Nokia DCT3 calculator .. is it true ?

[Joanorsky]

I was informed that there is in the market a new Nokia DCT3 type calculator.. only by IMEI !!! Just as DCT4 mobile type...


Is this true ? Can anyone confirme this ?

[Mobile Lab]

Thanks n Regards

[AzurA]

yes it does exist
i heard about it too
i saw several ads for remote unlocking dct3 phones
but all of them were with payment...
but u can be sure that it exist..

[Salami1_1]

so not true...
I'm even almost sure DCT3 codes aren't even calculated! (they are same as motorola I think)

But I'm always open minded.. so you saw it? point me the url pls..

WBR

[AzurA]

also, i saw it like a month ago...
i could be wrong, maybe its not what i saw, anyways, il keep looking, but what i do remember is that it was very expensive :( .. :/

[Mobile Lab]

Dct3 unlocking is already free befor year.

dont u see that ..than why u try to find dct3 calculater.

Thanks n Regards

[Salami1_1]

wel some people still can't do it for their own (with cable).. so calculating codes would come in handy.. (or like a nice extra service on my site :) )
so I would like to have it.. but I'm almost certain it does not exists...

WBR

[GSM Super Star]

Since the days when the 3210 was the phone to have people have been looking for DCT3 Unlocking By Code (including me) but know one I have heard of has found any software.

It would be good if someone could get on the case coz unlocking by code is much easier and safer!

[crashynot]

Yes dtc 3 calc is true
caus the network opperrator here uses one for the dtc 3 phone
caus i gote a few code from them already
So there must be one
have unlocked 5110 ,6110 , 6150 , 6210
with code suplyed by network opperator

tony

[bobl]

Yes dtc 3 calc is true caus the network opperrator here uses one for the dtc 3 phone

Nokia owns a dct3 calculator

Network operators own a partial dct3 calculator (Only for their network).

Hence, networks can unlock their own phone.

Simple :)

Of course a dct3 calculator exists, it's just owned and guarded by Nokia :)

Cheers

Bob

[Joanorsky]

Yes.. but i've heard that some griffin version is suposed to come out with this calculation algorithm. Is this true ? Or are just rumors.. ??

And as Bob says
"Of course a dct3 calculator exists, it's just owned and guarded by Nokia" but the real good question (the one 1000000 dollar question) is : Is this cracked already on the web ?

[MrWolfman]

no its not true there is no dct3 codes for unlocking

no you cannot get codes from any network to unlock a dct3 phone
the case is and has always been that you have to take it to be unlocked via a lead officially from a nokia service centre but as we know every market place does this now also

the only reason dct4 phones can be unlocked via codes is because the networks in most countries have been forced by the telephone bodies to allow people to unlock there phones

the networkdidnt want phones to be able to be unlocked period but as they have been forced they needed a way to unlock the phones easy and also to charge for the service

this is why only dct4 phones can be unlocked via code
dct4 was made with the feature built into the phone

and dct3 NEVER will be dont this way
before anyone person argues with me show me evidance to back it up

[ahib]

@wolfman what are you saying that net operators canNOT unlock DCT3 via codes -what makes you say this? nets & manufacturers CAN unlock via code any handset-also motorola&seimens do NOT need input of a provider code-there IS DCT3 unlock codes gen as there has been for dct2 previously just as there is for dct4
was #pw+xxxxxxxxxx+1/2/3/4#
previously 10 digits unlock code! dct4 15 digits.

[crashynot]

OH YEAH
TELL MrWolfman he looks like he knows nouthing on unlocking
phones
he should go and work at nokia
like i do and then he will learn something
and stop being an idiot
thanks ahib
for backing me with this info for a fact its true

thanks

[MrWolfman]

im an idoit

im not trying to pass off a renamed dct4nck.exe as a dct3 unlocker you idiot

who do u think u are kidding here with your backwards behaviour
posting bad codes

and now this
http://nokiafree.org/forums/t39226/s.html

trying to pass off some elses work as your own
and even lieing saying its a dct3 calc too
open it with any hex editor and u can see its dct4.exe from cyberdogs calc

he will be pleased you are bad naming his work too

total noob u r

[MrWolfman]

Originally posted by ahib
@wolfman what are you saying that net operators canNOT unlock DCT3 via codes -what makes you say this? nets & manufacturers CAN unlock via code any handset-also motorola&seimens do NOT need input of a provider code-there IS DCT3 unlock codes gen as there has been for dct2 previously just as there is for dct4
was #pw+xxxxxxxxxx+1/2/3/4#
previously 10 digits unlock code! dct4 15 digits.

thats news to me i would need to see evidance of this

[ahib]

of course its true!since the intro of gsm handset the manufacturers allowed the option to Net/Service Provider to lock the handset-be it for protection of subsidy or prevention of customers putting competitors SIMs in handset. the manufacturers have relevent soft to unlock via code their handsets. The Nets also have specific soft that can do this-sometimes the Nets have to send request form to manufacturer to get the unlock code(s) e.g SHARP corporation. BTW anyone can test this out on DCT3 try #pw+1234567890+1 if it displays 'code error' then needs correct code to unlock (or unlock via MBUS cable) if it displays 'phone or SIM was not restricted' this means has been unlocked(or is generic model)-be it via code or cable! old gen look for splnokia.exe BUT this is NOT DCT3-no ones goin to put DCT3 up here as evidence;)

[MrWolfman]

i just called birmingham uk nokia service centre

they said
dct3 phone cannot be remote unlocked a cable is required to unlock all dct3 model phones

the feature us only build into dct4 and later phones

please show me any information to backup what you are telling us
its great info if its true
but lookat the post above with the dct3 unlocker that crashynot is trying to pass off
its people like that that make this look like its just not possible
and i have never nver ever heard of anyone doing an unlock via this method

[ahib]

@wolfman did you try on any DCT3 handset?

#pw+1234567890+1
#pw+xxxxxxxxxx+2
#pw+xxxxxxxxxx+3
#pw+xxxxxxxxxx+4 (previously 4 lock levels DCT4= 7 levels) this is the evidence you need!- P.S is Nokia Service center (Birmingham) authorised to unlock handsets for general public? even service center HQ in peterborough is NOT authorised to do that for general public!

[MrWolfman]

ok just tried it that is not the network unlock that is the sim unlock
that code does work but only to unlock the phone to use any simcard on the same network
you know when you put a lock on so you can only use your simcard in the phone
that does not let you unlock the phone from the network im afraid
i just tried it and it failed
it unlocked the simlock but not the network lock


no they would not unlock at the service centre they are not allowed but they gave me the infomation

[MrWolfman]

its interesting very
but that would not make it remote unlocking would it
that would be a standard code for all phones

seems amazing know one knows this yet if true
let me get another phone to test the one i tested is not ideal

im still very scepticle but
you are showing me something that is at least worth listening too
which is more than i can say for crashynot above

let me get back to u on this one
u have got me listening

[ahib]

look #pw+xxxxxxxxxx+1 (or2 or 3 or 4) the 10 'X's are the digits supplied by the generator-just like splnokia.exe & dct4calc! I got to leave this topic now as I spent too much time already;)

[MrWolfman]

ok tried it on another 2 phones now and it doesnt work mate
u still need to show us working evidance sorry
but at the moment if it has not been done then its not possible
show me someone who has had it done
show me a site that does it
show me some working codes
anything else must be guessing sorry or second hand info
show me a program anything or working codes

[wumpus]

It is possible to unlock DCT3 phones with a code, but possibly the codes are stored as-is in the phones EEPROM and compared. That would make it impossible to devise the algorithm used to calculate them by looking at the firmware.
(if that was possible, it would have been done a long time ago and DCT3 generators would be very common)

[MrWolfman]

thats what i thought
plus if the code was built into the eprom wouldnt it mean they all had the same code
or would they program a code into each fone and have a databse with the unlock code for the phone?

even then people would have heard of a code to unlock dct3 yet i have never known anyone do it

[wumpus]

They already program quite some different codes into each phone its (emulated) EEPROM: IMEI, serial#, manufacturing month. The unlocking codes could be stored there just as well.
(it would really be the only explanation for the lack of DCT3 generators)

[MrWolfman]

yes i agree that this is possible

but
if such a thing existed it would by now be common knowledge
plus it does not explain why no one has unlocked via this method

i dont know one person who has said i unlocked my dct3 phone via code not 1
apart from the 2 comments above

i bet u dont know anyone who has done it either
not 1

[GSM Super Star]

i PAID £35 FOR VODAFONE UK TO UNLOCK MY 3310 A FEW YEARS BACK AND THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT DID IT ALL THROUGH EMAIL. THE CODES THEY SEND ME WERE THE SAME AS DCT4 CODES.

THEY WORK THE SAME AS THEY ASKED FOR MY IMEI / MODEL. THE MUST JUST BE CALCULATED DIFFERENTLY.

MANY THANKS

[Joanorsky]

Originally posted by GSM Super Star
i PAID £35 FOR VODAFONE UK TO UNLOCK MY 3310 A FEW YEARS BACK AND THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT DID IT ALL THROUGH EMAIL. THE CODES THEY SEND ME WERE THE SAME AS DCT4 CODES.

THEY WORK THE SAME AS THEY ASKED FOR MY IMEI / MODEL. THE MUST JUST BE CALCULATED DIFFERENTLY.

MANY THANKS

Yep.. i also confirm that here in Portugal. Same deal.. so generated or not they exist !!

[MrWolfman]

at most there are codes built into the eprom of the phone
they will not be generated codes but set in a database with the network operators

so this is not remote unlocking
you will not be able to make an algo to generate the codes
the only way to get the code for a dct3 phone will be via calling them up and giving the network info on your phone

as this thread is called dct3 calc real or not u have proven that its not true
unless u phone your network and pay u willnot get a code as they are not remote generated or calced or anything like that
they are set and built into the phone

[ahib]

as bobl states & I agree!except ppl other than NOKia do have it BUT NoT for free!
Originally posted by bobl


Nokia owns a dct3 calculator

Network operators own a partial dct3 calculator (Only for their network).

Hence, networks can unlock their own phone.

Simple :)

Of course a dct3 calculator exists, it's just owned and guarded by Nokia :)

Cheers

Bob

[GeeZuZz]

MrWolfman:

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you (and the service centre you called) are wrong.


the feature us only build into dct4 and later phones

The function is there in DCT-2 phones too. If you search the internet you'll find DCT-2 mastercode generators.

I don't think it's very logic to use mastercodes in DCT-2's and DCT-4's, but not DCT-3's.

The only difference between DCT-3 and 4 mastercodes must be the algo and the amount of digits used.

If you doubt it is possible to unlock it using the keypad, you can check these text strings in the flash file:



20 COMM SIM restriction on
21 COMM \x0ACode error
22 COMM Not\x0Aallowed
23 COMM SIM restriction off
24 COMM SIM restriction pending

[crashynot]

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but i did not call a service centre
i work at one
And im one of the top tech of nokia service center
and i have been for more than 4 years now


its a pitty i cant post it on here for every one to use
caus it might cost my Job
sorry about that


Tony

[wumpus]

There is not a single doubt that it *is* possible to unlock DCT3 phones with a code (the *pw+ stuff is in the flash image, and as GeeZuZz mentioned, in the PMM)

The only curious thing is that there are no DCT3 generators around, while a lot of people have reverse engineered the firmware of those beasts.

So, the question that remains is "why didn't anyone find the algo used for generating unlock codes". (while other things like FAID and checksums have been cracked a long time ago)

I don't have time to look at this (enough more interesting reversing to do), and anyone with a sane mind would use a cable anyway :-) But it is strange..

[gsm community]

mr wolfman

sorry you are not right in this case

dct-3 is similar to dct-4, but as the calculation of crypted checksum for dct-3 was cracked, there was no reason to do the same for pkd-1sa+ dongle and tbd-4 operator box

algo and key was the same for faid, IMEI and SP checksum calculation in dct-3 phones, only different entering point in hash table was used - so breaking FAID and FLS-2D dongle gives all information to dejan kaljevic who did the job 2 years ago

that's the reason for not having a dct-3 calculator

for dct-4 the calculator only exists because of cracked tdb-6 operator box

you can find all information in old posts here and in www.gsmcity.de board