AAC Encoding?

[Pinch]

I am told, that you can achive the same quality as MP3 with AAC at a much lower bitrate, so I'm really interested in knowing how this is possible... ?
I can't find any AAC encoder for windows, that will produce files readable by my 3300, so I'm quite desperate now - Been trying for a long time! :/

Does anyone know a good encoder, that will make files useable on my phone? I know that Nokia Audio Manager can do it, but it will only record cds, and as I want to reencode my mp3 files to aac, this is not the feature I can use http://nokiafree.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Btw. I would've done a search for this, but as AAC is only three letters, it's not possible...

[suavecito]

I am told, that you can achive the same quality as MP3 with AAC at a much lower bitrate, so I'm really interested in knowing how this is possible... ?
I can't find any AAC encoder for windows, that will produce files readable by my 3300, so I'm quite desperate now - Been trying for a long time! :/

Does anyone know a good encoder, that will make files useable on my phone? I know that Nokia Audio Manager can do it, but it will only record cds, and as I want to reencode my mp3 files to aac, this is not the feature I can use http://nokiafree.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Btw. I would've done a search for this, but as AAC is only three letters, it's not possible...


Try doing these: burn your MP3's into CD audio, then use the Nokia Audio Manager to encode the burned Audio CD into AAC files.

[Pinch]

I know I can do it like that, but that's just too much work, and it won't be easy matching the excact files size I want the files to fit... I need something like a plug-in for Winamp, that'll just encode my playlist

I have tried it your method though, and it does work, but what I don't get is why a 64kb/s aac file compared to a 112kb/s mp3 file sounds like crap!

If you compare a 64kb/s mp3PRO encoded file to a 128kb/s mp3 file, it sounds almost the same... So why should one prefer aac? http://nokiafree.org/forums/images/smilies//rolleyes.gif

[suavecito]

I know I can do it like that, but that's just too much work, and it won't be easy matching the excact files size I want the files to fit... I need something like a plug-in for Winamp, that'll just encode my playlist

I have tried it your method though, and it does work, but what I don't get is why a 64kb/s aac file compared to a 112kb/s mp3 file sounds like crap!

If you compare a 64kb/s mp3PRO encoded file to a 128kb/s mp3 file, it sounds almost the same... So why should one prefer aac? http://nokiafree.org/forums/images/smilies//rolleyes.gif

Because the AAC file size is much smaller than an Mp3, its sound also suffers. The file in AAC is compressed much smaller that some of the sound is lost when being encoded. The nokia audio manager doesnt have any options on how large you want your file would be encoded. I guess its the standard encoding (64kb/s). The only good thing with AAC is that you can store more music on your MMC than with storing MP3's which has a larger file size.

[Pinch]

The only good thing with AAC is that you can store more music on your MMC than with storing MP3's which has a larger file size.
I don't get it... Now I encoded the exact same track in the exact same quality in both aac and mp3 (112kb/s) and the aac file is actually a bit larger than the mp3 http://nokiafree.org/forums/images/smilies//rolleyes.gif

So I still don't get why aac should be better... ?

[suavecito]

I don't get it... Now I encoded the exact same track in the exact same quality in both aac and mp3 (112kb/s) and the aac file is actually a bit larger than the mp3 http://nokiafree.org/forums/images/smilies//rolleyes.gif

So I still don't get why aac should be better... ?

Are you using the Nokia Audio manager? Coz i've tried encoding an audio file into AAC (using NAM) and the file is actually smaller than MP3 (about 2mb or half the file size of its MP3 counterpart).

[Pinch]

Are you sure the files have the same bitrate? 'Cause I just encoded a track in NAM in aac and then the same file in mp3, both 96kb/s

The .aac file: 2.256.419
The .mp3 file: 2.257.982

So ok, it is smaller, but not something worth to mention :/

[suavecito]

Are you sure the files have the same bitrate? 'Cause I just encoded a track in NAM in aac and then the same file in mp3, both 96kb/s

The .aac file: 2.256.419
The .mp3 file: 2.257.982

So ok, it is smaller, but not something worth to mention :/

I've used 128/kbps. Hhmmm... That's weird. Maybe your sofware has a problem. Try to check this out.: http://www.ovolab.com/aachoo/aboutaac/ Here you'll know everything bout AAC.

[Pinch]

This just keeps getting stranger and stranger: now I tried encoding a new file in mp3 @ 128kb/s and again in aac @ 128kb/s with iTunes for Windows... The produced aac file, was a bit larger than the mp3 file, but the sound quality was alot better!

So I tried lowering the bitrate to 96kb/s, and the sound quality was still equal to the 128kb/s mp3 file!! Sweet... I got as low as 80kb/s with the aac file, without a big difference in the sound quality... "Great, now I wanna send it to the phone!", so I did... But the aac files have the fileextension .m4a, so I tried to play them in NAM, WinAmp (5) and Windows Media Player - None of them supported the file format... And guess what... Neither does the phone. So now I'm back where I started.

Why would iTunes report the file as an aac file, when no other programs other than itself are able to play them?

[suavecito]

This just keeps getting stranger and stranger: now I tried encoding a new file in mp3 @ 128kb/s and again in aac @ 128kb/s with iTunes for Windows... The produced aac file, was a bit larger than the mp3 file, but the sound quality was alot better!

So I tried lowering the bitrate to 96kb/s, and the sound quality was still equal to the 128kb/s mp3 file!! Sweet... I got as low as 80kb/s with the aac file, without a big difference in the sound quality... "Great, now I wanna send it to the phone!", so I did... But the aac files have the fileextension .m4a, so I tried to play them in NAM, WinAmp (5) and Windows Media Player - None of them supported the file format... And guess what... Neither does the phone. So now I'm back where I started.

Why would iTunes report the file as an aac file, when no other programs other than itself are able to play them?

Well, i havent tried Itunes for PC, im using iTunes for Mac coz im using a Mac Platform. There are no ACC encoding with iTunes2 and im using an OS 9. Well, anywys, just a quick thought, why not try to change its extension to .aac? Or probably, there is an option in the iTunes where you can encode it in AAC format and not on its MP4. I know that it they are a different format. Ill try to check it out its site.

[Pinch]

It's been a while since I last tried getting AAC to work, but now i'm at it again... I believe no new apps has been released, which could help me in my quest, but am I wrong?

I can't get it working on my cell, and it botheres me! :(

[limp-jaffa-cake]

use DBpoweramp and download the aac encoder plugin, i use 64kbps encoded aac's on my 3300 and it holds about 35 or so, compared to 15-20 mp3's @128kbps, it sounds the same too, try this, encode an mp3 at 64kbps, then do the same with an aac file and listen to the difference on you phone, the aac is vastly better quality :smile:

[pet_1485]

or, you can use nero (nero.com).download the new version of nero burning rom & find a crack or sn..it has great quality..thats all..