Some interesting news about the new nokia phones

[Murda_INC]

i have just been told by a mate who writes software for nokia and who knows all about the new upcoming nokias
and they has just informed me that there is no point buying the new nokias i.e. 6600

for this reason and this reason alone

THEY ARE THE SAME HARDWARE PROPERTIES AS THE ONES BEFORE EXCEPT FOR SOME NEW PLASTIC MOLDING ON THE CHASSIS, the only difference is some minor add ons

This is the defiante truth

for example
The 6600 is exactly the same as the 3650 hardware wise, except for a couple of mods, an aparant DOUBLET LENS and video zoom

if you wait, there will be a program out for the 7650 and 3650 with video zoom, and plus, the new nokias u wanna wait for are comin out next year, towards feburary i think

SO I AM TELLING YOU NOW, DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT ISNT WORTH IT

[soft]

Gi get a grip of your self... !!
First : If u have somthing, give the correct info, NOT guessing crap.!!
"an aparant DOUBLET LENS and video zoom" We all know it vill be a SW zoom, so what ?
"if you wait, there will be a program out for the 7650 and 3650 with video zoom, and plus"
Photografer ++ , no big thing.
"THEY ARE THE SAME HARDWARE PROPERTIES AS THE ONES BEFORE EXCEPT FOR SOME NEW PLASTIC MOLDING ON THE CHASSIS, the only difference is some minor add ons"
Yes WE ALL KNOW !, but it is based upon the new os 7.0
So this allone, with the keypad layout is reson enough to go for it !!

Kim

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[Wouwz]

Well, you certaintly changed my mind i never thought about it that much, but ur right i better w8 4 the new phones to come out or i'll buy the same phone with a different housing and a MMC.

Kinda lame.

Any new on the Specs of the new NOKIAs???

[nikitaaa]

hey but u know wat..i went to a pc fair thing today and they were selling a new pda cum phone..which is really cool..but i dunno the real pda specs..ill just say some brief stuffs

pda functions
260k colours
sd/mmc memory
camera
pda ver 4.1 if not mistaken..

its less than rm2000 which is around 300+ pounds...

do u think its a good deal ???

[Wouwz]

dunno, and i rather stick with NOKIA the most people i know own one and it has the best services.

But it's always worth a look, what's the name of this PDA?

[adnanb]

Originally posted by soft
Gi get a grip of your self... !!
First : If u have somthing, give the correct info, NOT guessing crap.!!
"an aparant DOUBLET LENS and video zoom" We all know it vill be a SW zoom, so what ?
"if you wait, there will be a program out for the 7650 and 3650 with video zoom, and plus"
Photografer ++ , no big thing.
"THEY ARE THE SAME HARDWARE PROPERTIES AS THE ONES BEFORE EXCEPT FOR SOME NEW PLASTIC MOLDING ON THE CHASSIS, the only difference is some minor add ons"
Yes WE ALL KNOW !, but it is based upon the new os 7.0
So this allone, with the keypad layout is reson enough to go for it !!

Kim

"

hi
what is Photografer ++ ? and where can i dl it?
thx

[Wouwz]

Check the Yahoo Groups

[adnanb]

Photografer ++ = Photographer.zip Photographer, Nice program ???

[Wouwz]

Kinda nice, i prefer CameraFX though.

Much more functions and options

[Dumbo]

HI!

Murda, quite interesting point of view! I have been wondering are there any great developments and advantages which N6600 offers to us...

My first Nokia was Mobira "The Gorba, The Brick" model.:p

Actually, can anyone tell me why should I get N6600?
Maybe fancy outlook is one reason enough.

3G...EDGE...6600 SPECS?

Comments?8)

Dumbo

[whipit]

You forgot to mention one very important difference (for me anyway), the 6600 lcd display will support 60,000+ colors as oppose to the 3650's 4000+ color dispay. This means the display will be clearer, crisper, and more vibrant.

[Dumbo]

Hi!

Right! That is one GOOD reason. First we had BMP, then GIF->JPEG, and finally 65,536-color TFT display:)

Dumb

[Darla]

I think it depends on one's personal preference. I love my 3650 but it is kind of big and I would like to have something smaller but has the same features, if not better, than my 3650. I always stick with Nokia's and I would definately be getting the 6600.

[ll627]

I think your buddy has missed the point or is a total ret*rd.

Of course some components are identical with the 3650. Any PC has similar components than the one before or after. Just go to Apple, or HP website. Yes the OS looks the same, but if you look closely it is not.

As most mentionned, the 6600 has a better screen, a better processor, a smaller body, a new camera module, a new graphic processor/module and the OS is Symbian 7.0

If you still consider that it is the same thing as the 3650, you have to tell me why.

[Alinus]

Stick with the topic please and avoid epitets like :retard" or others.
if not i'll close the thread.

[nikitaaa]

its called xplore g18
and the size..unbelievable..
almost the same as 8250!!!!
and cost less than p800 and more than 7650

[Murda_INC]

if you lot cant be arsed to believe me then fine

but this is coming from a guy who has SEEN all the new nokias that are coming out, he knows the new capabilities of them and what they will contain, he has seen what the 6600 is like and he knows the software and hardware that is on it, thats why he told me not to bother.i now know and personally i wont be buying a 6600 as i would like one of the new nokias as they sound a hell of a lot better than the 6600

@Soft, im not guessing anything thank you very much, i am going by what my mate has said, he goes to sweden/finland for jobs to do with nokia, he writes software for them (even 3g!!) and i think he knows alot more than you on this subject, so if u wanna buy a 6600 and spend shit loads on something that is close enough the same as the 3650 apart from some of the stuff i mentioned then go ahead, waste your money, im only trying to help
so what if its got a more clearer screen, my 7650 does me fine til i get a 3650

i know what nokia has invested in so i am definately waiting til next year to change my phone

"with the keypad layout is reson enough to go for it"

oooh big deal its got a standard keypad layout, i guess i should go for almost everysingle mobile on the market sa they have them

"but it is based upon the new os 7.0" it maybe "based" but it is still OS 6.0!!
the hardware capabilities are the same exceot for the new screen and doublet lens, why buy something that is almost the same as something else but more expensive??

its like me going to buy, lets say a subaru impreza turbo (these arnt the exact figures, just an example) which has 350 BHP for £25,000 when i could have a Mitsubishi Evolution 6 which also has 350 BHP for £20,000
both are turbo'd, both are 4 wheel drive, but are the same speed but they have different chassis and body work, if you know what im on about

[soft]

Ok Basicly u have 2 statments:
1.The 6600 is exactly the same as the 3650 hardware wise, except for a couple of mods, an aparant DOUBLET LENS and video zoom.
Wrong. NO DOUBLET LENS and video zoom, just some new SOFTWARE !!

2.if you wait, there will be a program out for the 7650 and 3650 with video zoom.
what on earth r u talking about ??, what program ?

AND noone ever said the 6600 would be anyting more than the press told us in the first place. We DO KNOW what the 6600 is, no problem, we know it is a 3650 in a new and better housing, with normal size, and key layout. AND with OS7, and some new sw options. That is PERFECTLY OK we want that !!

[Darla]

Originally posted by Murda_INC
if you lot cant be arsed to believe me then fine

but this is coming from a guy who has SEEN all the new nokias that are coming out, he knows the new capabilities of them and what they will contain, he has seen what the 6600 is like and he knows the software and hardware that is on it, thats why he told me not to bother.i now know and personally i wont be buying a 6600 as i would like one of the new nokias as they sound a hell of a lot better than the 6600

@Soft, im not guessing anything thank you very much, i am going by what my mate has said, he goes to sweden/finland for jobs to do with nokia, he writes software for them (even 3g!!) and i think he knows alot more than you on this subject, so if u wanna buy a 6600 and spend shit loads on something that is close enough the same as the 3650 apart from some of the stuff i mentioned then go ahead, waste your money, im only trying to help
so what if its got a more clearer screen, my 7650 does me fine til i get a 3650

i know what nokia has invested in so i am definately waiting til next year to change my phone

"with the keypad layout is reson enough to go for it"

oooh big deal its got a standard keypad layout, i guess i should go for almost everysingle mobile on the market sa they have them

"but it is based upon the new os 7.0" it maybe "based" but it is still OS 6.0!!
the hardware capabilities are the same exceot for the new screen and doublet lens, why buy something that is almost the same as something else but more expensive??

its like me going to buy, lets say a subaru impreza turbo (these arnt the exact figures, just an example) which has 350 BHP for £25,000 when i could have a Mitsubishi Evolution 6 which also has 350 BHP for £20,000
both are turbo'd, both are 4 wheel drive, but are the same speed but they have different chassis and body work, if you know what im on about

There is really no reason to get hostile or upset. You can't force your opinions or the opinions of your friend on other people. It's not like we are completely convinced that the 6600 is the Best phone that Nokia has but it is OUR opinion. If we choose to spend our money on it that is no loss to you. We appreciate the feedback and some of the members on this forum have close contact with Nokia people also. So you are not the only one.

[Unique]

the new nokias u wanna wait for are comin out next year, towards feburary i think

Why not.... April.... June... or even december? We can always say this, if i did I would still have my Nokia 1260. The point is, if we did all wait as we knew something better was coming out... we would all have old mobiles. Something will replace the 6600 and something after that will replace it. But where is the fun in waiting? Work hard, buy as many handsets as you can, when you and live happly.



i have just been told by a mate who writes software for nokia and who knows all about the new upcoming nokias
and they has just informed me that there is no point buying the new nokias i.e. 6600


Unless your friend is in testing, R&D, or VERY high up in Nokia, he will only know 1 or 2 new handsets. S/w engineers know very little.

John

[Darla]

Originally posted by Unique



Unless your friend is in testing, R&D, or VERY high up in Nokia, he will only know 1 or 2 new handsets. S/w engineers know very little.

John

Lol, I heard the same that too but I didn't want to say anything.

[nikitaaa]

hey guys..come on...he is just trying to give us some advise on something he has heard..why all point the gun at him..i mean..im not a fren of him but i just feel that he has the courtesy of giving us some information he feels is good to share..so we should at least just thank him instead of screwing each other around .. also..its up to ourown to decide whether should we get phones we adore not by force rite..so all..shake hands n sleep tight alrite :)

[soft]

He should not SCREEEAM out the info then, been alittle more modest would be a good start.. :-)

[Murda_INC]

@Nikitaa
TY, thats all i was trying to do

@Soft
Well i wouldnt scream if everyone wasnt telling me that what i was saying is completely and utterly wrong, if the people who are saying im wrong have actually seen the 6600 and what it actually contains and whats used inside the phone which proves im wrong, then i would back down
but as no one has actually seen one how can some one judge what ive said? as they are only going by what people have read, not viewed/seen
my mate HAS seen the 6600 and what is inside it so im going by what he has said

and as for the new nokias, lets just say they will be many months infront of the competition, as there is one 5 letter word which describes what nokia has decided to build the new models on ;)

[evobit]

I know what you're saying about the 6600 - and has been said before it's all about marketing in incremental steps.

Nokia are smart, they know that a lot of people with the 7650 will buy the 6600 - it has a better camera, better screen, and a memcard. That's quite a decent improvement, but technology wise it's nothing great.

I will either buy the siemens sx1, or wait for something a lot better from Nokia :)


Originally posted by Murda_INC
and as for the new nokias, lets just say they will be many months infront of the competition, as there is one 5 letter word which describes what nokia has decided to build the new models on ;)

and what word are you talkin about? :)

[Wouwz]

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*i think*

[saracg]

First of all thank you for sharing your knowledge about 6600 cause i'm thinking about change my phone nowadays.

And i want to ask a question to you:
i have 7650 now should i change my phone to 3650 or still wait for 6600 or newer phone cause i'm bored about memory peoblem.:confused:

[14344]

go wait and buy the 6600........................................if you dont like it...........................................sell it...............................................periods...............................work so you can afford what this world of ours can offer...............................

:-D :grin: :D

[Murda_INC]

id buy the 3650 TBH, it'll be dirt cheap wen the 6600 comes out, the technology hasnt changed from 3650-6600 really, its the same stuff but with diff screen, cam etc

and no "NOKIA" isnt the word im thinking of, ill give u a hint

it begins with T

when u get it, u will WANT the new nokias from 2004!

[saracg]

thanks murda but i couldn't understand what do you mean?

what is that?

[Simonbwoy]

Ay Murda Inc, aloawe sittin making everyone beg for you to tell us this 5 letter word. Why dont you just say what it is and put everyone outta their misery!!?

[adnanb]

i want the 6600 but i cant wait so i will get the sony erricson t610..

has enyone experince with that phone?

[14344]

i have t610....................................yes its a great and better phone if you will compare it to 7250.............................but not with the s60.............................................just dont mind the camera.................................................

Is the "T" means Tokia???....................................grrrrrrrrr............


:-D :grin: :D

[Darla]

TOUCH

[Murda_INC]

u really wanna know?





























THREE

[Simonbwoy]

The problems that seem to occur with 3 are:

- Shabby network coverage
- Not enough phones on offer
- Not enough people on 3 to be able to make good use of the 'new' features.
- The main component (video messaging) is charged at a stupid rate (50p a minute or something).

I dont really know anything about 3.In your honest opinion do you feel that all these will be cleared up by the launch of 3 for Nokia?

[Murda_INC]

yes as i expect that the produce of 3 by nokia will cause main networks like vodafone orange etc all those networks and foreign ones to update their tariffs to include video calls as like the network 3
So they will be months and months ahead of all the other networks as all nokia are doing at the moment is bringing the same phones out but in different shapes with little differences
Prime example
the 6100 and the 5100
Both exactly the same, same shape, same features apart from the 5100 has a rubber casing , a torch, thermometre etc
Exactly the same phones with minor details
Or updating original phones, the nokia MP3 phone (cant remember the model #) all they have done is bring out the 3300 (or what ever its called) same kinda phone but with color screen and java games etc
and as they are doing this crap sony ericson are catching up, like with the P800 etc
Yeah so nokia have created the prototype of the flip down touch screen phone but isnt that pretty much the same as the P800?!?
So to gain months they are gonna create PROPER new phones

Catch my drift?

[john q]

I've been testing a prototype of the 6600 for two monts now.

There are quite a few differences then earlier Series 60 models like the 7650 and 3650 but nothing new and exciting.

Murda_INC had some points but most of them were false.The 6600 has more built in memory:6MB and by the performance with RAM hogging applications like opera i think it has more RAM too,a problemtic area when it comes to the 3650.

I still haven't measure CPU speed but i think its the same old 104 MHZ arm.

The camera hardware is almost identical,it has digital zoom with the built in camera software,true,but the 7650 and 3650 have that too,try CameraFX or Photographer.

The screen is awesome!!!Even in direct sunlight the visability is striking.Being a Series 60 2.0 and supporting Java MIDP 2.0 is a big advantage.


"but it is based upon the new os 7.0" it maybe "based" but it is still OS 6.0!!

@Murda_INC,do you even know what OS is.Symbian OS v 6.0 was only used on Series 80 devices like the communicator(921X).Symbian OS v 6.1 was used with Series 60 1.X devices like the 7650/3650 and the upcoming Siemens SX1 and the Samsung SGH D700.Symbian OS v7.0 was used with a device runing UIQ like the P800 from Sony Erricson.The 6600 will run on Symbian 7.0s and will have the updated version of the UI,Series 60 2.0.I'm surprised that your developer freind doesn't know all this.

The 6600 is more a 7650 upgrade then a 3650 upgrade.

In the end there are few advantages of having a 6600 but personally,i would go for the SX1 if a Series 60 device was in question.

[Murda_INC]

@Murda_INC,do you even know what OS is

OS is is an ibreviation of Operating system, like windows
The operating system controls the main software/system functions of a computer or hand held computer or even phone and carries out all software and system tasks with help of a GUI (graphical user interface)

I aint stupid, i take I.T A level and Computing A Level!

I wasnt the one who said it was bsaed on OS v7.0, i sed that it was still OS6.0 like the 7650

But you have confirmed that the nokia 6600 is basically a 3650/7650 apart from some differences (i would like to see the screen capablities mind)
And that it is nothing special and that the technology has not evolved on this phone

In the end there are few advantages of having a 6600
I attempted to tell the members this but as per usual if some one has their heart set on a new phone and the bubble is burst they take it out on the bubble popper, as like the 7210, looooods of ppl had their eyes set on this and wen ppl (not ppl necessarily from here but in general) sed it was crap and the resolution was poor and just a crap phone in general and to wait til better phones came out, they lost the plot and started having a go at that person/those ppl!
I was just trying to save ppl money

So i would like to thank you for saying this as 95% of the people in this thread have not believed me Prime example SOFT

Cheers

[soft]

And still, the 6600 IS BASED ON SYMBIAN OS7.0s
and NOT OS6.xxx

[eone]

for me, the only thing that attracted me is its size

[Murda_INC]

SOFT ffs its not OS7.0 that is on the phone tho, cant u read???? ITS OS 6!!!!!!! whether its based on 7 or its not, it is not OS 7 that is on the phone!

[tzeonn]

so, u tellin us our windows 98 second edition is in fact the same ol' windows 98?


its os 7 4 gods sake.

[tzeonn]

reasons i wanna trade my 7650 4 a 6600 :

1) 6 mb internal mem (tt beats ur 3650 too)
2) mmc card (bet its more stable than 3650)
3) video zoom (yea babe...)
4) nicer lay out (i hate 3650 keypad)


of coz, i wun noe if its stable or not yet, coz no one has the official version. wat u say we all wait, and den confirm wat the 6600 has and hasnt?

[Darla]

Nokia 6600 Specs (http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,33211,00.html)

@ Murda

So are you basically saying that Nokia is wrong in posting that its phone is operating on Symbian Operating system 7.0s because its listed as clear as day on Nokia.com.

[john q]

Murdra_INC,Symbian OS v7.0s is a completely new,updated version of Symbian OS although its binary compatible with Symbian OS 6.1 (So is Windows 2000 and Windows XP)there is a whole new set of features and API's and major updates that are not available on Symbian 6.1 which means that app's codec for Symbian 6.1 and Series 60 2.0 should work on the 6600 but not vice versa,app's that will/are coded using Symbian 7.0s API's and features will work on the 6600 but not on the 3650 and 7650.That is why Nokia left backwards compatibility in the form of API wrapers but if the new API's and features are used there will be no compatibility.And finaly,Symbian 7.0s is _ON_ the phone,not Symbian 6.1 and its not OS 7.0 or OS 6.0 its Symbian OS.


tzeonn,you are just another Nokia wannabe.

1.6MB of internal memory doesn't mean much when you have an MMC.
2.MMC card is the same.
3.Video Zoom?Its only 2x.Photographer and CameraFX have zoom.ETI camcorder has Video zoom.
4.Yes,The 3650 keypad sucks :D

[Darla]

You know, based on all this hoopla in this thread, I'm still getting the 6600. Only because of the size and the Symbian. Different phones are targeted towards different markets. I believe someone mentioned earlier about marketing and thats what its about. I like the size, the shape and yes the symbian is a plus no matter what system it is. Some developers are changing their apps to accomodate the 6600 from the 3650/7650 apps so I don't think it would be that hard compatibilty wise. But all in all its a matter of OPINION.

[omarg]

Just a little tid bit I thought I'd add;

Nokia are working on a number of WCDMA handsets, (those which work with the network "three")

With regards to these being 3 months ahead of the competition, that's a little wide of the mark. The first of these handsets is the 6650. It has been dropped by "three" as it has poor battery life and does not support real time video calling. It is also (in my opinion) slow, with an outdated ui and *was* incredibly buggy. If anybody really wants one, they can be picked up at a number of outlets in Japan for under £400 GBP or second hand for under £320.

The handsets due to arrive after the 6650 have yet to be announced, but as mentioned by someone else, you'd have to be very high up in Nokia to know exactly what these are. They're likely to be announced at Cebit '04 next spring, with release soon after. By this time Vodafone and possibly Orange (I don't know much about networks outside of the UK) should be about to go live with their own 3G services. It is highly unlikely that any new handset would be the exclusive domain of three; I'm pretty sure we'll see a Nokia being touted as the flagship handset when each network goes live next year.
Don't forget that NEC, Panasonic, SonyEricsson and Motorola have all already given snippets of information about their forthcoming handsets, all of which are far more impressive than the 6650.

Unless Nokia has something similar to Motorola's V1000 combined with Sony Ericsson's P810 which for some inexplicable reason they've yet to leak/announce, I think its a safe bet to assume that the 6600 will be one of the better handsets around until at least Q2 2004.

[Darla]

Am I correct in understanding that the 6600 will not be released in the US?