What stereo is: READ BEFORE BITCHING

[smpballa240]

I'm sorry but I've seen the question too much and I have to set it straight.

Web Definitions of Stereo:

"A method of producing sound where the audio is mixed in two different channels. This is so that the human ears can detect direction that the sound is coming from. Usually it is used with music to give a fuller, more natural sound. It has two separate audio channels."
www.cpinternet.com/~dkrantz/glossary.html

"Two-channel system feeding left and right speakers."
www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/2353/gloss.htm

SOUND QUALITY IS NOT A FACTOR. From one of my earlier posts, here's an explanation of what stereo is and does:
Far as I know, quality of stereo and mono sound is the same. The difference is that stereo has two channels of sound to create a surround sound effect e.g. like when you watch a movie with headsets and certains sounds come out of the left ear but not the right. If you watched the same part of this movie with mono sound, the sounds would simply sound the same when they come out of both ears because the two sound channels are combined into one, so you don't know the direction of the sound. I'm pretty sure quality has nothing to do with it.

Reasons for using stereo: surround effect, fx in songs

Reasons for using mono: less data (only one channel instead of two) and therefor less power needed to decode both channels and less space required for digital music (why ultramp3 only plays mono). Stereo is more like playing two NEARLY identical sound tracks at the same time, just in different ears. Moreover, by making a sound mono, you automatically cut the file size down greatly (tip for converting vids and compressing mp3)

Final summation: Sure it's a pity when it's not there, but you probably won't notice stereo effects, nor should they effect your phone shopping.

[AlmostRandom]

But... As merory cards are getting bigger+cheaper some may want to use their phone as their personal music player (personally I swear by my iPod for now). If I was considering a phone for this purpose then stereo and general sound quality would indeed be an issue... SNR etc etc and would play a big part in the choice of phone...

but hey.. well done for expaining to those in the dark!

[leespud]

so why wen i stuck loads of my mp3s on my old 3650 i had half the songs missing?? it would only play one audio channel it didnt combine them, put the same mp3s on my n-gage and out comes the complete song!!!

[tzeonn]

like i mentioned many times b4.

one man's meat is another man's poison. some mind it being mono, others dont.

i can hear the song clearly on my ngage, since the speakers are capable. 6600 can play the whole song too, but not as clear.

u shld get a ngage, or any stereo phone and listen to the difference when u play mp3s. heck, i listen to mp3s on my 3650 instead of ngage last time too, no big deal about the sounds, just compromise on quality a bit, i get more space by reducing song to mono.

[RiisE]

Tzeonn, i strongly agreed with u, what is call enjoying music, how many people preferred stereo rather than mono? Hope a lot of people will understand this.

Why DTS or D.Digital, why not Sony remaining producing mono system, i think that's why. You know.

[gophermaster]

Yeah... we all know what stereo sound is. It's just that mono sound is inferior to stereo.

[imranac]

yeah.. I agree with Tzeonn.. :rolleyes:

hmmm.. take your 7650 or 3650 or 6600 [Mono Speaker]
take an N-gage or p800 or p900 [Stereo Speakers]

transfer an mp3 (make sure its stereo and 128kpbs) to your device
and transfer the same mp3 to the other devices [which has stereo speakers]

play them...
I don't know about the deaf-guys..

I can hear well and I can also see the difference between both
the speakers especially in terms of quality...! :-o

I am not sayin that QUALITY alone is the factor for being a stereo..
I know all about right and left channels.. and mono and other audio junk..

what I am trying to say is.. if you know how a stereo phone sounds..
you would want a stereo speaker on your (mono) phone too.. :-P

Stereo rules.. and mono sucks.. you guys supporting mono should hear how a stereo phone sounds sometimes...
just my personal opinion.. thats all..

oh by the way..
I've used so many phones.. (including the N-gage and the p900)
My younger bro's got a p800..
and I've got my 6600 (which is mono)

believe me..there's a big difference dudes! :)

cheers! :rolleyes:

[k2bk2b]

Stereo is especially important on how u want your wav tones to sound.
Frankly, a wav tonew sounds pratically horrid on mono speakers.
u can hear the diffrence immidiately...
mono - u have to encode the wav file to mono and softer sound if not it'll sound like its ripping your speakers apart.

for stereo u can actually hear the diffrence.

Therefor. Theres a whole lot of diffrence.

[Zenden]

Yuh! I agree.There is indeed a different between stereo and mono. I don't think making a stereo symbian hp will not be hard for Nokia.As SE and Siemen have demonstrated,shan't nokia be making one? If nokia is still so stubborn,then their market global share will drop from 34% to 28%,then 20% to 12%,then to 0%. Wake up Nokia!

[Iceman5]

smpballa240, ur absolutly right! well sed

imranac, never compare on the phones... coz they all have different speakers. 6600 have different speakers compared to 3650 and 7650 and to n-gage (better speakers) and same for p900 and p800. u have to compare on the same device! thats like comparing a surround system to ur mp3 player! compare them all on ur pc. of course stereo is alot better than mono. but not in terms of quality. its exactly the same and quality is about bitrate and not stereo/mono

to all, theres no such thing as stereo vs. mono coz stereo IS better. its as simple as that. but do we really need that on a cellphone? i would rather have stereo than mono of course but i really dont care and i wouldnt pay more for a stereo phone than a mono phone. i think this "battle" have gone way too far lol

[Bossworld]

You can downmix both L and R channels to one mono feed but you'll be missing any effects (loads of which are apparent in modern songs especially if you listen to dance music - such as panning)


Although it does mean you'd definitely get all the music.

Stereo > Mono for me, couldn't use a mono mp3 player

And yes the ngage speaker is much better than the 3650/6600 one, but then again the 6230 one is much better than the ngage one so it's not really an accurate sign of what does what.

[smpballa240]

Precisely. It's all about how much it matters to you. Stereo is better, BUT NOT IN SOUND QUALITY, just in terms of the effects it enables, which can be badass in certain songs and movies. But I'll gladly give up stereo for a little bit smaller or cheaper phone. Hell, I have a small, extra TV that's mono, that doesn't mean it sounds horrible. Some of ya'lls perspectives are skewed cause you think that if its a mono speaker, it must sound like it does on your phone, since ALL mono speakers sound the same, right??? wrong. The point of this thread is to keep people from making bad decisions based on incorrect information and minor details such as stereo.

7610 and 6630: mono or stereo? It'd be nice if they were stereo, but who the hell cares, these phones are badass.

[fnvillafuerte]

...And yes the ngage speaker is much better than the 3650/6600 one...

If it is true, then, can I replace my 6600 speaker with a spare ngage speaker? Will it improve the 6600 sound quality? Please advice...

[Musicb0ffin]

A manufacturer can never make a perfect product. If they include all the features to make it perfect, the price will be sky high. Obviously, nokia like myself have decided that stereo sound is not top of the features list. If you don't like it, buy your ngage or whatever with its stereo sound and shut the fuck up. Noone is making you buy a mono phone. Failing that, go to your local high street and buy a cd player for £15. Much cheaper than a mobile phone, much more useless, but that has full 44khz sound which is stereo.

I know, lets start an arguement about how crap the mono screen on the 3310 was!! FFS... Its getting really stupid now... The next person to moan about no stereo or say that mono sounds inferior to stereo needs banning. Might shut the pussies up...

[k2bk2b]

think u've taken things too personally......

we're talking about a phone that supports mp3 yet has no stereo.

your concept of 3310 mono screen.... lets say we add a camera to the 3310.
wont it be POINTLESS that ITS HAS A CAM AND ITS MONO SCREEN?????

BAN ME. i m gonna say it still... stereo is important and better than mono.
especially is ur talking about a high end phone.
and a bloody stereo speaker or and stereo output WONT COST much for a manufacture to make or add..... they do it in volumes... not like a few pieces of phones only.

[tzeonn]

like i said many times, 1 man's meat is another man's poison.

u dun mind stereo, but some others do. no need to go all out and b a stereo hater.

of course, if 7610 is stereo, it would b great. even if its mono, im sure many of u wun mind it since its still a great phone.

hmmm.... ban pussies... i'd close this thread if i see more personal views.

[k2bk2b]

Musicb0ffin
u've seem to be taking this tooo personally.
i've seen many of yer post.. being so aggrivated by this stereo thing..

does it really affect you what others want???
Theres no need to take things so personally.

how would u like your 3310 with 3.0 mega pixel cam, but mono screen?
thats exactly how users feel.

n-gage --- stereo but no cam...
7650-6600 --- all cam but no stereo. (7610 included)

its a symbain phone that has endless programmes for it, everyone's just hopping since there's expanable memory, and mp3 support, might as well a stereo speaker.

this thing about stereo speaker has been going on since 7650 till now.
everyone hopes nokia would just give them stereo.
it'll shut everyone up afterthat.

[Bossworld]

They'll always leave one feature out so that they've got a reason to make people upgrade. Sad truth is at the end of the day they're just after money, they don't care what your phone has or hasn't got

Face it, if there was a nokia s60 with great battery life, decent keypad/d-pad control, great screen, 1 or 2mp camera, stereo sound, fm radio and mp3 - everyone would buy it and never upgrade.

[Zenden]

They'll always leave one feature out so that they've got a reason to make people upgrade. Sad truth is at the end of the day they're just after money, they don't care what your phone has or hasn't got

Face it, if there was a nokia s60 with great battery life, decent keypad/d-pad control, great screen, 1 or 2mp camera, stereo sound, fm radio and mp3 - everyone would buy it and never upgrade.

Like that symian hp user also got no reason to upgrade since all new phone is not their idea one! No wonder nokia sales drop so badly! I 'm just waiting for n6230,got everything ,symbian,radio,with mp3 player(I bet got stereo).

[tzeonn]

Like that symian hp user also got no reason to upgrade since all new phone is not their idea one! No wonder nokia sales drop so badly! I 'm just waiting for n6230,got everything ,symbian,radio,with mp3 player(I bet got stereo).

hmmm... if u do mean 6230, its out and its not symbian. u talking bout 6630? :???:

[Zenden]

hmmm... if u do mean 6230, its out and its not symbian. u talking bout 6630? :???:


Sorry,I mean n6260. Comfirm nokia 6260 is symbian phone and has radio and mp3 player plus expansion mmc slot.

[Musicb0ffin]

Sorry, it justs seems like everyone is going round in circles... Ah well