3100 vs. 6610 - can anyone compare them, please?

[Thanh]

Hi there :)

The 3100 has just been launched in my country, and i was stunned how cheap it is. I could trade my 7-month old 6610 (no warranty because bought 2nd hand) against a brand new 3100 with full warrany and some features which make it look better than the 6610...... xhtml browser, rhytmic backlight, it's smaller and thinner, WAY better power button (in fact the best one i have so far see on a Nokia!)........ yet it's got no radio.

Now, can anyone here compare those two phones for me..? I would be very glad for any information!

Thanks in advance.....

your Thanh

[MellowBizkit]

Well Thanh, I'm proud to say that I'm a new owner of a 3100 and all I can say that it rocks!!! (Mine's a white faced mode).Anyway Thanh, what u said is true, it's got all the features you've mentioned plus the animated wallpapers and I'm using all of it. As for the FM function lacking, well, all I can say is save up for the radio headset (model #:H2-SR).Get that and you have a phone that's smaller,lighter,yet does allthe stuff your 6610 could. The pissin' ff part is that Oxygen hasn't released a OPM 2 which supports it so I'mhaving to labourbwith that ever clunky Nokia PC Suite (ver. 5.17)

[8675309]

...also the 3100 supports 16note polyphonic tones...

can you confirm if the 3100 supports .wav files?

[bababango]

man i also have got a nokia 3100 its blue well the problem is that DKu-5 cable is not working wiht it and i also tried the cable of 6100 but it does n;t work wiht mobi mb now what to do i have a lot of stuff which i wanna load in my 3100 but :( its sad that its cable is not working
can any one help me did any one have ever used the 3100 cable working if so i believe that my cabel is curropt and 3100 is ok
sorry for wrong english i never use back sapce

[Thanh]

Hey there :)

Thanks a bunch for all that input.... i made up my mind, and i voted "against" a trade........ For several reasons:

Non-presense of a radio........ i don't like to carry an extra piece of equipment besides the ordinary headset, and that radio headset 9i have seen it) would certainly NOT play over loudspeaker, right? :)

The battery. This new type of battery is thin, and it is a HELL expensive! Also it is not compatible with any of my spare-battery-chargers which i have from 8250 and 8310, both of them charge easily the battery of my 6610 because the contacts and size are the same, it's just a millimeter thinner :)

LOOSING MY SMS's! I have no data cable at all, and no IR, too..... and just for gaining rhytmic backlights (my network anyway got no WAP) and a good power switch i don't want to again lose all of my saved SMS, many of which are picture SMS.

Twin-SIM..... i just got that gimmick for my 6610, and now can use WAP via a prepaid SIM of another network just by flicking the tiny switch on the backside..... it looks nice on the 6610, making the entire phone a bit (2.5 millimeters) thicker, but there is no such thing for the 3100 and it's back cover does not cover the whole phone, so if it comes available, i again have a phone with a "hunchback" such as my 6510 before....... and always changing SIM's is a pain in the ass.

Besides i am seriously planning to leave the GSM world alltogether, with the local CDMA provider turning out better promotions almost every week now....... it's a shame that they haven't got any Nokia's yet, but if that's the price of it, i might give up Nokia completely for a while.... but not yet! I love this 6610 so much and i try to figure out a way of getting that CDMA Sanyo without needing to sell my 6610, but yet - i am not rich, can't afford to just buy a phone without selling the other :)

@bababango

I am sure the DKU-5 should work with that phone, maybe just the software doesn't..? You might ned a new driver, and maybe an update for each PC Suite and MobiMB or whatever you use, i have no experience since i have no cable, but the Pop-Ports are the same, and so is the cable :)

Kind regards.....
your Thanh

[bababango]

i am nayyar (bababango)from pakistan i have read your many post Thanh
i want to ask u things in future can i have your yahoo or msn id so that in future i can make coversation with u beside this forum
thanks for your help any way
:)

[Thanh]

Dear Nayyar :)

Of course you can have those details from me.... my MSN is "[email protected]" without the quote marks, and yahoo is "boy_thanh", again without the quote marks.

I am always happy when i can help!

Kind regards...
your Thanh

[mpsck]

3100 nokia housing is transparent and the phone have no infrared it can not conect to comp using any cable so it suck . no radio ,

[8675309]

the 3100 has cable connections via 1. pop port connectors,
at the bottom of the phone. 2. fbus connections, under the
battery.

[farq2]

ok, the 3100 doesnt have polophonic ringtones, its glow in the dark.color screen,and you can use the fun cam,

6610 has polophonic ringtones,color screen, tft screen, u can use the new cam and also 6610 qaulities are better than 3100 eg sound and picture qaulity.


Jack

[bababango]

dear thanh how are u i have mailed u to your hot mail account but havnt got any reply i need some help on a issue that i want to have some midlets on my phone using any website which can directly send it to my phone for free just for trial i am using mobilink service on my mobile phone is there any site from whihc i can send a midlet as sms and it come to my phone via OTA have any idea?
thanks in advance for ya dear
care take

[Thanh]

Hello :)

I am never online over the weekends.... since i use internet in my office, but i don't work on sat/sun. I have already replied to your mail :)

Kind regards....
your Thanh

[FRiC]

This is probably too late anyway, but I have both the 6610 and 3100. They do use the same type of charger. 3100 has the exact same 4-note polyphonic ringtone as the 6610. The most noticeable difference in daily usage is that the 3100 has picture caller ID and aniamted screen savers.

[Thanh]

Hello :)

Thank you very much for that reply :) Believe me, there is never a "too late"... even tough at the moment i left the Nokia world entirely. I am now CDMA user with a japanese clamshell phone....... but i am waiting for the arrival of some sort of CDMA Nokia in my country (Thailand) which needs to support R-UIM since my network (Hutch) does so..... and i am ctually favouring the 3105! Which is the 3100 but in CDMA version :)

Umm about animated screen savers, how does that result on the battery? I imagine they use quite some CPU power, and therefor should drain the battery considerably? How is your experience..? Please let me know.... thank you in advance!

Kind regards.....
your Thanh

[bugger]

so you guys witht he 3100, what sort of games does it take? 3510i type game (less detailed screen) or 6610 type of game (more detailed screen)?

[Thanh]

Hi there :)

Since the 3100 (and therefor the CDMA equivalent 3105) are series-40 phones, they will take any game except those for 7650, 3650 and 6600.

Every game stating "7210/7250" or "6610/7210" van be played at full resolution (128x128) and games designed for 3510i/3530 or 8910i (series 30 phones) will run as well, but give you only a very small window.

Kind regards.....
your Thanh

[furqan56]

Animated screen savers is one of the features that i miss on my 7250! Well my sis has got a 3100 and i have "played" around with it quite a lot. the differences that i noticed in the 3100 and 6610 are:

- Slightly different size and weight (barely noticable)

- 6610 has radio, 3100 not
- 6610 has IR, 3100 not

- 3100 has SMS distribution lists, 6610 does not.
- 3100 has photocaller ID, 6610 not.
- 3100 has configurable right soft key for shortcuts, 6610 not.
- 3100 has animated screensavers, 6610 not.
- 3100 has xHTML browser, 6610 not.

So basically 3100 has some extra features than 6610. If only it had IR, this set would have been quite near perfect for a BASIC level, but nokia has once again continued the tradition of not providing every feature in a single set to prompt users to upgrade and make them another sale.

The animated screen saver plays any animated gif u have selected on the phone for about a minute or so. After that time of inactivity, the digital clock screensaver takes over to conserve battery and the battery drain isn't much. There is still no way to have animations as wallpapers on the phone.

Hey nayyar (bababango), I too am from Pakistan (lahore) and i was wondering from where and for how much did u get the cable for 3100 to transfer pics/tones?

[benzor]

farq the 3100 has the same quality screen and sounds as the 6610 because my sister has the 6610 and ive compared and it has polyphonics. and if you dont like the transparent covers nokia has made normal shiny ones i got a blue one its cool and the glow in the dark is cool too.

[FRiC]

Hello Thanh, I'm calling from Thailand too...



6610 has been out for almost a year, while the 3100 is relatively new. When comparing these two phones, it's unfair to say that Nokia has not included all features for both phones. Besides, they're differently priced and aimed at different market segments. A closer match to the 3100 feature-wise is the 6220.

I don't think IR is needed for a basic phone like the 3100. Posters here might feel IR is a necessity, but typical 3100 owners would be downloading stuff off those paid services.

[Thanh]

Hello :)

Nice to see someone else from Thailand here :)

You are right that the 3100 and the 6610 target different groups, but - why is the 6610, the more expensive phone, with less features? Even the 3200, recently launched, is almost 1.000 Baht cheaper despite it even having a camera!!

And i just don't believe that the build quality is different - i had a 6610 for quite a while, i have to say it's actual quality did not really convince me (specially the original covers, flimsy and very easy to scratch!) and the rest is kind of standard with Nokia serie-40 - well made but depending on the usage.

I would even say that the 3200 is a cross-over between a 7210 (lower keypad), 7250 (back incl. cam) and 6610 (rest of the phone, incl. upper keypad, memory, display etc). Nokia uses here a platform strategy like carmakers, which is good in the way that they can churn out plenty of different phones with few basic components needed... but it makes the user feel ditched, having bought a (expensive) phone like a 6610 and few months later seing a better equipped one at much lower price, so obviously made of the same parts, at certainly same quality!

And - you may not compare a 3100 with a 6220 :) The 6220 eventually too shares the same platform, but it is way out - having EDGE and big memory. It is more comparable with the 7250i, which is the identical phone minus EDGE.

See that difference in the price (Jay Mart prices):

6610 (no cam, no EDGE, small memory size, but radio) 11.000 Baht
3100 (no cam, no EDGE, small memory size, no radio) 8.900 Baht
3200 (WITH cam, no EDGE, small memory, with radio) 10.400 Baht
7250i (WITH cam, no EDGE, BIG memory, with radio) 15.900 Baht
6220 (WITH cam, with EDGE, BIG memory, with radio) 16.600 Baht

Anyway i am on Hutch now and i got cam, medium memory (2 MB), and TWO colour screens..... but therefor not the quality of Nokia and weak ringtones. I am waiting for the 6225 to become available, since i heard that Hutch has crippled the software of the ordinary 3105 in a way that WAP is disabled (since they offer it only in the non-data "Say" package) and also the "applications" menu is taken out, in order to disable manual uploading of games! And i don't like artificially crippled phones, no matter what brand.

Hutch certainly got CDMA monopoly, but i expect them to bring a Nokia in the data-packages "More" and "Real" as well, they have to - many potential customers only wait for a phone like that before they change to Hutch and all it's other advantages.... what network can you call BKK-CMI at 2 Baht/min? At any time! And even Songkhla-CMI at same rate... countrywide! Hee hee i love Hutch and stay with them, even w/o Nokia :)

With kind regards.....
Thanh

[FRiC]

The 6xxx series will always cost more, due to the design, marketing, etc, and people will gladly pay more. My boss has a 8910, which has even less features and costs way more, but I'm sure he won't want to be seen in public with a 3100. :P

An even better example is the just released 3108, which is exactly the same as the 6108, but costs much less.

Oh, and 3200 has EDGE.

Happy New Year!

[Thanh]

Hello :)

My first post in 2004 :) And - thank you for pointing me in the right way.

Yes, the 3200 REALLY got EDGE. So - staying with the platform strategy, we have a 6220 here - just one with a 6610-memory chip and keypad layout! My fingers itch to borrow one and try to put a 6610-front cover on it. I bet it will fit! And the keys will work, ALL of them!

Well, i make a off-topic comparision here:

Volkswagen Golf 3, Audi A3 and Skoda Octavia.

Three seemingly totally different cars. Different brands even. Yet - the platform, that under the body, is ALL THE SAME, made by Volkswagen!

And - here too, the cheapest (Skoda!) was found to be of the best interiour quality.........

Does Nokia spy there?

I think this can be broken down to a very few parts: PCB, upper and lower keypad, memory and back. So - the 6610 was an original, and also the 6220.

The rest are derivates of those!

7250: A 6220 minus edge and with upper keypad from 7210.
7250i: same thing with different software!
7210: 100% 6610 but lower keypad from 6220, upper own. Even identical flash file!
3200: A 6220 with memory and keypad from 6610

So what?

And, true - 6100 and 3100 are identical hardware, just different design. Same goes for 6108 and 3108, which are the "touchpad" versions of 6100 and 3100.

Nokia, it seems, lost track of it's original lines, with the serie 8 being "High End", which ended definitely with the toyish 8310...... serie 7 was "High-Tech", serie 6 was "Business", serie 5 was (and still is, luckily!) "Experimental", serie 3 was "Middle Class", and serie 2 and 1 were "Entry Level".

Now we have identical phones through series 2,3,6 and 7. Only the porices and designs still remind wagely of the old classes, with the 6610 being certainly more "business style" than the 3200, and same goes for 6100/3100.

But again, does that alone allow for such price differencies? Take the (Identical, just different outer design!!!) 6610 and 7210 - a price difference of lately 1.200 Baht which the 7210 was cheaper!

Ok let's forget that thing - and i take the opportunity to ask one question here, which i am actually surprised never has been asked before...


Why are there NO serie 4xxx Nokias AT ALL..????

Let's find out :)

Kind regards....
Thanh

[FRiC]

4 means death in Chinese. You won't find many phones with 4 in the model numbers if they expect to sell any units in the single largest phone market in the world.

Incidentally, 68 means road to richness in Chinese. Hence SE T68, Nokia 6xxx, Siemens 6686, 6686, Panasonic GD68, etc. etc.

Oh, 7210 was never cheaper than 6610. You see the cheaper price here because they're graymarket phones.

[Thanh]

Hello :)

Please forgive late reply, i was unable to get into NFREE for four days... my ISP got that screwed up.

Now i understand..... so Nokia should quickly bring a 8888 for that market, or a 6868 :) I knew of the meaning of "8" but not of "68".......

And about the 7210-6610 difference... even in Nokia shops the 7210 is now cheaper, and Jay Mart too... that aren't gray market phones :)

Kind regards.....
your Thanh

[FRiC]

Well, prices are completely screwed up now. 6108 is now even cheaper than 7210, while it's still being sold for more than the original release price in China. I should be able to make a huge profit if I start grabbing up all the 6108's locally to resell them in China. :)

[samersleem]

I have to tell u guys that ur cables are correct when using mobimb u have to get the 1.2.6 version or better coz earlier versions doesn't work on 3100.
:)