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CloneKing
04-09-2002, 09:21 AM
Anyone extracted KI & IMSI from a Gemplus SIM Card before.?

Manipulator
04-09-2002, 09:27 AM
i think i have 1 gemplus 1.it KI can be read.

nase ck
12-09-2002, 07:10 AM
gemplus ver1 u could read for finding IMSI and KI. if Gemplus Ver2 u will destroy your sim. i had try before..tq

CloneKing
12-09-2002, 07:13 AM
how do u know the version number.?

nase ck
15-09-2002, 06:27 AM
normally they will print on back simcard with "v2" This card i found at One2call prepaid from thailand..tq

tarantino
30-11-2002, 12:12 AM
what should we do to read the gemplus card without destroying it?

Manipulator
03-12-2002, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by tarantino
what should we do to read the gemplus card without destroying it?

i can read three gemplus a have,but i don't understand why their say it can destroy v2 gemplus card.
i'm not sure mine is v1 or v2.

sadom
03-12-2002, 03:32 AM
I have one & i can read imsi and ki without any problems : )
i guess its version 2 .

nase ck
03-12-2002, 09:32 AM
@sadom
are u sure your sim is V2. if yes. what address ending for finding KI. or how long.

thanks:D

sadom
03-12-2002, 10:01 AM
My KI : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

tarantino
05-12-2002, 01:05 AM
Hi guys,

Today when i tried to read the KI of a gemplus card after a while the result was a destroyed card. What am I doing wrong?

Hardware:
Phoenix AP with a 3.57Mhz cristal powered by a 6v 120mA .72VA power source

Software:
Cardinal v68

Is it the cristal? Should it have a higher frequency?

There is any special configuration for cardinal?

I'm going nuts with this... :confused: Thank you for your help!

brakk_
05-12-2002, 02:32 AM
cardinal brute-force method can crash your card
or maybe is your simcard v2 cyphered
or twice :(

tarantino
05-12-2002, 02:38 AM
@brakk_

do you know any solution to this particular problem?

thanx in advnace?

Manipulator
06-12-2002, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by tarantino
@brakk_

do you know any solution to this particular problem?

thanx in advnace?

is better using dejan sim-scan to get the KI.
it got 3 mode.

brakk_
07-12-2002, 06:26 PM
as Manipulator said, simscan v1.33 (latest version?) is more 'secure'
btw i preffer to use simmagic/simmaster software coz i can 'have a look' on speed it works, 'v2' card cracking is slowest in comparison to older simcard i've already clone, then i can safely interrupt the process before crash the card
keep in mind that's only an 'intuitive' method coz timing can be altered by many factor until the soft ran under windows vmm's , not as 'simple' extended or pure dos session
explanation maybe not as clear i would :) but it's the only way i found to prevent total card crash

tarantino
08-12-2002, 10:28 PM
@brakk_

If the simmagic/simmaster is compatible with a phoenix programmer can you please post it for me to try it :)

thnx in advance!