italia
The card that i need sure is at ucables.com that can store up to 8 cards on it.

What about the hardware\
Who is the best and the faster.
Where can i buy?

Regards
Visar

megordon2002
03-10-2002, 10:09 PM
Hi,

You can store up to 8 sims on a silvercard, so before spending money, look around.

I just finished cloning 3 sims on a silver and it works perfectly but yesterday i was almost ready to purchase at Ucables :-)
You can find total help just linking through google:-)

The fastest to get kI is simscan if you have the right reader/writer. If you're not in a hurry, let's say 7-8 hours per card, Cardinal is very good and seems very safe.

MG

Visar Mato
04-10-2002, 06:44 AM
So you are working with cardinal..
I need a scheme to build a reader writer.
But if i buy from ucables the sim master it's about 57 euros this device works with silvercards or only with sim backup 8 in one.

Someone can send me a scheme or a link

Manipulator
04-10-2002, 07:23 AM
sim master is very stupid one,don't buy it.it is hard/can't use with software that write by other programmer.so as the simmaster program.
to get KI,is better you build the dejan sim-scan reader,it can use with many software like cardinal,.......it is very good and easy to build.
to program silvercard just build JDM pic-programmer and phoenix.
phoenix is use to program eeprom area.but maybe the sim-scan can do the job too,i haven't try,i don't have silver card.

Visar Mato
04-10-2002, 07:58 AM
So i need to build Dejan Simscan,Jdm pic programmer and phoenix.Do you have schemes or a link

Regards
Visar

Manipulator
04-10-2002, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Visar Mato
So i need to build Dejan Simscan,Jdm pic programmer and phoenix.Do you have schemes or a link

Regards
Visar


here you are

Visar Mato
04-10-2002, 11:47 AM
Thnx
Can you send me software in my mail please
[email protected]
Regards
Visar

brakk_
07-10-2002, 08:58 AM
@Manipulator

i used sim master with most of sim oriented software
sim-scan, cardinal for most popular...
i mean 'dedicated' software are just simscan's ripp with frontend (maybe for author right mystake)... i think hardware part isn't so different than dejan's reader
cards are pre-formated silvers made with sim emu (ref. doc)
so.. just how much all that could be sell is stupid =)
(packaging is art of simplest massive attraction... with +80% benefits ;)

Manipulator
08-10-2002, 07:24 AM
???

nonu_don
13-10-2002, 07:51 PM
i have some problems.
#1 does vp20 does all the work, ie read imsi and ki and write them back to a new silvercard
#2 a link to pcb an scematics fro vp20
#3 for writting to a new blank sim do i need 2 type of h/w, ie jdm programmer and pic, or only jdm prog ( if i am confused then please tell me diff. between jdm and pic, or what is this pic)

try replying to them in a more explained manner, cause u are replying to a bigenner.

brakk_
13-10-2002, 08:23 PM
@manipulator

??? > u said : sim master is very stupid one,don't buy it.it is hard/can't use with software that write by other programmer.so as the simmaster program.

i just would to share some experience i have with this hardware =)
is there any mistake?

nonu_don
27-10-2002, 09:00 AM
..

Manipulator
28-10-2002, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by brakk_
@manipulator

??? > u said : sim master is very stupid one,don't buy it.it is hard/can't use with software that write by other programmer.so as the simmaster program.

i just would to share some experience i have with this hardware =)
is there any mistake?

sorry,i dont mean that.
any one have use the Dr>sim program.any idea how to use it with sim_scan reader.

tarantino
11-11-2002, 09:08 PM
hi guys!

What hardware should I use? Since my electronic skills are very bad I have to buy ready made hardware. What should I buy to:

1) clone sim cards

2) program simemu software in a greencard or silvercard

3) read ki & IMSI

and where I can find that. By the way can you tell me what is the difference between a 16F877 PIC, and the greencard that I found that has a "Pic 16F876 (10 Mhz) + Eeprom 24LC128 de 128K". Is there any problem at all?

thanx

secc11
12-11-2002, 03:03 AM
Hello, Can you help me. I have destroyed two sim cards. Using your program and sim scan. I get half the Ki numbers about 3 hours then destroyed cards. These are USA T-mobile cards. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

KnOeFz
12-11-2002, 05:55 PM
@ Tarantino:

1: buy a pc with win 98 :) an eeprom programmer, make sure it supports ludipipo and phoenix mode to be able to program both eeprom and flash memory on the card, and buy a silver or greencard to make your clone

2: look at www.simemu.com for simemu and www.icprog.com for good programming soft

3: use dejan's sim_scan 1.33 to get ki and imsi

a greencard can contain either a 16f876 or a 16f877, both are fine


Happy cloning :D

-=K=-

tarantino
12-11-2002, 09:18 PM
@ KnOeFz:

Thanks for the !clear! and prompt answer!

Manipulator
22-11-2002, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by KnOeFz
hmmm attachment din't come along...
new attempt.

-=K=-

is your vp20 same like the vp20 pcb that you attach on this forums,here i attach it agian.
i have make the pcb,but i having problem with the card detect part.i not sure that the problem is come from my transistor or not,but i think the problem is on the pcb it self.
the vp20 only work to reader simcard after i cut/broken the circuit to card detect,because the card detect switch has grounded the voltage that need to read/program the chip.
if your pcb is same as this,what transistor you use,how it connect.

tarantino
30-11-2002, 12:17 AM
i have a gemplus card to read it's respective IMSI & KI. i was told that it was possible to destroy it using normal procedures. can someone please tell me what should i do to not destroy the sim card.

thanks

testing123
10-12-2002, 03:50 AM
Gents,

Does anyone know how to read the Ki (or obtain the Ki from a service provider??) from a non-Comp128 Sim card as used by Vodafone?

ANY help / thoughts / suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

TA!
A

secc11
10-12-2002, 04:01 AM
Unable to use simbackup or sim scan software. Can these cards be cracked?

USA

testing123
10-12-2002, 04:20 AM
Thanks for the reply - The Vodafone Australia cards using non-Comp128 have been around for 4 or 5 years - So I was hoping that someone might know what encryption standards they used...?

I believe that the same encryption standards are used by the following:

Vodafone (Australia) Sconosciuto
Libertel (Olanda) Sconosciuto
PTT (Olanda) Sconosciuto
Deutsche Telekom (Germania) Sconosciuto
E-Plus (Germania) Sconosciuto
Tabella 1: lista operatori che non usano COMP128

Does anyone know what encryption standards ANY of these SIMs use?

Thanks!
A

y9001
14-12-2002, 01:31 PM
i want to program a silvercard. i need modified hex with my imsi&ki or i can program with a original hex,then program it by phone?

Manipulator
15-12-2002, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by y9001
i want to program a silvercard. i need modified hex with my imsi&ki or i can program with a original hex,then program it by phone?

use simemu to generate the hex,and it got a program for you the put in your KI.

nonu_don
15-12-2002, 05:13 AM
is it like that, if a programmer doesnt have a crystal in it,, it is to program the pic memory and if it using a crystal it is to program the eeprom??

correct me if i am wrong..

Naman

goyete
05-01-2003, 04:55 PM
I have the software to extract the Ki and the IMSI, but I haven't got the reader for the SIM.

Please, somebody can tell me a good reader (and cheap) for the SIM. I'm thinking on buying the SC Master (90 Euros) or SIM Master (55 Euros). I think that Sim Scan 1.33 from Dejan works with both.

Thanks for all.

DaveGSM82
05-01-2003, 06:36 PM
go to ebay and look for one, I bought on and it works fine.

Dave

goyete
05-01-2003, 06:43 PM
Ok sir, but my problem is that I don't know what kind of programmer/reader I have to use, ¿Smartcard, Phoenix, Picrom, Apollo...? I don't know what makes each other.

Thanks.

sadom
05-01-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by goyete
Ok sir, but my problem is that I don't know what kind of programmer/reader I have to use, ¿Smartcard, Phoenix, Picrom, Apollo...? I don't know what makes each other.

Thanks.

same qustion :)
bty : can i use FUN card to clone my sim ?

edetam
05-01-2003, 10:13 PM
helo my have a problem my gold wafer work in my phone but i'm dont have network somebody can help me

shelltox
06-01-2003, 09:20 AM
sadom...
with SIMEMU / TWINSIM , you can not use fun card.
to SIMEMU 5.00 you need a silver card ou green:
PIC = 16F877 + 24LC64*/128/256

with 24LC64 use SIMEMU version 5.00s

For TWINSIM have to be a goldcard

goyete...
for find KI+IMSI you need a phoenix, or smartmouse, or simreader by Dejan, or a simmaster.

to program a silver/green/gold smartcard, you also need PIC programmer ex: JDM, ludipipo

or a VP20 that can do the 2 modes(vp20 is 2 devices in one): phoenix / JDM

sadom
06-01-2003, 10:01 AM
@shelltox

I have Master CRD 2

shelltox
06-01-2003, 01:17 PM
what you want do with it?

to program SIMEMU5.00 in one silver/green card

Mode 2:
JDM/Ludipipo
Mode 0:
Smartmouse/Phoenix mode (6 MHz)

to scan a SIM

Mode 0:
Smartmouse/Phoenix mode (6 MHz)

beico2003
15-01-2003, 06:51 PM
i got a sim magic software,it simple to read and write,i try it 100%
work,i do not what happening here,for me ,it easy to read ki and imsi,it become dat file,then just write it,it take 4 to 8 hours to read
but write only take 1 second,u can have 8 number in the same card,it rewriteable,i bought from my friend ,it cost me 65usd,u can simply clone other people card but pls dont do that,it no good

cokneyrebel
29-01-2003, 07:07 PM
hi there, i have been doing research on how to clone a sim card and there is a couple of things that i need to clear up if anyone can help.

1. i am from england and as i understand it all newly manurefactured sim cards are comp128v2 and this is why they are destroyed. is this a fact?

2. if comp128v2 can be decrypted then how is this possible?

3. say you were to top up an acount and then clone the sim, dose the acount copy to the second sim. say you top up with £10 and then clone the card 3 times do you now have £30 credit?

4. i know there is sim master from tiwan and there is some talk about simemu but what is the definative reader writher?

5. is there anything better than sim scan available for cloning uk sims?

if anyone has this information then please, i would be greatfull if you would help me.

cokneyrebel
29-01-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by sadom


same qustion :)
bty : can i use FUN card to clone my sim ?


you can not use a fun card programer to copy sim cards to my knowledge. i used to work in a satalite shop and me and a friend have tried to use some different types o programer. fun card programers are limited to fun cards only. you cant even program red, green or gold cards for satalite use. the other reason for not using a fun card is that you must use the entire card and there for it is dificult to put a sim card in that has been poped out. it is possible to make an addaptor from a playing card and some blue tack but i am not sure exactly how well this would work

buy a proper sim card programer

cokneyrebel
29-01-2003, 07:17 PM
how do you get one of those cool little logos under your name?

goyete
29-01-2003, 11:07 PM
Hello, finally I bought SIM Max III from Taiwan, from www.sim-max.com. I have a SIM reader and a 12 in 1 blank SIM. I can swith from one number to another in 20 seconds. I also can put a PIN, not only 0000, I can put the number I want. It cost me 80 Euros (the SIM Reader/Writer, the blank SIM and a CD software).

I have cloned two old SIM that I have in my house but I can't clone new SIM (I think here in Spain all SIM of MoviStar are V2). The SIM Scanner (included in software) tells me "Unknown" but the SIM goes working, the SIM doesn't destruct after read it 70000 times.

Anyone knows a software to read V2 SIM?

Thanks everyone, I know soon we'll be able to clone V2 SIM.

vodi
04-09-2003, 09:16 AM
Dear All,

I would like to ask your help in one issue, which is very interesting form me and it is linked to the SIM cards as well.... It is not a real "cloning", but similar...
I would like to lear program the different SIMs from differnt SIM suppliers, such as G+, Oberthure or Schlumberger...
To be able to program the cards, I need some special APDUs (commands) to be able to do a real programming script or upload applications etc. ....
I would like to know the Class, Instruction and the 3 Parameters of the following command, which are SIM vendor specific and not standardised in the GSM specs... GSM 11.11 or GSM 11.14
I would like to know the Verify Key (ADMin key) and if existing the Directory (List all files on the card) command. If there is somebody, who knows more about the Over the Air commands and keys this information is welcomme as well...
Please help me, if somebody has any experience on this field...
Many thanks in advance,

Regards,
Vodi

SirGraham
04-09-2003, 10:31 AM
Hi vodi,

I think is a interesting way to work. Like coment diferent aspect of this question. You can contact me in : [email protected] or in my forum (you can post in english too)

Regards,
Sir Graham.

PhoneGeek
14-06-2004, 12:40 AM
Them cards are 8 in 1.. but how wud i switch between each number on one sim card? Wud i need to type in a code on the phones key pad or summit?

holden_dude
24-09-2004, 03:03 AM
all i need is for someone to tell me what i need and how to do it. i want to clone my telstra australia sim card so i can use it in my Motorola C201 as well as my 6610i, as opposed to changing sims all the time...

devion
08-03-2005, 09:12 PM
I recently saw the movie: The Bourne supremacy.
In this movie there is a scene where Jason Bourne is held on a police station, he knoks some guards down.... bla bla bla. After that he put a SIM card in the mini-SIM-adapter that comes with the Chipdrive micro(www.towitoko.com) he puts the mini-SIM-adapter into the chipdrive micro and plugs the device into his phone (Siemens me45, this phone has USB). After the device had been plugged in he presses a few times on the green button and its looks like he is making a phonecall, this will take about 3 secs and then the chipdrive micro signals something and he's done, puts the sim from the mini-SIM-adapter back into the phone of the guard that was questioning him. Later on the guard receives a phonecall and Jason Bourne could actually listen the conversation on his own phone!!

First I thought he had cloned the SIM of the guard, but after reading this topic I found out that if you clone a SIM the last SIM that had been connected to the network is activated. Can someone please tell what 'Jason Bourne' :lol: did with the other phone(of the guard).

This is not for illegal stuff or something, I'm just curious.

Please tell me....

devion
08-03-2005, 09:25 PM
I have recently seen the movie: The Bourne supremacy.
In this movie there is a certain guy (Jason Bourne) that has been held on a police station. He knocks some guards down and grabs the phone of one of the guards. He places the Sim of the phone in a mini-sim-adapter that comes with the chipdrive micro (http://www.towitoko.com) he places the mini-sim-adapter into the chipdrive micro and plugs the whole device in his own cellphone(Siemens me45, with USB!). He presses on his phone multiple time on the green button and it looks like he is making a phonecall. After about 3 secs the device signals something and he is done.
Later in the movie the guard receives a phonecall and Jason Bourne could actually listen the conversation with his own phone, it looks like he receives a phonecall but he can listen to the conversation of the guard and some other person.

First I thought he cloned the sim of the guard and that was the reason that he could 'tap in', but after reading this topic I found out that if you clone a sim only the last sim connected to the network will work and the other one doesn't work. So now I'm verry curious what he has done with the 2 simcards.

This is not meant fot illigal purposes or something, I'm just curious.

Please tell me if you know the awnser.

eblaster101
01-04-2005, 11:44 AM
lol its just a movie man, im sure they wouldnt have looked that deeply into it, as long as u get the jist its just a film

al_Fraja
27-04-2005, 12:34 AM
Hi All,

Im trying to find my KI, but i dont have any success.
My card is from TIM (Brazil) and im using 9600 (3.57mhz).
Below the screenshot after 12 hours...

Someone can help ?

Thanks and my apologizes for my english.

Fraja.

lipemeyer
28-04-2005, 09:42 PM
Hi All,

Im trying to find my KI, but i dont have any success.
My card is from TIM (Brazil) and im using 9600 (3.57mhz).
Below the screenshot after 12 hours...

Someone can help ?

Thanks and my apologizes for my english.

Fraja.


Blz cara? Também sou do Brasil.. Putz, seu pc é lento em cara? Qual máquina? Pois o meu com uma hora ja chega em 63480 sei la.. Mas vc tem q tirar esse limite.. Deixei o meu rodando em casa ja tem umas 15 horas, vou chegar em casa e ver como esta, acredito que ja esteja em 200000. Mas acho q nao tem como ler esses chips V2, infelizmente..

T+ ae..

al_Fraja
29-04-2005, 01:28 AM
Wassup Lipe.

Great ! but, here, lets talk in english, because, the guys dont understand (yet) portuguese.

Yes, i dont know if brazillian sim cards uses V2 or V1, buts, im trying for 4 days to find the ki and i dont have any success... im very pissed...

So, i have get some others simcards from others networks (claro and brtelecom), im gonna test now.

Contact me by msn later, ok ?

Fraja.

lipemeyer
29-04-2005, 03:03 PM
Wassup Lipe.

Great ! but, here, lets talk in english, because, the guys dont understand (yet) portuguese.

Yes, i dont know if brazillian sim cards uses V2 or V1, buts, im trying for 4 days to find the ki and i dont have any success... im very pissed...

So, i have get some others simcards from others networks (claro and brtelecom), im gonna test now.

Contact me by msn later, ok ?

Fraja.

Ok Fraja, and what`s your msn?

Thanks,
Felipe

al_Fraja
29-04-2005, 10:45 PM
Felipe,

[email protected] - msn

bazanar
03-05-2005, 01:10 PM
Al fraja any luck with other sims im in argentina trying the same and nothing they r v1 but nothing y supose they r v1 cause woron 109 if detect something diferent than v1 doesent start the scan.

al_Fraja
04-05-2005, 02:17 PM
Bazanar,

No Luck... i have discovered that simcards used by brazillians cell operators are produced by an company called GDBURTI (www.gdburti.com.br) and this company uses comp128v2, v3 and other algorithymic...

Bazanar, try to use cardinal...


Al fraja any luck with other sims im in argentina trying the same and nothing they r v1 but nothing y supose they r v1 cause woron 109 if detect something diferent than v1 doesent start the scan.

SteveJack
01-06-2005, 08:55 AM
Trying to extract my KI using SIM Magic. All I get is ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? after eight hours searching. Does my SIM need unlocking or something? Tried Cardinal and got the same. The SIM still works. Any Thoughts?

sgaykhe
02-06-2005, 10:27 AM
Hello
what if i clonned the sim card will i be able to receive the sms on both the sim? or it will be on the host card only?
thanks

jafarmg
01-07-2005, 02:13 PM
I understand that sim 8 means i can clon 8 different sim into 1 sim card..so how can I use that sim and how to choose diferent network since 8 network in 1 card,,


pls explain

jafar mg

homeros10
08-07-2005, 05:54 PM
thanx alot anf go go go

painkillah1
13-07-2005, 11:36 PM
I have just recently joined but I am a little familiar with programming smart cards. I have a smart card programer I used for DirecTV smart card cloning and such. This should work on the waffer SIMs shouldn't it? Can I buy a new SIM off ebay compatible with my cellular carrier and erase it then re-write it with a clone of my current SIM? Anyone have a link to a US/CAN site selling GSM compatible waffer cards? THX

engefer
09-08-2005, 07:19 PM
Fraja

Tudo bem vc conseguiu clonar seu chip versao 2

Salami1_1
09-08-2005, 07:25 PM
SPEAK english!

Change it or I will bann you!

WBR

raeichele
30-08-2005, 04:20 PM
Has anyone cloned a Rogers (Canada) or a T-MOBILE (USA) SIM?

nokiabr
09-09-2005, 07:22 PM
Hi, i'm trying to clone a brazilian SIM Cards, but it's not working because it's a V2 SIM card, there is any way to crack v2 ki cards ?

Thanks

nokiabr
09-09-2005, 08:04 PM
Hi, not every card are manufactured by gdburti, oldest cards (at least claro, maybe tim either) are v1, so if you get a card from 2002-2004, it should be v1.

Regards,

susanta_gaan
01-10-2005, 12:50 PM
Can any body suggest which sim reader is the best to clone the latest sim.and where i shall find it .Pl inform me through my mail [email protected]

hackers_limit
11-10-2005, 03:18 AM
can send me a schematic diagram of sim card cloner and how it is being clone pls..........

anand77
15-10-2005, 12:57 AM
Hi there,

I purchased Magicsim 4 in 1 from Magicsim.com.
The problem is whenever i scan my Digi (Malaysia) Sim card i crashes.
I have not be able to use the sim card ... i have changed a few sim card but then still no luck. Few of my friends has done it but they are using different network. I have even tried on their Device but same thing happen .. do i have to use Strong KI in order to find the KI from my sim card. I am scanning my sim card with Sim Scanner v9.0. Please help .. i am almost give up .. but then i though of giving it a try in here.

Thanks

meskholder
16-10-2005, 09:55 AM
HI guyes
can all this "Sim cloning"
be by coping files from one sim card to another sim card

vicorpusa
06-11-2005, 10:25 AM
Hello, can anyone help me please? I have destroyed 4 sim cards. I get partial Ki numbers about 3 hours then destroyed cards (all USA T-mobile cards). Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot!

(Cingualr cards are successfully cloned)

FClone
09-11-2005, 03:17 AM
Olá a todos :razz:
Será k alguem me diz kuando e como posso lêr o cartão da vodafone pra poder operar as 3 redes no meu Green Card 2. :wink: É só o k me falta.É keles na percebem k assim há muita gente k deixa de comprar o cartão pk na pode ter as 3 redes num só, pk essa coisa de ter kandar a abrir o télélé pra mudar de rede é muita chatoo :???: . Lá keles desactivem o nº kuando detectem 2 ecos iguais tá bem , e tá certo .Fica o apelo feito pra k se lembrem k na é assim tão mau ter kuase tudo em 1 :-D .
Fikem bem .........abraço do Clone......... :eek:

webmaster555
09-11-2005, 07:51 AM
Hey guys how are you?
I'm not a spamer and I don't advertise anything so don't ban me please.
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Thanks you very much.

mike8855
13-11-2005, 02:00 AM
Verb "ban" has normally only one "n" dude ;)

SPEAK english!

Change it or I will bann you!

WBR

maxintense
28-11-2005, 05:14 PM
if i have both sim cards on 2 different phone and both phones are turned on. will i receive sms on both phones? anyone know?

djdjdjdj
09-12-2005, 07:49 PM
does anyone know how to clone a v2 sim card? please help..i already have the hardware..but do i need anythin else in order to clone a v2 sim??

Cho :)
15-12-2005, 04:46 PM
Hello All,

I know IMSI and Ki of my V2 card.

Where I can buy blank V2 algorithm supported multisim card?
Is this V2 blank card will handle V1 algorithm also, in order to store V1 and V2 cards inside?

Thanks for any info you share and have a nice Xmas holidays,
Cho :)

djdjdjdj
16-12-2005, 12:24 AM
hey man..how did u find out your information ( Ki and Imsi) of your sim card?

please let me know

thanks

MegaADY
16-12-2005, 02:48 PM
If you have the IMSI/KI of a v2 ( i don't belive this ) you can put them in the old sim emu for v1's ... it should work. V2 was designed to keep you away from the imsi/ki pair . But... I think every people in this forum would like to see how did you managed to extract data from a v2 card ... :eek:

Cho :)
19-12-2005, 02:45 PM
I've said that I knew Ki of my V2 card, never mention "extract".
I get it form a friend inside mobile operator. (as you wish believe it ;) )

But not works with ordianary sim card programmers, I've test it on 3 different devices and 2 different cards.
After ~10 seconds, phone shows "SIM card registration failed".
Cards just don't support V2.

I've red that there is programmed Silver and Gold cards with SIM-EMU 6.01 which support V1 and V2 algorithms, but can't find such cards.
In this card you enter IMSIs and Kis directly in STK menu from the phone. (no programing devices needed).

So anybody know where to buy proggrammed with "SIM-EMU 6.01" cards ?

Nice holidays to All ;-)

zhenboy
17-01-2006, 11:48 AM
Hi guys

I've managed to clone sim cards from China Mobile, Unicom and some other asian network providers...

Now Im working on cloning sims from Vodafone UK.

It seems that I cant get the Ki... (I use Sim Scan 5.01)

Can anyone tell me why I cant find Ki from Vodafone UK sims?

Thanks a lot...

imoi
27-01-2006, 01:39 PM
Anybody here use this cloned sim card except as a backup?

What are its other uses?

Can it be used as a dual sim?

feraamorim
01-02-2006, 11:21 AM
Hello All,

I bought a SIM-READER, and after getting IMSI and Ki from my v1 chip, I´d like to sell it. I live in Brazil. If you are interested, plz email me: [email protected]

Thks.

nasir shiwani
24-02-2006, 02:59 AM
dears
any body can tell me which IC inside in our sim card as that company provide us and another one thing some cards comp128-v2 can't extract (ki) like vodafone how can we get (ki) i 've already try sim_scan v2.01 which software can do this operation succesfully bcoz if we can't extract ki from new sim cards cloning is useless for us i am living in karachi and i hear from somebody they said some people clone telenor and warid who's that i don't know but if they are visiting here please share with us sorry my english is weak

aabowath
25-02-2006, 08:15 AM
hi there
can any one tell me what type of sim card is this.i have Rogers Wireless Sim Card(Canada).some sim card are "GSM 64k and
32k sim card".can any one tell me what type of sim card is this for Rogers Wireless.is it 64k ir 32k.pls let me know.thx
8)

tonymobile
27-05-2006, 05:49 PM
1 For ki and imsi extraction use simscan
2 For building hex files for flash and eeprom use sim_emu for silvercards, twinsim or kissme or some prog like that for goldcard.
3 Burn flash and eeprom to card with Icprog or whatever soft you like.

Note: I haven't build Dejans schematic myself, so I really can't help you out with that.

-=K=-

Hi!
and for 128k sims? (Comp128 v2)

Hehehe

GUANA
28-05-2006, 10:32 PM
SIM-EMU CONFIGURATOR-LIGTS HERE http://sim-emu-gsm-clon.nm.ru

GUANA
28-05-2006, 10:41 PM
sim-emu configurator-lights http://config-emulytor.narod.ru

vimafeje
30-05-2006, 10:26 AM
Hi to all,
i just want to share this with you:
if you need to clone a comp128 V2 SIM card, you must know some things;

-It's impossible to clone this SIM (comp128 V2)!

-how to solve this:
you must tell your operator that you have a phone or car radio whith gsm function or anything else whit GSM function, and this cant read your SIM card, if they don't know what to do, sugest them to change your card to an older one!

It's work to me!!!!
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