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theremoids
11-10-2002, 06:14 AM
is there a way that when you flash your modified flash to a certain fone... when someone backup the flash file and flash it to another fone - it won't work?

like anti-stealing of modified flash files.

NokiaPhreak
11-10-2002, 06:20 AM
Why you want to do that? I think it is impossible even you cut off the contact point for Fbus-RX or TX, people can still solder out the flash ic and put it to another phone to copy your modified flash. Don't try to think about this again. there is no way to do this.

theremoids
11-10-2002, 06:31 AM
it's just a thought... for all lazy people who depends on OTHER's cool modified flash files and ask money for it... like they don't experiment at all!
now, why would someone spend his time resoldering Flash IC just to steal a modified flash file?

NokiaPhreak
11-10-2002, 06:37 AM
hehehe.....lazy or maybe stupid enough like don't know at all on how do modify...and last point for MONEY....

:D :D :D

Manipulator
11-10-2002, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by NokiaPhreak
hehehe.....lazy or maybe stupid enough like don't know at all on how do modify...and last point for MONEY....

:D :D :D


[SIZE=4]hahaha[/SIZE :grin: :grin:

theremoids
11-10-2002, 06:49 AM
heheheeee!... they're lazy or stupid but i don't want them slealing my modified flash files! they better make their own or wait til i share mine. :D :D :D

NokiaPhreak
11-10-2002, 06:59 AM
huhuhuhu.....:( :( :(

but how, how to modify, i don't know....i don't want to spend money to buy software too.....the only thing i want is free, but no one want to share by now....how??(minds fly over their brain, yeah, crack, hack, steal, what ever what ever and it should be FREE, so i can earn lots of money)


:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Manipulator
11-10-2002, 07:03 AM
sure some one can't do this,but don't want to share it only.

NokiaPhreak
11-10-2002, 07:15 AM
actually until now what i have saw at here only few of them want to share thier modification only, most of them won't.

I know why they don't, like me, i have saw so many mobile shop owner or worker, download those flash from here and modify thier customer phone with those flash and charge with a very nice price.

Why we want to work hard and let those stupid ppl become rich? and we still need to continue supply them modified flash for free. We save money by spend less ourself for buying software, but they just steal the flash and sell to other to become rich day after day. What's the deal.

Manipulator
11-10-2002, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by NokiaPhreak
actually until now what i have saw at here only few of them want to share thier modification only, most of them won't.

I know why they don't, like me, i have saw so many mobile shop owner or worker, download those flash from here and modify thier customer phone with those flash and charge with a very nice price.

Why we want to work hard and let those stupid ppl become rich? and we still need to continue supply them modified flash for free. We save money by spend less ourself for buying software, but they just steal the flash and sell to other to become rich day after day. What's the deal.

yeah very " very nice price "

KnokKnok
14-10-2002, 01:40 PM
If you create you own modified flash and sold it (flash back to phone) then that one is considered sold. If you don't want your modifications being copied then use it to your own phone. :lol:

The best way to make your flash file not to be copied back to other phone is to put the name of the owner somewhere in the icons or menus. I think that, they will have a hard time to edit those things if they know then if not, your in luck. :D :D :D

I downloaded modified files in this forum and some of them I flash back to my friends phone for free (maybe a little snack will do :) :) )

NokiaPhreak
14-10-2002, 02:55 PM
by now, by using those crack or free software it is very easy to remove your name in those icon and menu bitmap. so i don't think it is useful.

KnokKnok
14-10-2002, 04:10 PM
@NokiaPhreak

A lot of amateurs here in the Philippines. They are good in copying (flash cables here are cheap $20, fbus/mbus cables $2), but not in editing. Filipino members in this forum can do that. :lol: :lol:

Thanks nokiafree! ! ! :) :) :)

Unique
14-10-2002, 04:13 PM
I've seen alot of 33xx with the 4 cable contacts on the pcb removed to prevent flashing, :rolleyes: Pointless

GeeZuZz
14-10-2002, 05:02 PM
I share my flash files to others. (if you want mine you can find it HERE (http://home.no.net/geezuzz/stuff/3310_v5.55_Mod_by_GeeZuZz.zip)

The reason is because people can take the ringtones and menu animations, and get some ideas. But i suppose noone uses the flash file in their phone? I would never use someone else's flash in my phone. The meaning with modifying flash files is to make the phone look like you want! not other people.

I would never even used "projectz" in my phone. I only take the parts i like, and make my own flash.

Note: "use" and test is to different things. Of course i test flashfiles on my phone - but i don't use them in many days or something.

slikmik
14-10-2002, 05:11 PM
Yep i do the same i mean to have a personalised flash is to have one YOU made - all very well having a modded one off net but if YOUVE done it then it seems all the more special :-D

Mike

NokiaPhreak
14-10-2002, 05:43 PM
I know and me too, but as knokknok said in some country, ppl there don't know how to modified or maybe too lazy to modify themselve, all they want is a special or diffirent with normal flash file, so they can help customer to upgrade phone and charge for some money.

lets' imagine, you spend so many hour to modified your flash file, and kind enough to share it with others, but later day you seeing your modification are sold in the market with a very nice price, and those ppl become rich just because your flash file. How do you feel? What do you get?

BenZ
15-10-2002, 09:51 AM
its too common here in our country and i know they all make big money for that..

NokiaPhreak
15-10-2002, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by BenZ
its too common here in our country and i know they all make big money for that..

How about you, one of them??

:D :D :D

Manipulator
15-10-2002, 10:36 AM
haha,world of business..

theremoids
15-10-2002, 04:19 PM
thanks for the inputs guys... i'm still finding some ways to make a "STEAL PROOF" modified flash file so that all those lazy/stupid parasites do their own creations.

NokiaPhreak
15-10-2002, 05:21 PM
To all expert,

please find out a way to make a "STEAL PROOF" flash.

Thanks you.

mrbig4545
15-10-2002, 07:46 PM
yeh plz, as it would be sooooo cool, :p

Mark

brakk_
16-10-2002, 12:09 AM
"please find out a way to make a "STEAL PROOF" flash."
precison:
i'm far away from expert u requested ;P

no way to make any 'CRC-like' mobile phone dependant (iccid, imei etc...)?
i'm not familar with those flash file, i know only some security 'schemes' with smartcards, but i think the idea is same coz structure are similar at numerous ways
am i wrong?

bisdak
16-10-2002, 01:19 AM
i make my own modified flashes and that's what i flash to my clients' phones... its uncool to use others' modified flash file and earn money from it!!!

project steal-proof flash file must be initiated!

bisdak :D

KodeX
16-10-2002, 01:44 AM
Steal Proof?

Guyz, it needs a magic potion. Where's the One-Time in OTP?.. . :D :D :D

If somebody can read even XBOX's, how can you make your flash excepted?...

victor
16-10-2002, 05:27 AM
"Sigh!" ............ well even Microsoft has problem on this situation ......... "pirated cds"!

Nevertheless, even us/ourselves are making money by modifying NOKIA's flash. Ha! :D :D :D :D

NokiaPhreak
16-10-2002, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by victor
Nevertheless, even us/ourselves are making money by modifying NOKIA's flash.

At least you modified it yourself, that's okay. But if you steal somebody to earn money from, then shame for you.

What we are talking about here is ppl must learn and modified themselve, if facing any problem, then post question here, i think most of ppl here are very happy to help and share, but if ppl just want to use other ppl modifcation to earn money, then shame...

right? if your modification got spread out in the market, and many ppl here using it to earn money, what you work hard for?

bisdak
16-10-2002, 08:26 AM
got a lot of modified flashes cool ones, but becoz of these prople of whom you cant trust, they steal your work for their benefit, i never contribute my 'best' works... i just give it to someone i can trust,

i hope 'project steal-proof' could be realized. maybe in the near future,

bisdak :D

mikejumanan
16-10-2002, 09:35 AM
i just give it to someone i can trust
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hey bisdak,
since you're from rp, would you mind sharing it with me,
for sure it'll only be for my own eyes since i don't have and no plans of putting up a shop.
btw, ur name is from the south, where in visayas u from?
daghan salamat bai!