Flash 7110 V4.80 with V5.01 ?

[Pumper]

Hi,

As a newbie, I've read the rules and done a search and have lots of useful info, thanks !

What I don't have is the actual firmware. I searched for many hours. Could someone please point me in the right direction please ? (Its a UK phone if that makes a difference).

Secondly, some of the inf was obviously old, as its an old phone, so is there a more 'up-to-date' method for flashing this phone, perhaps under XP ?

Many Thanks.

[dvirus666]

Welcome to Nfree. Here is the link to the 7710 firmware.
http://www.filelodge.com/files/room17/432477/Flash/7110_NSE-5.rar

once downloaded join the MCU and any PPM as they all contain English.

Flashing under XP use Rolis or Knok (But slower) and you will need USERPORT.
all of which can also be download from my site (Link below)

[Pumper]

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once downloaded join the MCU and any PPM as they all contain English.

Flashing under XP use Rolis or Knok (But slower) and you will need USERPORT.
all of which can also be download from my site (Link below)

Many thanks thats more than I expected - fantastic !!

Just couple of questions (as expected I guess). I've got userport and there's a doc in there so I'll work that one out.

There were 2 versions of Rolis on your site, (478b6 and 479) so which one would be best for me ?

Secondly, I am not sure what you mean by 'join the MCU and any PPM' is this a step I need to do or will it become obvious once in the Rolis software - ie you just select the ones you want ?

The rar contains an eep file, an MCU file and many A-K plus O files - do I use them all or just the eep, the MCU and a single one of the A-K plus O files ? I assume only 1 of those so is there any particular recomendation for which one I should go with (the 7110 is not the 'e'/Orange version and its a uk phone, if that helps) ?

Many thanks !

[dvirus666]

There were 2 versions of Rolis on your site, (478b6 and 479) so which one would be best for me ? Use 478b6, I think its better and more stable then 479.

Secondly, I am not sure what you mean by 'join the MCU and any PPM' is this a step I need to do or will it become obvious once in the Rolis software - ie you just select the ones you want ? Rolis should let you load the MCU and PPM separate (Load MCU and Load PPM buttons) but if it does not you can use nasNFCon which will join the MCU & PPM in to one file.

The rar contains an eep file, an MCU file and many A-K plus O files - do I use them all or just the eep, the MCU and a single one of the A-K plus O files ? I assume only 1 of those so is there any particular recomendation for which one I should go with (the 7110 is not the 'e'/Orange version and its a uk phone, if that helps) ? Forget the eep file. This is a so called virgin eeprom. You will need the MCU and one of the PPM packs. I am in the UK and always use pack A so try that one.
After you manage to flash your phone do a Full Factory Reset using an mbus cable or your phone will reboot every 30 or so seconds.

Make a full backup first incase of problems.

[Pumper]

Thanks again.

Progress so far, I made 2 backups with 479 (before I saw your recommendation to use 478_6) and they were different by binary file compare, so I'll try 478_6 to see if I can get 2 identical files first (else I'll feel a little unsafe writing, if it wont read consistently).

Presumably I still need to do the update FAID part and that can be done inside Rolis (479, but not 478_6) but with the MBUS cable on instead right ? or should I use Nokia Tools or some other progie for that bit ?

Also, I've found a listing of what languages the PPMs support and it seems 'D' is the standard European version with Eng, Fre, Ger, Ita, Tur.

Thanks for your help so far, I'll post again if it works - AND if it doesn't, of course :eek:

[Pumper]

I did the flashing which went OK. Phone would switch on then go off again. Tried doing the MBUS bit and thats where it all fell apart. Phone now not working and it wont stay on long enough to connect to MBUS. I did manage a connection and an FAID set and I did manage an MBUS factory reset but I dont think they took.

So what to do now ? Try a virgin eprom or try re-flashing the backup or what ?

Cheers.

[NokDoc]

Hi,

Difference Rolis 4.78 > 4.79 is only 3410 support I thought, for Ur type both will work ok.

After flashing yes, U need to (quick) set faid, with the datacable and one of the many tools around.

If faid is not set yet, the phone will not connect to the network, and it will keep rebooting around each 20 seconds.

Those 20 seconds supposed to be sufficient time to press the set faid software command.

If U sure the datacable is ok (try read some data 1st), then the command supposed to have worked ok.

However, if the flash checksum inside the flashfile is not correct, the command will have no effect.

Which means, for modders, they have to recalc or disable that checksum 1st.

But for 'upgraders' like U this means this is NO original Nokia factory file, there's been messed inside, find some more reliable source.
( http://home.planet.nl/~kdoren/ )

Last tip, there is no need to overwrite Ur own eeprom data.

Good Luck

NokDoc

[Pumper]

Hi,

However, if the flash checksum inside the flashfile is not correct, the command will have no effect.

Which means, for modders, they have to recalc or disable that checksum 1st.

NokDoc

Hmmm, the suggestion here then is that the V5.01 that dvirus666 kindly gave me may not be reliable and/or checksums not correct - did I read that right ?

Well, the further progress thus far is that I've now reflashed my backup (Rolis 478_b6) and that works spot on again, so the flashing process itself seems to be reliable. So now I've downloaded the file you've (NokDoc) kindly linked me to and will give that a go. I was going to try dvirus666's file in Knok-Phoenix as some other stuff I've read has said that's more reliable, albeit slower than Rolis, however, I'll now try this new file as suggested. Many thanks !

[NokDoc]

Hi,

To be sure, off course it doesn't mean Mr. DVirus is not reliable.

Instead, he's one of my personal favorits here. ;)

My opinion was based on what I 'most likely assume', while I recognise the symptoms.

(I don't have an account there so I can't dl to test this file myself)

U mention U are playing with seperated mcu & ppm files.

I know certain possibilities even original files sometimes still don't seem to run.

All because of some shortness in the flasher tools, they don't clear the area between the mcu & ppm.

If there was existing data there from earlier flashings, these bytes will disturb the correct checksum calculation.

And that calculation is needed, with a false value U will get a false calculated value to set the faid later.

(experts: sounds pretty odd, but setting faid command will always be succesful)

Same could have happened in the tool or method U used to join the 2 files.

Explaining whetter it might have happened is rather complex, it's easier just to give U a file which I think would forfill all Ur needs.

The differences in ppm packs don't matter, about every package U use will have English in it.

And the fact it is already combined with all good checksums is almost convincing me we closed out all other chances to possible failures that might occur.

Flash it to 20.0000, set faid, possibly open some locks again, and do a factory reset.

NokDoc

[Pumper]

Hi,

Flash it to 20.0000, set faid, possibly open some locks again, and do a factory reset.

NokDoc

OK, done all that and phone just comes on for 20 secs and back off again - this is with the file that NokDoc linked me too and its the same thing that happened with dvirus666's file.

Perhaps you just cant go direct from 4.80 to 5.01 ? Perhaps I should try an intermediate stage, maybe 4.88 or something (if I had it, which I dont).

Or perhaps should I try the virgin eeprom, and if I did, what would I have to do extra to get the phone working again ?

Its just not looking good for some unknown reason and even going back to my original backup, I seem to have lost the startup logo (shaking hands).

Cheers.

[NokDoc]

Hehe,

The symptoms are 99.9% due to the set faid command.

Something must go wrong while setting it with the datacable.

About the virgin eeprom, yep, even while we advice it's useless, U still could try.

As long as U have the backup, U can always reset the whole phone to that state.

The main thing U need to do, extra, is setting/ repairing the right (Ur) imei number.

NokDoc

[Pumper]

If its the faid not working, is there any way to pre-edit a eeprom file such that it could be uploaded with the correct setting already ?

Cheers.

[NokDoc]

Hi,

Good question, could be.

However, it's not that easy to know what value U must set there.

To calculate, it needs some phone specific values, which it normally loads while doing the 'set faid' command.

U can only read these values via mbus.

But when Ur mbus works, U might as well use it to set the faid.

Faid: Flash Authorisation ID, a security method to validate whetter a phone is allowed to use this new flash file.

NokDoc

[Pumper]

Well I've set FAID and the phone lights blinked. I've set SFR and it says at bottom of NokiaTool that all this has been sent. I dont know what else to do. Either both of those sets of files are bad, which is 99.99999% unlikely, or you simply cannot go from 4.80 direct to 5.01 (perhaps the eeprom structures are different ?). Anyway, if anyone has say V4.88, I could try that as an intermediate step.

Also I could try flashing a virgin eeprom, but I cant quite figure out how to do this, as the file is 24k and when you tr and load it in Rolis it complains about the wrong size. So now I am stuck :???:

[Pumper]

Its now working, but it needed a virgin eeprom and then updating to the original IEMI and SP locks etc via Nokiatool over MBUS.

However ! The display now lacks contrast - perhaps this is stored in the eeprom ? But its now hard to read the display. Its feeling like I cant win at the moment - V4.80 - which wont support PC Suite but I can read the display, or V5.01 which apprantly will support PC Suite, yet I can hardly read the phone !!

So, can someone please tell me how the hell I can put the display back to a readable state ? I have used the MBUS Reset and also the Factory Reset in the phone but to no avail.....

So close, yet so far...

Cheers.

:eek:

[mestrini]

use neb's DCT3 Repair Partner v3.5 as it has a contrast slider which might do the job and an IMEIR repair function that never failed me :-D

About the eeprom's wrong size it's because there's no real "virgin eeprom" but simply some file taken from a phone at some point (some "virgin" even have IMEI numbers on them :eek: ) and looks like that one wasn't properly "chopped" when separated from a full flash and isn't divisble by 64 (i think). If you 'd like i can provide an eeprom file with the correct size (i added some bytes to it ;) ) for you to try the last resort

cheers

[Pumper]

use neb's DCT3 Repair Partner v3.5 as it has a contrast slider which might do the job and an IMEIR repair function that never failed me :-D

About the eeprom's wrong size it's because there's no real "virgin eeprom" but simply some file taken from a phone at some point (some "virgin" even have IMEI numbers on them :eek: ) and looks like that one wasn't properly "chopped" when separated from a full flash and isn't divisble by 64 (i think). If you 'd like i can provide an eeprom file with the correct size (i added some bytes to it ;) ) for you to try the last resort

cheers

Many thanks, yes please can I try your 'virgin' ? Also where can I get this neb's DCT Repair Partner V3.5 from ? it sounds like it should allow me to finish this job off.

Cheers.

[mestrini]

I remember an old post by Kraze1984 where he (and others) posted a lot of "essential" tools but could not find it using the forum's search :-?

So i leave here the program i advised (see below) and also the eeprom with the correct file size, which i hope helps you get the phone up and running updated :D

good luck

[mestrini]

Many thanks, yes please can I try your 'virgin' ?

just read carefully what you wrote and it sounded a bit odd :lol:

[Pumper]

just read carefully what you wrote and it sounded a bit odd :lol:

Well you have to make it slightly more amusing as 8 hours of 'flashing' is dull enough to require some 'virgins' to make it more interesting ! :grin:

Thanks to everyone thats helped me, I'll have one final go and call it a day.

Cheers.

[Pumper]

Re-done the whole thing, it all works apart from no contrast. Although the slider on the DCT3RPv3.5 software works, it seems to have no effect, even doing a SW reset afterwards.

So that setting must be buried in the eeprom (which incidentally had a load german text messages etc in, which I've cleared).

But how to reset the contrast back to readable level ?

Cheers.

[mestrini]

Well, my suggestion is to try Wintesla since it's the software originaly used by Nokia and that changes eeprom values on-the-fly by manipulating some bits responsible for things like hidden menus and LCD contrast.

I made a tool that reads eeprom files (not reading phone via MBUS cable) and the eeprom i sent you has the LCD value 20 (scale is from 1 to 30) so the phone should be readable :-?

[Pumper]

Well, my suggestion is to try Wintesla since it's the software originaly used by Nokia and that changes eeprom values on-the-fly by manipulating some bits responsible for things like hidden menus and LCD contrast.

I made a tool that reads eeprom files (not reading phone via MBUS cable) and the eeprom i sent you has the LCD value 20 (scale is from 1 to 30) so the phone should be readable :-?

Thanks for the info. The eeprom you sent me was the same as that in the zip from the dutch site.

I have an idea that perhaps there was a different HW version. I vaguely remember seeing logomanager report HW version 300 when it was at V4.80 but HW version 400 when it was at 5.01 so perhaps V5.01 isn't compatible with the older hardware, hence why the things that should work, like contrast sliders, just dont, and also why the original eeprom from V4.80 would not work (FAID) with the MCU/PPM from V5.01 - is this a reasonable conclusion ?

Therefore I've called it a day, its just too much effort for an old phone, and gone back to V4.80 (for proper contrast). But was a good learning experience .

Cheers.

[dvirus666]

@ pumper: I have V5.01 here on my phone. I will email you a full backup of this if you want.. The lcd contrast is working fine :) If you do just PM me.

[Pumper]

@ pumper: I have V5.01 here on my phone. I will email you a full backup of this if you want.. The lcd contrast is working fine :) If you do just PM me.

Brilliant, yes please ! PM Sent.

Many thanks. By the way this site is excellent, I certainly didn't expect this level of help, so thanks to everyone thats helped me !

Presumably if I flash this and the contrast is still bad, then there must be different Hardware versions ?? Anyway, I'll post any further results. The depth of this thread could be a record ? Cheers.

[Pumper]

Thought I'd start a new branch as the other one is just too deep :eek:

So I had got to the point of flashed it to V5.01 but using a 'virgin' eeprom (actually this wasn't virgin as it was stuffed with German text messages) and got to the point that the phone worked but contrast bad and no matter what I did I couldn't bring the contrast back.

So, since then, I then read that (5.01, bad contrast) flash back and then hexedit'd the last 24k of the eeprom area and spliced in the eeprom (24k) in dvirus666's 7110 flash file, wrote the now hexedit flash back to the phone and then done the MBUS bits to reset the IEMI etc. Now what happened here was that it was fine, with the correct contrast *until* a Factory Reset was done (referring to the MBUS in NokiaTool reset, as opposed to the on-phone factory reset). This then made the contrast bad again, and unrecoverable.

So my theory now is that the factory reset/default settings are stored somewhere else in the flash, and it is those that are incorrect, not the last 24k of the eeprom itself.

Now if I dont do the Mbus factory reset then all is well, even if I do a factory reset on the phone, all stays OK and contrast is good.

Incidentally, not doing an Mbus factory reset does not seem to affect the phone's operation - i.e. it didn't seem to need this 'MBUS reset' doing it by this route, so at least this is a workaround, even if it doesn't fully explain the problems I've had.

So does any of the above indicate whats been happening here ?

Perhaps someone with a working 7110 with a V5.01 flash, could try an MBUS factory reset in NokiaTool (both v1.8 and v1.9 did the same thing for me) to see if that screws the contrast up (dont forget to take a back-up first, in-case it does)....

..... then at least we'll know if its a general issue or just an issue with my phone and the particlar flash, although this 'MBUS factory reset killed the contrast' issue happened with 2 different flashes, one from dvirus666 and one from the dutch site, so I doubt its a corrupt flash issue per se.


Cheers.

[mestrini]

I must say that 7110 became famous not only for showing in Matrix (i think) but because it was the buggiest firmware Nokia ever built (until 6600 came along :lol: )

Doesn't Dvirus have a 7110? Does the same contrast thing happen to him?

Maybe there are different ROM versions as it happens with 5110, 6110 and 8210

[NokDoc]

Hi,

Wanna go die-hard?

Contrast is a part of the 32 bits called the profile bits, which value is stored in the eeprom area.

Bit nr 25-29 represent a value for the contrast.

Address: 3FA096, Start: 0070, Len: 0004 Prod. Profile Bits: ('A7218090')

Split the 0x90 into bits, 10010000, and reverse that to 0000.1001

Remove the 3 last bits, the bit nr 30-32, they are used for other purposes.

So we end with the bits 00001, which represent a value of decimal 1.

In all my 3 phones, it's also 1, so this virgin eeprom seems to have a reasonable value.

Try to find the value which is in Ur other eeprom files U have around, compare them to the value 1 from which U saw was working best.

If there's differences, at least they are clarified now.

Now, changing bits there is possible too.

In that case, U must remind that this area of the flash is protected by a checksum.

The checksum is calced over the range 3FA066 - 3FA099 and is stored as 2 bytes at 3FA09A.

Good Luck ;)

NokDoc

[dvirus666]

Doesn't Dvirus have a 7110? Does the same contrast thing happen to him? The full flash I sent was a taken from my 7110. My contrast can be changed without any problems. If do a full factory reset on it then the contrast does need set again, but I just use NKProfile which is the only one that I can get to change the contrast as nothing else works for me anyway.

[Pumper]

The full flash I sent was a taken from my 7110. My contrast can be changed without any problems. If do a full factory reset on it then the contrast does need set again, but I just use NKProfile which is the only one that I can get to change the contrast as nothing else works for me anyway.

Must have a duff eeprom (or something else) as just tried nkprofile and this wont change contrast on my phone (although it works for other stuff like Net Monitor).

I'd like to try your full flash tho if poss ? (sent PMs yesterday).

Cheers.