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Kontact
12-10-2002, 07:13 AM
plz try this.. it's a demo version...
a little about what is spose to do or what its for?
the retrieve all just messed a load of my flash files... :mad:
retrieve all sounds like it would be getting all the ringtones from another flash file, not cutting them down to 7kb files !! :mad:
Kontact
13-10-2002, 02:20 AM
yes. i think the retrieve option job is to get the ppm tonversion sections as a whole. so that we could also put it in other flash..
i do like to hear the specific on what happend to ur flash files. as i do expect some problems to pop up.
phonedudes
13-10-2002, 08:16 AM
Well,
Im sure you know we are going to tell you it does NOT work with the TDMA flash files...
Not sure how you are determining where the ppm section is. Whether you simply loop through looking for the ppm header or use set pointers... But the ppm header of tdma flashes is identical. So your prog displayed 'No ppm found'
On to the 'Americas' GSM type files it worked on most. We didnt appear to have any problems using the retrieve function whether it be one by one or retrieve all. However we didnt reflash to check but it did retrieve and save them in what appeared to be the complete tone.
The flash files that cause problems were the ones that your prog could not determine the model # of phone and displayed 'unknown'. These caused the program to crash and NOT be able to exit!! You need to have 'on error ' set to halt the program or something.
Could you explain a little bit about the 'alert tone explorer'. Not sure if that functions correctly or what.
Regards,
PHONEDUDES :) :grin: :)
Originally posted by Kontact
yes. i think the retrieve option job is to get the ppm tonversion sections as a whole. so that we could also put it in other flash..
i do like to hear the specific on what happend to ur flash files. as i do expect some problems to pop up.
I open my 6150 flash file, and select retrieve tones and select my 5210 flash file to get its tones.... however, it chops my 5210 flash file down to 7kb
it does this on all flash files... 6210, 7110, 3315 etc
retrieve tones does NOT retrieve tones from the flash file
Kontact
13-10-2002, 02:40 PM
@liam
try this. if u want to get the tonversion section of the ppm. like for ex, u have a 35 ringtones on a 3210. then the retrieve option will get the said section and save it. so most probabdly the size depends on the ringtones.
sadly the demo. don't allowed u to saved the flash only the ringtone in *ton format.
save option for retrieve all and retrieve one is allowed so that if u try to add rtttl. u will be able to retirve it in ton format and can evaluate if my convertion is correct. but it will be trouble some as u will need to use some other way to insert it on the mcu/ppm flash. i would really appreciate some reports as i will try to improve it...
@phoneduede
yes. i have not tested it on tdma phones... :(
phonedudes
13-10-2002, 04:41 PM
@Kontact
Can you explain what exactly the 'alert tone explorer' is supposed to do. A lot of the boxes dont appear to display the entire text so we cant read some but not sure what each function is supposed to do.
PHONEDUDES
Kontact
14-10-2002, 12:49 AM
the 4 sms alerts and some more alerts. depends on what nokia models. since it's a DEMO u can't change the alerts of the flash file.
but u can see the locations and u could try doing it manually..
Kontact
17-10-2002, 01:34 AM
hello ppl
i recently include a "play" button so that we can hear rtttl first on the speaker.
i will upload it on saturday.
Kontact Xplorer v1.0
- it can translate special effect!
- it can change alert tone SMS (longer). depends on free space under MCU!
- as of now it can change all SMS alerts and some more alerts.
- it uses RTTTL tones and convert it into alert tones/ringtone.
- can also use *ton files as source of tones.
- has mcu/ppm chksum corrections.
- flash chksum calc (last 6 bytes)
- Ringtone on 51xx,61xx,3xxx,8xxx can be replace/retrieve/delete, using RTTTL/TON ringtone as source.
- on 62xx,71xx it can replace alert and ringtone.
- it can replace/retrieve ringtone one by one or by bulk.
v1.0a
- added play button, to hear the ringtone play.
more to come.... 8)
regards,
SubZero
17-10-2002, 09:31 AM
i want a save option.
how can i save?
Kontact
18-10-2002, 02:26 AM
u have to buy a registered copy... and the save optioned will be available... email me at
[email protected]
anyone would like to report bugs? specially on the special effect tone.?
any suggestion to improve the program? thanks ppl
regards,
NokDoc
18-10-2002, 04:18 PM
Hi Mr. Kontact,
>> any suggestion to improve the program?
Yes, make it nFree please.
NokDoc
SubZero
18-10-2002, 04:37 PM
yes..
please make this free for us...
Kontact
19-10-2002, 01:44 AM
hello nokdoc
i really appreciate ur help on the last 4 bytes and i will surely give u a free copy... :) thanks again
about making it free.... sure to a selected guys. i won't hesistate. specially those who help me. hope u understand... :)
theremoids
19-10-2002, 08:17 AM
how much?
SubZero
19-10-2002, 10:21 AM
and how?
i want to pay with my credit card....
Kontact
21-10-2002, 01:56 AM
@theremoids
hello fellow pinoy.
do email me or contact number is 0916-503-6964.
@subzero
i will chk if our acct could acct ur credit cards. will email u.
new updates v1.0a
- fixed rtttl parsing bugs.
- playtone added.
registered version has all options enabled...
more to come...
regards,
[email protected]
@Kontact
Contact me please via icq............if u can......havent seen u online for a while...........
Kontact
22-10-2002, 12:56 AM
ok.. i will... :)
Kontact
23-10-2002, 03:08 AM
fixed 62xx and has ringtone player..
Kontact
02-11-2002, 04:45 PM
latest demo version..
just read about box to see what's been fix and added.
regards,
Kontact
09-11-2002, 01:56 AM
- Can Change the 4 Alert SMS to a Longer Tone. and some Alerts like Battery Charge Start/Shut Alert, etc
Using RTTTL format /Ton/re APAC or finland format as INPUTS...
- ADD/CHANGE ringtone...
- has FAID Calculation for customize flash files.
- Calc last 4 bytes (flash chksum) of MCU/PPM.
- kill faid incorporated. (thanks geggo,joox n nokdoc)
- added playtone (ringtone) preview.
after making sure that alerts n ringtone r ok.. i will proceed to other mods. like menus, graqphics, etc.
regards,
mobilerocks
09-11-2002, 09:21 AM
whats the price of your software mate ? and why u charging for your software like TNP ?
What does this program do? I had a look on this program weeks ago, but forgot what it does. So I downloaded the new demo but Key is expired. :(
alucard
10-11-2002, 04:18 AM
boss, how much kung kababayan?:D :D :D
Kontact
11-11-2002, 01:21 AM
@joox
i will recheck the demo.. why it expired. just try d/l the latest demo version and i think it should work.
it could change ringtone and alerts. same as ppmedit or flashtone. the difference as of now is that.
it could accept or convert rtttl w/ special effect.
ton format, whethere apac/finland/62xx. as source.
it has playtone preview.
for ex. if u want to change/insert a ton format on your alerts or ringtone. and it so happen that ur ton format is apac. u can use kxplorer and it will auto convert and put it on a finland format. the ton format as i know is 3 types.. apac/finland/62xx.
i do plan to add more... 8-)
if u still have problem about the key. email me and i'll try to see what's wrong.
regards,
Kontact
11-11-2002, 01:26 AM
@alucard, @ mobilrocks
as of today. i am not yet so sure, how much i plan to sell. i will start selling on version 1.1. what i am doing is updating and trying to fix some bugs and improve the program till it reaches 1.1 and will start selling.
that's why i did release the demo to find out if there r bugs. yep, i know it's limited but it's better than none. 8-) actually u can use the dem as a converter from rtttl to ton format.
thanks,
Kontact
14-11-2002, 03:36 AM
hello ppl
the first 3 demo. 1.0, 1.0a,1.0b has a total 30 day limits.
this new has 14 days. ver 1.0e
for those who already use the first 3. that expired use this version 1.0e.
for those who have not tried kxdemo.exe. u can still use the first 3 version for 30 days.
read about box for features n bug fixed.
regards,
Shopping_Guide
15-11-2002, 11:04 PM
Bugs reporting
When i add ringtone, try to delete ringtones betweeen number 1 till 10, will encounter error. But deleting ringtone number 11 or more, error won't happen.
@Kontact : May i have a free copy of KxPlorer?
SG
Kontact
16-11-2002, 01:11 AM
thanks. i will try to see if it happens again. btw, what version n unit is it. i'll check it for sure.
about free copy. some ppl is also asking. sadly i cannot give free copies as of now.
regards,
Kontact
17-11-2002, 02:21 PM
yes. it's was a bug. but fixed already.
bug is if u add then delete. but if u just delete it's ok.
this happens because of un initialize variable on the add routine. 8-)
ver. 1.0f
-add inverted lcd option.
regards,
Shopping_Guide
19-11-2002, 05:44 AM
bugs reporting
basically, the bug is after changing any ringtone (deleting won't trigger the bug) then change any alert tone (standard/special/Beep once/Ascending) with any ringtone you like. Then click "recalc PPM".
Boom...
"Access violation at address 00000013. Write of address 047FDCD8"
But... when i click "Recalc MCU" 1st, before "recalc PPM", bug won't be triggered.
SG
Kontact
19-11-2002, 08:59 AM
it's really nice to hear that u do take time to use kxplorer and reports bugs. anyways, i did try ur report;
this what i did;
open 3310 5.59 G
change 2 ringtone
change the standard. ( i use *ton format on both)
then recalc ppm.
anyway i will still check what u said. but i suspect that the demo has some un initialize var that the reg has that i remove.
i will still try to release ver 1.0f maybe by 2morow.
btw on the ringtone add/change/retrieve if the format of the inputted ringtone is ok. it will not have access violation and u will see the dialog box that said recalc PPM okay.
regards,
Shopping_Guide
19-11-2002, 10:00 AM
No, when changing (both on ringtone and aler tone) do not use ton format, use RTTL format instead. I use 3210-600.fls with C lang pack. But i'm sure this bug will occur on all nokia flash file.
Another bug i found :
In the (alert Tone/Ring Tone/PlayTone) try to play/add any non Nokring file.
This text file should contain plain text, not RTTL file (try it with netlog.txt or detlog.txt, both lie in C: dir ). Then it shows :
"This program has performed an illegal operation."
And suddenly quit.
I tried this method to several similar programs.
1. Logo Manager; doesn't sound (offcourse; because not nokring format) but not quit. :-)
2. Nok2Phone ; shows message box "The file being opened is not in Nokring format". And not quit. :-)
3. CodingWorkshop ; doesnt sound (offcourse; because not nokring format) but not quit. :-)
4. PPMEdit 1.0h ; same with KxPlorer. :-( I've emailed tnp about this.
SG
Shopping_Guide
19-11-2002, 11:34 AM
Ok, the problem when changing both ringtone and alertone is when i use long tone. File is at attachment.
please use this file for changing both ringtone and alert tone. You will encounter the bug. You may ask me why i use long tone for alert tone? Well, for ascending mode in alert tone, we should/can use a long tone, am i right?
SG
Kontact
19-11-2002, 04:32 PM
hello
i just d/l the file.
about ur bug report i will check it..
yes. if u try to load a *.txt that doesnot contain rttl. it will have unexpected result. this is bec. i have not yet done a file routine to check first if it's a valid rtttl file. but i will do it for sure.
i think what i just use there is check the last 3 char of the file. or file extension.
i think if my memory serves me right try it on 6210 ppm. i think the file routine there is different than the one i use on the 3xxx.
it will check the content of the said file.. thou, not so sure yet.
they r not yet the same bec. i am still experimenting on it.
but it will be fixed for sure.
about the long ringtone. yes, will chk it. u can use long alerts even on beep once... 8-)
ok. hav just check what u mentioned. the bug about banderie did not occur here. i think the main reason for your bug is demo.. i will try to check the uninitialize variables that could cause the bug on demo and fix it..
regards,
thanks.
Shopping_Guide
20-11-2002, 02:01 AM
Sorry for bothering you again. Well..., i hope not :-)
About the "playtone" menu, the speed is (still) too fast. Timing is not correct yet. Please correct it.
I hope your convertion from rttl to .re will be as good as PPMEdit.
I can't check current demo's convertion because it doesn't allow me to save.
Please read my post about Flashtone 2.10's bug
SG
Kontact
20-11-2002, 02:36 AM
yes. the play tune routine can be easily adjusted. i am using a jurasic pentium 166mmx. 8-) sometimes the sound is not quite right..
u could try to load rtttl on ringtone and saved it. there u will be able to see the convertion.
kxplore can convert rtttl with special effect. i did try to run ppmedit demo and tried to convert an rtttl w/ special effect and noticed that ppmedit does not convert special effect. maybe in his ver 1.0h he has.
i do know also that i could adjust the octave. about the conversion of rtttl to re yes i can do some improvement with it. thou, i will need some samples.
tell u frankly... the routine are there it will just need some tweaking.
it's ok.. i mean ur bug reporting or suggestions.
regard,
Shopping_Guide
20-11-2002, 08:21 AM
kxplore can convert rtttl with special effect. i did try to run ppmedit demo and tried to convert an rtttl w/ special effect and noticed that ppmedit does not convert special effect. maybe in his ver 1.0h he has.
I think (i didn't check it till now) in PPMEdit 1.0h still can't add special effect. Also, all tones converted by PPMEdit 1.0h look likes has vibration at the whole song. There's no pause in it. Cause i only saw 0A01 in the beginning. There's no 0AFE in the middle till the end of .re file (i didn't check it till now as well, cause i sold my 3210 last week. Wanna buy 3410 :-) ). Maybe because the main purpose of PPMEdit's creation is not ringtone convertion. So your main competitor would be Flashtone 2.10
In Flashtone 2.10, we can't make longer for alert tone, but yours can do that easily. As far as i know, there's no special effect in Flashtone 2.10, but yours has it as well.
Second competitor for your product would be MAKflashtone (now it's free). But believe me, its ringtone convertion is bad.
SG
Shopping_Guide
20-11-2002, 08:35 AM
Talking about special effect. Do you know how to make my tones has beats like predhik's tones? You know, shortest tones between real tones. Please listen predhick's tones. You will understand what i'm talking about.
For my tones, please download it at my post about Flashtone 2.10's bug.
SG
Kontact
20-11-2002, 03:46 PM
i just d/l the rtttl/re u post. it's not special effect. do d/l the rtttl i post. i will try to listen to what u mention that it has short tones. thou, my ear is no good in music.. 8-(
SubZero
21-11-2002, 02:35 AM
@Shopping_Guide
who is predhik? what is his exact name in forum? where can i find his tones like "shortest tones between real tones" type :)
WildSwan
21-11-2002, 03:21 AM
Flashtone is out of the scene since its development has stopped.
The author retires. MAK FLashtone is the real close competitor. It inherited the Flashtone vision plus it adds the capability to flash.
A ring tone and a flasher program I should say. :)
Originally posted by Shopping_Guide
I think (i didn't check it till now) in PPMEdit 1.0h still can't add special effect. Also, all tones converted by PPMEdit 1.0h look likes has vibration at the whole song. There's no pause in it. Cause i only saw 0A01 in the beginning. There's no 0AFE in the middle till the end of .re file (i didn't check it till now as well, cause i sold my 3210 last week. Wanna buy 3410 :-) ). Maybe because the main purpose of PPMEdit's creation is not ringtone convertion. So your main competitor would be Flashtone 2.10
In Flashtone 2.10, we can't make longer for alert tone, but yours can do that easily. As far as i know, there's no special effect in Flashtone 2.10, but yours has it as well.
Second competitor for your product would be MAKflashtone (now it's free). But believe me, its ringtone convertion is bad.
SG
Kontact
21-11-2002, 05:32 AM
about rtttl convertion.. i base mine with luduz and in nokiafreesite and flashtone. 0a01-0afe is on/off vibra. will try to improve it more. the playtune also need some tweaking bec. low notes like croak doesnot sound ringht on the play tune... i did also try to compare it with logomanager and flashtone. not yet with mak flashtone and ppmedit but will do that for sure.
about special effect jdx1893 help me with his samples (rtttl w/s_effects). 8-)
thanks,
theremoids
21-11-2002, 06:39 AM
hi! kontact... pre... will your software be able to put the "s_effect" in ordinary rtttl/rtx tones? like the "iguana composer" - too bad iguana can't save the tone as rtttl or rtx or re.
the "s_effect" makes the tones sound cool... like the downloaded tones of SMART.
coz if "kontact xplorer" could do that, i will really buy!
Kontact
21-11-2002, 08:00 AM
if the rtttl contains the special effect notes. (s=S, s=C, s=N). kxplorer will be able to convert it into *.ton and alerts.
but if the rtttl has not special notes inside. no way.. i can convert it. maybe if i am a musician i could. 8-)
btw, i have not tried iguana. can it convert an ordinary rtttl w/o special effect into a ton that has special effect. if yes. then i must learn how.. to do that.. i will try iguana sw.. where can i d/l it?
regards,
theremoids
21-11-2002, 08:10 AM
@kontact... thanks for the reply.
you can download Iguana Composer from:
http://www.iguanamobile.com/sms/en/main_freeware.htm
Iguana saves the file as ANT (.ant), if only it can be saved as rtttl or rtx or re...
or maybe if KXPLORER could upload ANT file.
Kontact
21-11-2002, 03:22 PM
i d/l them will try what u said..
thanks
Shopping_Guide
22-11-2002, 02:42 PM
@subzero
His post was here http://nokiafree.org/forums/t5272/s.html
@kontact
Would you like to tell me what are s=S, s=C, s=N ?
SG
Kontact
23-11-2002, 03:37 AM
i think the S=s is like the stacato on logomanager (SS). what this does is make a note into 2 notes. one long and one short.
S=c = continues, S=n = normal.
regards,
Shopping_Guide
23-11-2002, 04:07 PM
s=S (Staccato) is what i was talking about. make the sound short. And thx for your tone. it's pretty cool, i like it. can't wait to flash it to my (incoming) 3410. :-)
BTW, you have other cool tones for me?
SG
Evil Neo
24-11-2002, 05:03 AM
hi
i can save ringtones useing the program to .Ton can i use it with winddp ????
Kontact
25-11-2002, 01:18 AM
@shopping_guide
here's another one.
@evil neo
i have not yet tried the ton format of winddp. but if it uses ton format. the one inside ppm ringtone section. then it's the same. u can surely use it.
WildSwan
25-11-2002, 05:38 AM
listen to this tone you are thanking Kontac for? :)
Originally posted by Shopping_Guide
s=S (Staccato) is what i was talking about. make the sound short. And thx for your tone. it's pretty cool, i like it. can't wait to flash it to my (incoming) 3410. :-)
BTW, you have other cool tones for me?
SG
theremoids
25-11-2002, 06:35 AM
@WildSwan... this is it... cool tone!
baobeidui:d=8,o=6,s=N,b=160:4c,4d,4f,s=S,c7,f,s=N,4f,s=S,c7,f,s=N,4f,s=S,c7,f,s=N,4a,4c7,4d7,s=S,d7,f,s=N,4c7,s=S,c7,a,s=N,4a,s=S,c7,a,s=N,4f,4a,4g,s=S,d7,f,s=N,4a,s=S,d7,f,s=N,32a,4g,s=S,d7,h,s=N,4f,4a,4g,s=S,h,f,s=N,4a,s=S,h,g,s=N,4c,s=S,c7,a#
theremoids
25-11-2002, 06:40 AM
@kontact... any idea how we can create those cool ss tones? like the ones you attached... elise(remix).txt and baobeidui.txt.
Kontact
26-11-2002, 01:37 AM
it was given to me by jdx1883. i have no idea how it was made. 8-(
regards,
WildSwan
26-11-2002, 03:03 AM
Thanks therem.
Originally posted by theremoids
@WildSwan... this is it... cool tone!
baobeidui:d=8,o=6,s=N,b=160:4c,4d,4f,s=S,c7,f,s=N,4f,s=S,c7,f,s=N,4f,s=S,c7,f,s=N,4a,4c7,4d7,s=S,d7,f,s=N,4c7,s=S,c7,a,s=N,4a,s=S,c7,a,s=N,4f,4a,4g,s=S,d7,f,s=N,4a,s=S,d7,f,s=N,32a,4g,s=S,d7,h,s=N,4f,4a,4g,s=S,h,f,s=N,4a,s=S,h,g,s=N,4c,s=S,c7,a#
Kontact
29-11-2002, 02:50 AM
Kontact Xplorer v1.0g
You must use a flashing program, like knok or rolis flasher ... this program is not a flasher.
what kxplorer can do;
Alerts.
- it can convert Special Effect RTTTL to ton/re format!
- it can change alert tone SMS (longer).
like start/shut, battery charge and others to follow...
- as of now it can change all SMS alerts and some more alerts.
- can also use rtttl/*ton files as source of tones.
- can allocate or adjust mcu free space. (use this if there is little space left. like 8210 v5.31 and 8850 v5.31)
Ringtones.
- Ringtone on 51xx,61xx,3xxx,8xxx can be replace/retrieve/delete, using RTTTL/TON ringtone as source.
- on 62xx,71xx it can replace alerts and ringtone.
- it can replace/retrieve ringtone one(RTTTL) by one or by bulk(ton files).
Others.
- has mcu/ppm chksum corrections.
- flash chksum calc (last 6 bytes).
- kill MCU/FAID.
- Inverted Lcd Via Software patch.
- has faid calculation via mbus.
- added "Playtune" button, to hear the ringtone play (RTTTL/ton).
REGISTERED VERSION WILL HAVE ALL FEATURES ENABLED!!!
more to come.... 8)
regards,
[email protected]
Shopping_Guide
30-11-2002, 05:09 PM
I found a bug (again?) in KxPlorer 1.0e
All ocatave tones will be converted lower. I mean if my rttl using o=6, then the output re will has 1 octave lower, it is o=5.
Please corret it.
Further research on using your sw, your sw is great great great!!!
I really really happy. And the sound effect is working as well. Using your rttl, baoduidui's (whatever the name is) sound is great. No distortion. :) I can assure you there's no bug about long tone (c,c sounded as long c). Cause i've tried many many rttl files. Bug about long tone still be found at PPMEdit 1.0h
( i thought it was Flashtone 21.0, now i realized it was PPMEdit 1.0h) But the advantages i can get from PPMEdit is much rather then this bug. Hei... i still can use your sw to convert my rttl by using retrieve all tones. But how?
It's easy. Since your current sw (1.0e) won't let me to save the flash file, i just simply insert or change my rttl. Then using retrieve all button. Save the file, seek my inserted tone in Hexworkshop. Then save it in new file. :)
SG
Kontact
01-12-2002, 05:35 PM
about the octave yes. i could fixed it. i am not quite good in hearing tones. 8-(
>Further research on using your sw, your sw is great great great!!!
thanks
about how u saved. yes. i really did allow the convertion so that ppl like u can test it. and am happy u do really test/use the sw.
u r right on how u used the retrieve all and hex or any program to insert the whole tone section..
it's just that it would be easier if i enabled the saved flash. 8-)
btw, i just added another optioned. this new optioned will allow u to retrieved those ringtones that we recieved. and it's save in ton/re format. 8-) sadly it will only be for registered user.
i could also include sending ringtone via mbus. it can use rttl or ton/re format then send via mbus to the saved ringtone.
regards,
shaidi
23-12-2002, 12:11 AM
where can we get the full version of xplorer, has anyone cracked it, where can i get it
Kontact
23-12-2002, 01:24 AM
only registered user have full version...
regards,
monxxx
23-12-2002, 12:22 PM
nice software... ;-)
monxxx -> NOKMASTER
+63 9195262682
http://www.nokmaster2002.cjb.net
:D nice sw it make us easy to change the tone no nid to use hex workshop to cut n paste
gsmsalers
26-04-2003, 04:26 PM
Hi.
I checked http://kxplorer.gsmunlock.sk/
I have few questions.
1.But why there are have different faid calculator1.1 by greenapple for modified flash? I never have seen this soft before. This means kxplorer generated flash file have different faid algorithm? So I can't apply faid with noktool1.8 or eeprom tools?
2. With kxplorer can I change edit flash version and date ?
3. Also I can add mcu free space? This free space came from mcu or ppm unused space? If I reserve space for mcu from ppm by this soft then can I use this mcu with another different ppm file?
Thanks for attention.
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