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slikmik
24-07-2002, 11:08 PM
This is VERY cool people!

Get ya screen down to the bear minimum and gently pry off the thin film covering it and turn it around so the screen goes dark, next fit back together and vwalla!!!

It looks AWESOME!!

Ive seen them for sale for like £25 - what a rip off! Do it ya self


Mike

Free knowledge = Perfect World

welshwizard
25-07-2002, 12:20 AM
yeah, but if u turn the foil around, 90 degrees is it?, coz the screens are rectangle, dont u have 2 stripes down either side?

cprafferty
25-07-2002, 12:46 AM
or can buy a 5 cm (thats going to a 7110) piece of the plactic from www.logosunlimited.co.uk
for £6.99
I can say they were fast and my 6210 looks SWEET

NokDoc
25-07-2002, 01:15 PM
Hi,

My effective screen pixels = 84*48
Did the sides not in effective screen also become black now?

Mr. WelshWizard,
I think not turn it but to place upside down.

NokDoc

NLOGOMASTER
25-07-2002, 03:43 PM
there another way we usually make it here
"CRYSTALIZED LCD"

remove the back coating of the lcd carefully and it will be almost transparent,once u place back your lcd,the lcd holder will give the crystal effect background on your display,

enzo
25-07-2002, 04:29 PM
Hi,

why don't use a high-resolution background image?

Print a nice picture on a transparent "plastic-paper" ("Kopierfolie" in german) in the size of the white background-plastic of your phone and put it between the display and its holder.
Or you can print it on standard paper and replace it with the white plastic "thing".

sorry for my english, but I hope the idea is great!

Have someone more ideas for simple Display enhanchment?
Post!

greetingz by
[enzo]

slikmik
25-07-2002, 04:34 PM
You have to turn it 90 degrees not simply over it will not work
this is because it is a polarised lens - i did it in physics ;-)

its like rows of lines

----------------------------
----------------------------
----------------------------
----------------------------

and the ones on the screen are the same way (i think)

when you turn it 90 degrees the lines are crossed and thus
it makes it darker and oposite - hard to explain really but thats the theory behind it im sure!

I did it on my 3210 and the two slits at the side caused by it being rectangular - are literally invisible - ofcourse they are simply greeny coloured but it looks overall very good
Mike

GeeZuZz
26-07-2002, 02:49 AM
I read that it can't be done on a 3310, beacuse it is not rectangular. Is this true? is 3310 the same as 3210?

liteFun
26-07-2002, 11:30 AM
hmm.. can you do examples to web that every one knows what you mean?

some calculators it had to flip that plastic to make display "negative", ie. dark background and light characters.

____ <- plastic
------ <- lcd

so that surface near lcd turned to "up" (and surface near user went near lcd).. i hope you understand what i mean.

so how in mobile phone will that be done?
turning foil or whatever 90 degrees?

like +-------+
| |
+-------+
to
+----+
| |
| |
+----+

that way or what?

edit: doesn't look good but i hope you understand it :)

Bossworld
26-07-2002, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by enzo
Hi,

why don't use a high-resolution background image?

Print a nice picture on a transparent "plastic-paper" ("Kopierfolie" in german) in the size of the white background-plastic of your phone and put it between the display and its holder.
Or you can print it on standard paper and replace it with the white plastic "thing".

sorry for my english, but I hope the idea is great!

Have someone more ideas for simple Display enhanchment?
Post!

greetingz by
[enzo]

Would you happen to have a picture? :D

enzo
26-07-2002, 04:15 PM
Hi Bossworld, do you mean a pic to insert or a pic how to do it?

Simply go here:
http://www.cool-sms.de/workshop/display_hintergrund/display_hintergrund_bilder.php

greetingz
[enzo]

2tz
28-07-2002, 05:45 AM
here in our country, we had that fad for sometime now.
inverted lcds, dependent on the backlight (led's), you can have it purple, green, blue, orange etc.

about the picture behind the lcd, yap, you can use transparencies, good thing to have a white backlight(led) to showoff the image behind the lcd, we call it ACETATES.

:D :-D :D

GeeZuZz
28-07-2002, 04:48 PM
Have anyone got any pictures of the phone with inverted LCD?


i have blue leds in display - if the display is inverted (black) won't the light almost disappear?

slikmik
28-07-2002, 05:45 PM
Hiya folks,

Sorry these pictures are fairly crap but they give an idea of how they look anyway

In fact my inverted 3210 is pretty much impossible to use during the day so soon im getting those BRIGHT white leds in it to see if that helps :)


Mike

edoy
29-07-2002, 11:20 AM
i have here a polarizer that will invert your lcd image only in the dark area like dim room or low light area and your lcd looks normal if placed in the area where light is available it's look like magic, no invertion will be seen in the light area and it will be inverted only in the dark. if interested mail me at : [email protected] or sms: 09173353820

Sdriver^
30-07-2002, 06:16 AM
Thanks for the tip on: www.logosunlimited.co.uk

But I'd like to know, does anyone else know any vendors? And if so, what's the best price? Does anyone know where to get larger sheets of the film? Perhaps if they were self adhesive it may help too.

Any info is good info. Thanks :D

Take care,
Kris

slikmik
30-07-2002, 08:11 PM
Hiya peeps,

This film sounds amazingly cool

Where about do you get it - logosunlimited.co.uk????

Cant seem to find it can someone point it out or give a link please?
Thanks! :)

Oh by the way, for example the screens on that site are like £25 but the BEST BEST BEST shop to get cool mobile stuff from is

---->>>> www.M-99.com <<<------

for example the screens are like £7 - free delivery
plus got any broken parts or whole phones??
Sell them to the guy who owns m-99 and he'll give fairly good prices

Mike

rosbud
31-07-2002, 11:27 AM
Do u have a jpg proceed? !!! for more expliaction!!
thx

Bossworld
12-08-2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by enzo
Hi Bossworld, do you mean a pic to insert or a pic how to do it?

Simply go here:
http://www.cool-sms.de/workshop/display_hintergrund/display_hintergrund_bilder.php

greetingz
[enzo]

Thanks :). So i just open up the LCD, and put the acetate (transparency) paper behind somehow? (i'll wait for the page to load ;))

Any ideas how to invert a calculator display lol? Or same method as phone?

slikmik
12-08-2002, 06:58 PM
calculator just turn over the front plastic bit - totally 180 degrees upside down

used to do it in maths when i were bored lol!

Mike

Bossworld
08-09-2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by slikmik
calculator just turn over the front plastic bit - totally 180 degrees upside down

used to do it in maths when i were bored lol!

Mike

lol that's what liam told me. But my calculator is this scientific casio, and the front plastic seems to be stuck to the screen? Should i flip this, or does it have a foil :eek: ?

Also, is it still readable lol?

Yolly Zubrick
08-09-2002, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by 2tz
here in our country, we had that fad for sometime now.
inverted lcds, dependent on the backlight (led's), you can have it purple, green, blue, orange etc.

about the picture behind the lcd, yap, you can use transparencies, good thing to have a white backlight(led) to showoff the image behind the lcd, we call it ACETATES.

:D :-D :D

Hehehehe, inverting LCD is a stone age technology here in the Philippines, we've been doing it for ages. And that goes for the background image too. Not to mention the flashing keypad and LCD lights. All that for a few dollars. :D

Bomans
09-09-2002, 02:23 PM
is an iverted screen possible on a nokia 8210???

if yezs, how do i turn it.

thx

Bomans
09-09-2002, 05:49 PM
well, so far this worked :)

Bomans
09-09-2002, 11:11 PM
:cool:

Bomans
10-09-2002, 04:30 PM
for those who would like to know

these pictures:

Bomans
10-09-2002, 04:30 PM
:)

Bomans
10-09-2002, 04:38 PM
:)

slikmik
10-09-2002, 05:33 PM
Hiya im going to try the picture on the film behind the screen idea sounds fun

I had a link to a german site i think that had some amazing pics for the plastic - but ive lost it

Anyone have any links to pics to go behind the screen???


Mike

Shidoshi
10-09-2002, 07:25 PM
Hmm...

Scroll up, there is a link to a site ;)

Regards,
-Dave

Veron
16-09-2002, 01:48 PM
i have got my screen ready to take the film off, but i dont know where it is, the back of the screen has got a silvery film on it and the front has got a thicker film on it......this thicker film doesnt seem to come off

for the record my phone is an 8310

has anyone got any photos of them removing this film

any help is goooooood:D :D :D

Cheers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slikmik
17-09-2002, 05:27 PM
You really have to tug on that film on the front of the screen mate
may seem messy but looks good in the end


Mike

Burb
18-11-2002, 06:46 PM
I have a Nokia 5165 phone with super white leds.... I would like to see a color pic someone has already installed in a phone.... before I tare mine apart... Seems like the writing would be hard to see ???? Thanks.....

Veron
18-11-2002, 07:35 PM
I couldnt be bothered messing up my 8310 as my contract only had a month left to run, I decided to leave the 8310 behind and got the new 7210 with a colour screen, i have had it 1 month and 1 day and it is great, can't wait for the camera add on to come out for it!!!!!:D :D :D

fixmup
25-04-2003, 04:33 AM
thanx guys-the info on doin the lcds is much appreciated,as is most of the info I gleen off this site-can't wait to share something that I know with someone:D :D :D

Blueice
25-04-2003, 01:20 PM
My 7110...

Furgo
27-04-2003, 06:29 PM
here is an excellent site for back ground images, shows several types of phones with background images on them, including nokia siemens etc

http://www.nokia99.de.vu/

click on handy hintergrund for the background images an a couple of guides for fittin them, 3210 83xx/65xx an the 6210/6310

to get the best effect it is recomended to use white led's an to bridge them to give you the highest possible intesity, i have done several phones with these images, rangin from colour to black an white.

http://www.beepworld2.de/memberdateien/members21/nokia99/3310-1.jpg

http://home.media-n.de/stefan66/6510-4.jpg

http://home.media-n.de/stefan66/3510%20-%2001.jpg

http://home.media-n.de/stefan66/t66.jpg

http://www.beepworld.de/memberdateien/members21/nokia99/sl45-1.jpg

for guides on invertion techniques, go to these sites

www.umbau-kult.de [ click on umbau tips ]
www.blue-backlight.de [ click on con anleitung ]
www.te-elektronik.com [ jus read the side an look for displayfolie
www.jbphonetech.info ( yay uk based )

enjoy

for led's i recomend either www.jbphonetech.info or www.bluled.co.uk there is also another contender but dont know much about them www.screenz.co.uk

www.fatladz.com is also another reputable installer an has an excellent rep

slikmik
27-04-2003, 06:39 PM
Wow

Thanks FURGO - great pics and links - very good of you

The phones sure do look very appealing with the pictures

May give it a try some time

Do they look any good with blue leds instead of white do you recken?? Any pics?

Cheers again
Mike

Furgo
27-04-2003, 06:51 PM
Really any other colour than white is not recomended for colour images, although black an white images do work, if u are usin black an white images, try not to get that much black on the image as it kinda kills the display, the text colour bein black an all, outlines are much better, for instance you draw a pic dont colour or shade it scan it an then print it, jus an example, or some of the pics you can get off the disney website that you can print an colour in.

http://home.media-n.de/stefan66/3510%20-%2002.jpg blue led's installed in a 3510

http://www.beepworld2.de/memberdateien/members21/nokia99/8210-2.jpg orange 8210

http://metku.net/modgallery/images/341_2.jpg 3310 0805 ;) blue led's installed

slikmik
27-04-2003, 06:55 PM
Excellent nice one furgo ;)

Will get some images and give it a go in my 33150 with hyper blues

Regards

Mike

Furgo
27-04-2003, 06:57 PM
http://www.umbau-kult.de/image.php?file=beispiel/beispielbilder/d_1039596062.jpg Super Blue led's installed in 7110 with inverted LCD

here is an excellent show of how the screen will look inverted with the lights off

http://www.umbau-kult.de/image.php?file=beispiel/beispielbilder/d_1028068365.jpg

http://www.umbau-kult.de/image.php?file=beispiel/beispielbilder/d_1041555984.jpg

inverted 8310:p :D

Furgo
27-04-2003, 07:08 PM
all these are good, but if you really want to do something interestin, thn how about puttin a 8210 into a genuine 8850 shell or an 8310/6510 into a genuine 8910 casing, Titanium or Black

http://www.blueleds.de/bilder2/1b.jpg take a look at the battery an signal bars ;)

http://www.blueleds.de/bilder2/2b.jpg look familiar

http://www.blueleds.de/bilder2/3b.jpg

http://www.umbau-kult.de/image.php?file=beispiel/beispielbilder/d_1050789590.jpg

8210 in a genuine 8850 housing


here is the original link to the 8910 convertion page

http://www.telefon-treff.de/showthread.php?threadid=16762

aggro666
29-04-2003, 08:49 AM
the 8210@8910 fakecovers look very nice, but you should take n modded Fullbackup with changed menu pictures like the 8910

so check this out: www.handytuningshop.de/8910.fls and give feedback ( the file was modded by Darkpower from www.darkpower.de / www.megamobil.de/wbb , so the copyright&tribut belongs to him)



(sorry for my bad english);)

Lakokabalu
29-04-2003, 11:23 AM
halo guys, i have a new trick to make the inverted lcd more cool, how bout instead the color of the lcd is something purple or blue, u can make it green or orange without changing the color of the backlights..just simply place a scotch tape on the lcd film and wallah... its done....or make a unique design on the film something like a puzzle, theres a part of it thats inverted and some are not,....just cut and paste folks...its very simple but you should have lots of gots to do it... instead also of placing the film back to the lcd cover, u can have it paste on the fone front cover or to a customize eyeglasses so that ull be the one to read ur fone secret messages ... just make a security pin code on your sim or delete watever secret messages in your fone....

gudluck and more power

aggro666
29-04-2003, 12:08 PM
halo guys, i have a new trick to make the inverted lcd more cool, how bout instead the color of the lcd is something purple or blue, u can make it green or orange without changing the color of the backlights..just simply place a scotch tape on the lcd film and wallah... its done....or make a unique design on the film something like a puzzle, theres a part of it thats inverted and some are not,....just cut and paste folks...its very simple but you should have lots of gots to do it... instead also of placing the film back to the lcd cover, u can have it paste on the fone front cover or to a customize eyeglasses so that ull be the one to read ur fone secret messages ... just make a security pin code on your sim or delete watever secret messages in your fone....


can you take a picture of a mobil phone, which is modified with this new trick ?

Furgo
29-04-2003, 10:33 PM
@ aggro

i have not had chance to look at the flash file as i dont have an 8210 at hand to test with, thanks for posting it

Is this the flash file that DarkPower modified with the 8910 menu graphics.

i had a look at the menu graphics when he modified the 3210 flash an they were very good,

but when i d/l this file when he first released it, i could not preview the graphics in PPMEDIT or FLSEDIT..


[ EDIT ] misread your post, an realise that you mention it is the one modified by Darkpower [ EDIT ]

ME123
02-05-2003, 02:05 PM
could some one be very nice and print these pics on acetate for me so i can put them behind my lcd. i cant do it myself as my printer is shit at printing on acetate and i have no color ink


i will send upto £2 nochex to who ever can print these out for me


some might need resizing so if this is any help i have a 5110. and will be getting a 8310 when i get the money. so if you can make them big enuff to fit both phones then great if not then dont worry


PM me if you are willing to do this for me. and i will give you my address i will send nochex on recipt of the pic thanx very much in advance




(should i have put this in the sales forum i dunno )

SmOg
03-05-2003, 07:12 PM
These coloured pics looks great! I have only 1 question. Do i need to change the leds which make like around the lcd or the original green lights is enough? (in 3210)

ameixoeiro
04-05-2003, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by SmOg
These coloured pics looks great! I have only 1 question. Do i need to change the leds which make like around the lcd or the original green lights is enough? (in 3210)

You don't really have to change your leds.. people just do that cause the picture in the screen is better seen with brighter leds..

welshwizard
07-05-2003, 09:49 PM
these look awesome! do they have 2 be on acetate or can they just be on paper?

what's the chances of messing up my phone if i try it? easire or harder than fitting LED's?

ME123
07-05-2003, 10:30 PM
it looks betta on acitate than on paper.

if u use paper the leds have to b brighter

ME123
07-05-2003, 10:45 PM
and its a hell of alot easyer than fitting leds

jus if u have a 3310/3210 its a bit harder cos u gotta snap off 2lugs that hold the screen on fitt the acitate then remake the lugs(heat up with soldering iron)

p.barker.3646
08-05-2003, 11:09 AM
i have reversed many screens py peeling the film and then rotating it 90 degrees

it is a bit tricky but it looks so cool at night

its better if you use a knife to gently lift the film off

try not to bend the film too much because this will mark it

use deoderant to help you to remove the glue and make it look better

the film on the front and back both come off
the front one is simpler to do and put back together but the back one looks better

to do the back one you might need to remove the silver sticker from the back but this makes the display even harder to see in the day

the best way to fix this is to cut a small piece of anti-static bag as it is reflective but light tlill shines through it!!!!!!!

Yozhee
10-07-2003, 05:20 AM
There are two kinds of plastic u can put in your lcd.

Hologram and Acetate...

Hologram- its like a sticker, just put/stick it on top of your lcd and
thats it.

Acetate- actually everybody can do this as long as you have a
printer. u can use such plastic like the one using in the
projector. Now this one, just put it under your lcd and u
have now a background.

Bonus: the one that crystalize the LCD, we call it here MATRIX.
I tried it already on my 3210, 7110 and 5110,6150 but for
me 3210 is the best co'z u can see the whole ic, board
and many things. But be sure that your cellfone has blue,
green or white backlight or else its hard for you to read.


Ciao!!!!!!!!!!!!

__________________________
Yozhee

nen77
10-07-2003, 05:16 PM
inverted screen
ffor those ones who are lazy(like me)
this ca be done on dct3 phones software using g3 or nntool


so the result is fast but not so spectacular

nen77
10-07-2003, 05:26 PM
this is nn tool
wich i have tested on few dct3....

a little trick you can change to normal by using no when in one menu(messages) the screen flickers

so you can use your phone normal screen or inverted

username
26-07-2003, 08:14 PM
Do you guys print the logo onto a photo paper or must you purchase a special flim to print on.

BTW if its printed onto photo paper, what is the exact size for 3310's screen.

Thanks in advance,
Username

HU-1
04-08-2003, 10:22 AM
i have tried here for 3310....

i did the same thing in inverting LCD's. i scratch off the film (filter) i turned it around and rotated it until the display goes blue......


----as additional thing to make it more beautiful.. i inverted the LCD again using the G3nolite patcher.....