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bluescreenkid
28-01-2005, 05:15 PM
get the demo here ...

http://www.vampent.com/vsun.htm

i have tried it out on my 7610 with super mario kart ... it works ... and i don't wanna totally slam it because it does work ... but it is sluggish ... even without, which is choppy at best ...


bsk :D

Joey18
28-01-2005, 05:27 PM
i got it, but not yet test...

Joey18
28-01-2005, 05:32 PM
tested already on my QD......demo has no sound and no lag.

Joey18
28-01-2005, 05:47 PM
If with the sound on......my QD lag really, really bad. No sound= No lag.

Vazkor
28-01-2005, 05:50 PM
Omfg I'm playing Super Punch Out on my N-Gage.

I can't believe my very eyes.

$iimcard
28-01-2005, 05:54 PM
Omfg I'm playing Super Punch Out on my N-Gage.

I can't believe my very eyes.
so how is the game speed?

v7e6j5
28-01-2005, 05:55 PM
Damn! No sound when playing it on the QD. This is 1 emulator that i might just wait 2b cracked. Instead of buying it.

H@Zardous P@in
28-01-2005, 06:01 PM
tested already on my QD......demo has no sound and no lag.
i got it!!
what do u mean no sound?
they said in the features that even the demo version has the sound feature!!

H@Zardous P@in
28-01-2005, 06:04 PM
Damn! No sound when playing it on the QD. This is 1 emulator that i might just wait 2b cracked. Instead of buying it.
does that mean that the sound will never work on the QD?????????????

:x :-(

Vazkor
28-01-2005, 06:09 PM
so how is the game speed?

Full playable.

I can't speak about how many frame per seconds, but I can play it with no problems at all.

Vazkor
28-01-2005, 06:31 PM
Damn! No sound when playing it on the QD. This is 1 emulator that i might just wait 2b cracked. Instead of buying it.

You should really support this program ...
'till yesterday you yelled "great Vampent, good Vampent, whoa Vampent" and now you can't afford a few dollars to support his work?

No REAL and SERIOUS cracker should work on Vsun ...

v7e6j5
28-01-2005, 06:43 PM
I supported Vampent's Vnes & Vboy. I won't support something that's not going 2 work 100% on my QD.

Neophyte88
28-01-2005, 06:58 PM
DAMN i can already hear the 6630 owners saying that it runs perfect on their S60s !!! :evil: :evil: :evil:






:P

Vazkor
28-01-2005, 07:04 PM
DAMN i can already hear the 6630 owners saying that it runs perfect on their S60s !!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

Yeah but with a 4-way dpad where are you supposed to go ... ?

momagic
28-01-2005, 07:08 PM
Yeah but with a 4-way dpad where are you supposed to go ... ?

we can play final fantasy, just trying it now!

Neophyte88
28-01-2005, 07:10 PM
Yeah but with a 4-way dpad where are you supposed to go ... ?


True, but u can always change keys. Still n-gage is more suitable for vsun than 6630.

momagic
28-01-2005, 07:17 PM
just tried chrono trigger didnt work :(

Joey18
28-01-2005, 07:22 PM
chrono trigger work ok on my QD, but kinda lag a little even with the sound off....but still very much playable. :wink:

yuppo
28-01-2005, 07:29 PM
Best games i've tried so far are Super Putty, Sim City, Super Off Road, Street Fighter II, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Mario World, Syndicate, WWF and Zool :)

Neophyte was right the do run close to perfect :)

Vazkor
28-01-2005, 07:33 PM
we can play final fantasy, just trying it now!

... you have a point.

momagic
28-01-2005, 07:36 PM
soz, chrono does work, buts its kina slow

v7e6j5
28-01-2005, 07:39 PM
I can't dl it until i get home from work. Then i can try it 4 myself. If it works 100% like Vnes & Vboy does, then i'll buy it. If not no sweat.

Vazkor
28-01-2005, 07:41 PM
If it works 100% like Vnes & Vboy does, then i'll buy it. If not no sweat.

You're already trying to find an excuse to have it cracked by someone?

Man, you suck sooo much ...

momagic
28-01-2005, 07:51 PM
lol! we all want it cracked!

but these vampent boys, my god they are good!

THANK YOU VAMPENT!!!!!!


WE LOVE YOU

yuppo
28-01-2005, 07:52 PM
After trying a few more roms i decided to buy it. I went on to their site filled ina couple of forms then they say credit cards only! No switch, solo, paypal or any or the other free easy to use stuff, bunch of cocks. I'll be waiting for the cracked version now.

Joey18
28-01-2005, 07:56 PM
i want full version!!!

momagic
28-01-2005, 07:58 PM
After trying a few more roms i decided to buy it. I went on to their site filled ina couple of forms then they say credit cards only! No switch, solo, paypal or any or the other free easy to use stuff, bunch of cocks. I'll be waiting for the cracked version now.


lol! but they good cocks!

just tried street fighter 5 [hack] the sound set on smart slows it down qiute a lot, and its very hard to do a dragon! :C

Pou_pee
28-01-2005, 08:23 PM
Super Mario World is so slow on my N-Gage.
I'm trying my classic favorite: Final Fantasy IV (seems to work ok :-) )

I love scroll button. Great work Vampent!!

DarkSaber
28-01-2005, 08:37 PM
on 7610:

-every game i tried so far is affected by low framerate (of course forget about any kind of sound setting - it slows down emulation next to unplayability)

-176x208 screen resizing could be better (this affect text reading especially), pico & frodo resizing look a bit smarter

-some games that heavily use mode7 don't run (i.e. Axelay)

-very tricky to get the 'job' done with 7610 awful 4way pad and keypad

These flaws don't change the fact that Vampent achieved a milestone in s60 story.They got my admiration.As soon they will accept payment from other ways than credit card,i will buy it.
Anyway i strongly think that speedwise there is very small room for improvement on s60 devices (apart from 6630).
They got as far as they can on current s60 chipsets.Hope they prove me wrong.

All my hope rely on 3230,who features a proper joystick (in the likes of 7650,even if it still had 4 way it's a lot easier to use),more system memory and same ARM core of 6630.

Neophyte88
28-01-2005, 09:04 PM
Have faith this is still their a young version, maybe they'll come up with better ways of compression...

Vazkor
28-01-2005, 09:24 PM
Vampent achieved a milestone in s60 story.

You can yell it loud ...
3230 will be my next mobile phone.

fannypad
28-01-2005, 09:25 PM
Best games i've tried so far are Super Putty, Sim City, Super Off Road, Street Fighter II, F-Zero, Mario Kart, Mario World, Syndicate, WWF and Zool :)

Neophyte was right the do run close to perfect :)

Perfect? I downloaded Mario World, Mario Kart and F-Zero from a certain Russian rom site, and all ran like a crippled dog on my 6630, sound on or off :-?

What kind of settings are you using? And which version of vSun (4096 colour or 65K colour)?

Vazkor
28-01-2005, 09:30 PM
Man I can't understand how can people still complain ...
a Super Nintendo emulator was a SCIENCE-FICTION THING 'till today!

fannypad
28-01-2005, 09:47 PM
I'm complaining because everyone's been banging on about it running "perfectly" on the 6630, but on mine it plods along at about 10fps.

Firmware issue maybe?

Yuppo...

asmola
28-01-2005, 10:21 PM
i've tried vsun and it took all games i fed it, and it was without any lag too... i have a 6630

fannypad
28-01-2005, 10:33 PM
Firmware version?

momagic
28-01-2005, 11:18 PM
V 3.45.111
08-12-04
Rm1

v7e6j5
29-01-2005, 12:46 AM
You're already trying to find an excuse to have it cracked by someone?

Man, you suck sooo much ...
I'll wait 4 a updated ver. of Vsun. There forum shows what roms work & what roms don't work on the QD. And Vazkor ur talk a lot of sh*t. Did u buy Vnes & Vboy, as i did the first time. So u finally brought a Vampent emulator, big deal. U want 2 suck something, suck yourself ur great @ it. Why did u leave the thread Vazkor? U didn't think, i knew u were there.

PsychiatricHelp
29-01-2005, 06:44 AM
Just tried Super Ghouls & ghosts

Slow as a bitch

No sound at all

bogu
29-01-2005, 08:22 AM
I won't even try it until there's a version that runs good enough for the N-Gage...I'm sure they'll try to fix it up to make it run much smoother with all the commotion this thing made, it would be a huge hit if it worked properly, I might even be inclined to pay for it in the future maybe...

Pou_pee
29-01-2005, 09:51 AM
I love dotsis :wink:

asmola
29-01-2005, 10:10 AM
2.39.15
11-11-04
Rm-1

Vazkor
29-01-2005, 10:32 AM
I really can't understand ...
what did you think?

A Snes emulator can't run much faster than this ...
there will be no magic update.

I mean, of course there's space for some improvement but I think it's plain unrealistic believing to play games in full speed with sound ...
back to the important things :
can someone test this emulator on both 6630 and another S60 phone?

Can you notice any difference?

DeBasht
29-01-2005, 10:40 AM
V 3.45.111
08-12-04
Rm1

is there a way to get the new firmware?

Vazkor
29-01-2005, 11:03 AM
is there a way to get the new firmware?

Boys, I think you only have a different idea on what's "slow" and what not ...
without an fps counter how can you say works ok, it does not?

Unless you can compare two phisical devices, you can't.

Judicator
29-01-2005, 11:19 AM
Like I was expecting, as slow on the SX1 as vNES and vBOY! :(

Even the sound is slow that time. And it makes really now difference on the SX1 to play with or without sound.

On my N-Gage it only runs aceptable without sound... it's not a hit but it's ok...

But a nice feeling, playing SNES on a S60-Phone! :)

I think I would only buy it if Vampent starts supporting the SX1 (which has 30 MHZ more than N-Gage). But they are ignorants! ;P

vSUN on the 6630 also has some great potential, where they have to redo some work...

joetilo
29-01-2005, 11:20 AM
I love dotsis :wink:
really? u love it without save/load support? :)

DeBasht
29-01-2005, 11:20 AM
Boys, I think you only have a different idea on what's "slow" and what not ...
without an fps counter how can you say works ok, it does not?

Unless you can compare two phisical devices, you can't.

i know the normal speed cause it is such slow that it couldn't be normal.

without sound it is a bit faster...

so sb can tell me how to get the latest firmware?
flashing needs a special cable? sending to nokia?

Vazkor
29-01-2005, 11:27 AM
i know the normal speed cause it is such slow that it couldn't be normal.

Omg how can you know what's normal and what's not?

It's an EMULATOR, mobiles are not even SUPPOSED to run such complex programs ...

Pou_pee
29-01-2005, 11:30 AM
really? u love it without save/load support? :)

Ofcourse it does :smile:

joetilo
29-01-2005, 11:33 AM
Ofcourse it does :smile:

with dotsis version, load donkey kong country, save a game on the 'map screen' (where you select levels) - then go into a level and try and load a game.. you'll find its not correct (the background is all stuffed etc)

try the same with the ownpda version and it works fine.

Vazkor
29-01-2005, 11:37 AM
Already cracked ... you're such a bunch of ungrateful people ...

Pou_pee
29-01-2005, 11:37 AM
with dotsis version, load donkey kong country, save a game on the 'map screen' (where you select levels) - then go into a level and try and load a game.. you'll find its not correct (the background is all stuffed etc)

try the same with the ownpda version and it works fine.

really? I found it working with no ploblem for Final Fantasy IV :-?

BizzyRok
29-01-2005, 12:36 PM
its hardly playable on the 6600 so r there any games that run decent

amoo
29-01-2005, 12:50 PM
how can i search for vSun games?

Vazkor
29-01-2005, 12:55 PM
www.planetemu.net

Every game is here.

DeBasht
29-01-2005, 12:57 PM
how can i search for vSun games?

www.romnation.net ...

;)

@vazkor i meant the comparison between pc emu and vsun...

cause

momagic V 3.45.111
08-12-04
Rm1

has said he has good speed with is firmware

DarkSaber
29-01-2005, 01:21 PM
You can yell it loud ...
3230 will be my next mobile phone.

You got any clue about the release date & price tag in our country?
Checked out some sites,but without luck.
BTW,with this phone nokia will take market by storm.Feature loaded.S60 at it's best.

amoo
29-01-2005, 01:23 PM
i could not find anythimg about mobile emus and games...

searched the sites you have given but no way

please show me a way for the sites

DeBasht
29-01-2005, 02:00 PM
i could not find anythimg about mobile emus and games...

searched the sites you have given but no way

please show me a way for the sites

vsun is a snes emulator...

you can play snes roms with it and you can find roms on the sites ok?

beyond2005
30-01-2005, 04:58 AM
Ok, I just tested the demo on a 6600 and an offline n-gage.

It looks better on the 6600 because of it's superior display but performance seems just a tad better on the n-gage.
However, speed is... SLOW. As expected. Please do not get your hopes up. Not even Vnes runs at 100 %.
Most action games are unplayable as it is. With or without sound.
Some people might be able to enjoy their favourite RPGs.

Still, props must be given to the developers :

the emulation seems very correct. Graphics are spot on and the sound (slow, yes) is emulated faithfully, contrary to Picodrive's "sound".

Worth buying ? No, not yet.
If they can tweak the speed so it runs like picodrive... yes.
Also, forget about sound! It will never run good on current mobiles with sound.

v7e6j5
30-01-2005, 05:24 AM
It's not 2 bad on my QD. It's a toss up between no sound/no lag or sound/with lag. So i'm playing it without sound.

Sony_Ericsson
30-01-2005, 08:06 PM
What do I think of vsun? I think it's impressive that they have made a snes-emu with sound, that runs on a 104 mhz phone. All games that I have tried on my N-gage QD however, is unplayable with sound on. Even without sound, only a few of the games runs at a almost acceptable speed. That said, still some of the games I tried run at an ok speed.

I've compared a couple of games that was released on both Megadrive and SNES; Mortal Kombat and Another World/Out of this world. MK runs perfectly on Picodrive, but is almost to slow to play on vsun. Same with Out of this world. The games look a little better in the SNES-versions perhaps, but not enough to choose to play them on vsun instead of pico.

Then there is the problems with the various resolutions in vsun. There are three two choose from but they all have problems:

256x224: The picture is bigger than the screen. Graphics look ok.

176x208: The picture fits perfectly, but it makes the graphics look crappy.

224x256: Turned 90 degrees, and bigger than the screen. On N-gage/QD it's far from optimal to have the d-pad on top.

The maker of Picodrive seems to have solved these problems. I hope later versions of vsun will do the same.

v7e6j5
31-01-2005, 12:22 PM
So far i tried a few game on the Vsun emulator. They work that's not the problem, no sounds is my biggest problem. Vsun is good, but not great. Hopeful a ver.1.1 will be better. Then i can buy there 3rd. emulator, & not have 2 use a cracked ver. any longer.

PsychiatricHelp
31-01-2005, 02:08 PM
vsun is crap at the moment. Its too slow for decent gameplay. I can't believe they are selling this its not 100% playable yet.

Remember when yewnes came out? It was in this stage too, every couple of months it kept updating til it was finally playable. I guess we just have tto wait a while

v7e6j5
31-01-2005, 07:41 PM
Hey PsychiatricHelp! U might not want 2 say that, Vsun is crap 2 loud. Some ppl think it's the greatest thing, since Cheese Wiz. :lol:

fannypad
01-02-2005, 02:56 AM
Some ppl think it's the greatest thing, since Cheese Wiz. :lol:

You wot?


Anyway, I agree with psychiatrichelp, vSun is definitely nowhere near retail quality yet.

And I don't know where all these reports of it running "perfectly" on the 6630 come from; it runs all the games I've tried like a complete dog (Super Mario World, Mario Kart, F-Zero, Donkey Kong 1 and 3, and a few more). Yes, it's impressive that it works, but at the moment it's just an expensive gimmick, nothing more.

It can only improve with time.

iNF|NiTY
01-02-2005, 08:04 AM
Games which use any extra chips, like F-Zero, will never run very well. It cannot improve with time if its already stretched the hardware limits, and their programming skills...

Vazkor
01-02-2005, 04:20 PM
People always try to complain about everybody's work, it's slow, it's not 100% compatible, but still they want to use the program without paying for it.

You don't like it? Don't use it.

You use? Just pay for it, we're not talking about some crappy N-Gage game at 50 dollars for Christ sake, let's support this people work ...

momagic
01-02-2005, 07:09 PM
The maker of Picodrive seems to have solved these problems. I hope later versions of vsun will do the same.


yep, hope so!

Quake3000
01-02-2005, 07:56 PM
atleast did vampent give out the emu with sound support so the people can see how it work!that are the thing the picodrive people didn`t do and vsun have emulated the sound 100% picodrive just 10% of the sound! and now it seem`s like picodrive are on a big vacation=P and the vampent guyes will keep up the work! so i don`t blame vampent for something they have really showen theres programming skills and i think they still rock!but buy it would i not do yeat!

DarkSaber
01-02-2005, 08:16 PM
atleast did vampent give out the emu with sound support so the people can see how it work!that are the thing the picodrive people didn`t do and vsun have emulated the sound 100% picodrive just 10% of the sound! and now it seem`s like picodrive are on a big vacation=P and the vampent guyes will keep up the work! so i don`t blame vampent for something they have really showen theres programming skills and i think they still rock!but buy it would i not do yeat!

Hey bro,Vampent guys are working hard because they want to earn money..don't forget that AG pull out picodrive on his spare time and FOR FREE...wot do you pretend,to reduce him in slavery and annihilate his social life to have a full sound support from picodrive?
And remember that vSun is unplayable with sound on,and if you turn it off it's still years slower than pico.so wot's the point?I respect Vampent a lot (along with IDreams,DigiRed & Co.),but AG got my admiration for sacrifice LOTS of his time just to make s60 community a LOT happier with his free emulator.

Judicator
03-02-2005, 03:06 PM
Hey bro,Vampent guys are working hard because they want to earn money..don't forget that AG pull out picodrive on his spare time and FOR FREE...wot do you pretend,to reduce him in slavery and annihilate his social life to have a full sound support from picodrive?
And remember that vSun is unplayable with sound on,and if you turn it off it's still years slower than pico.so wot's the point?I respect Vampent a lot (along with IDreams,DigiRed & Co.),but AG got my admiration for sacrifice LOTS of his time just to make s60 community a LOT happier with his free emulator.

Couldn't have expressed my emotions better. I was also a bit angry after reading the quoted post before...

Quake3000
04-02-2005, 12:37 AM
my point was that pico and vsun are both good emu`s but i like the vampent`s vsun more since they give it out with 100% sound emulation and then people can see how it work and that are really slow!and alot want sound on pico too but it`s not worth it anyway since it are too slow on todays s60 phones so i don`t blame any of the emu`s i like them both and ag are also doing a greate job!maybe my first post on this could be missunderstanded :P