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rossi19832002
04-11-2002, 07:16 PM
HI there every1,

does anyone know of a programme to change the IMEI on my 8310. mine has been blocked by the network and i have only just bought it. I would be grateful for the help,

can anyone post a programme or anyone have one,

thanks

|Lee|

Damian
13-01-2003, 02:59 PM
im afraid the only way to change the imei is to replace one of the chips inside. this isnt easy unless you know what you are doing. but the other alternative is to exchange your phone with someone in your situation who lives abroad.

hope this helps

Damian

74108520
13-01-2003, 03:19 PM
gsmhacking is no longer providing the service as far as i know.

There's no one reliable doing it now.

Damian
13-01-2003, 03:34 PM
phone swapping it is then.......:rolleyes:

NDI
02-02-2003, 07:19 PM
What country you live in?

Damian
03-02-2003, 09:16 AM
why do you know something we dont????? ;)

NDI
03-02-2003, 05:48 PM
Because i have a nokia 8310 blocked in UK and i'm willing to swap :D

Damian
04-02-2003, 09:27 AM
join the club.........

NDI
04-02-2003, 05:08 PM
You in the UK?

ywp207
04-02-2003, 06:52 PM
Here is a file i found, have no idea if it works or not havent tried.

NDI
04-02-2003, 07:27 PM
anyone found it to be a virus yet?

Edit-- Pfft, yet another fake

Damian
06-02-2003, 04:27 PM
well quite frankly im dissapointed. Is there anybody in the world that has the software knowledge to write it. I know i dont .... but im the lazy type......:p


Damian

NDI
06-02-2003, 06:52 PM
Sure, i have the knowledge to write it. Its pretty simple.

All we have to do is place our new imei in a spare place on the flash rom. Then we can change the place where the phone software looks for the imei. But the bad news is that the software on the phone is encoded, and decoded using the phones hardware. And as i dont have the specialist equipment to trace what happens to the software from when its in the flash to when its on the screen its kind of hard for me to do anything.

(BTW - That idea is (c) 2003 Dave :p)

DaveGSM82
06-02-2003, 08:12 PM
hi NDI, found a swapper yet? no? me neither.

Thanks for observing my local copyright laws :D

I just wish someone could figure out the encoding on the flash, if they could I'd write the bloody software myself and maybe then we'd have a REAL flash patcher, not just a "second IMEI" changer.

C'mon guys someone must have the expertees to start this thing rolling, as far as I see this is a simple problem with just one complication, the encryption. but every encryption can and will be broken, sooner or later (I'd rather it was sooner as I'd have a shed load os business) so pull your fingers out guys!!!

Dave.

NDI
06-02-2003, 08:26 PM
Dave,

Still havn't found a swapper :(
Do you think you'd be able to get your hands on a 8310 flash?
If you could then i think we could start decoding it. I have a load of people that i'm sure would love to have a look at the code, also i reckon anyone with an A* at maths could decode it (grins)...

Also, someone send me that imei changer as i want to decompile it, i reckon this would give us a head start at decoding the flash. I just hope the guy who wrote it isn;t reading this..

If he is, pm me, you me and dave could work together on it maybe?

Z0l
06-02-2003, 10:12 PM
@NDI
In the other IMEI changing topic, if you see the webpage, where are screenshots of the program, you can see, that it decodes the flash first, and encodes it afterwards. And the other thing: you can download a lot of dct3 and dct4 flash files from brad's site: brad.gsmunlock.sk
Start decrypting men! ;)

NDI
07-02-2003, 12:11 AM
nice one-

see if you can get me a copy of the progfram, or the source code

Damian
07-02-2003, 09:30 AM
YES!!! finally it looks like people who have knowledge in programming are gonna reverse engineer flashes just like the site says. TOGETHER we can break this one and then spread our love amongst the lesser people like myselves.


Damian


BTW - anyone who does it i will buy a pint (of milk!!!)

NDI
07-02-2003, 07:11 PM
Well, tbh if we do crack it we MUST make it free, not be a cheeky f*****rd and charge for it.

Damian
10-02-2003, 09:05 AM
well said that man (or woman)!!!

Damian

NDI
10-02-2003, 06:25 PM
Man ;)

UKSMS
10-02-2003, 10:17 PM
I think the easiest way is not to nick or buy nicked phones ;)

Massaf
11-02-2003, 01:29 PM
Hi

Try to change your 8310's emei with this program.
Please, tell me if it worked.

Good Luck

w0rf
11-02-2003, 02:46 PM
has anyone already an idea..what kind of encryption routine is used?

that doesn't give us the key though...and bruteforcing is gonna takes ages:(

Damian
11-02-2003, 03:16 PM
does anyone know if the v4 of eeprom tools works? cos it says in the readme that it should change IM*I but only if registered. Does anyone who has registered know if it does work on dct4??? let us know

Damian

meskalin
12-02-2003, 11:09 PM
This aint about 'Stolen Phones' ! This is about Resverse engineering, and free software ! as someone else sid, if we crack the DCT4 Encryption it should be - shared - ! NOT SOLD !

Should have 8310 to toy with soon, if anyone needs any help with anything particular and has some software they are trying on dct-4's then i'll do what i can to help.......
Sick and tired of reading, my xxxx Nokia is BLOCKED ! is there anything out there to repair IMEI for DCT4 ? ..................

What do people expect ? Its Tougher to crack this DCT4 baby !
The UK Police Comisioner in the UK said on the 31St of Jan this Year....( After RECORD numbers of mobile thefts on the UK streets ) that he is wanting to DishOut MAXiMuM Sentencing for mobile phone theft ! Some Guy.... who mugged some kid and punched him in the face for his phone in London ......Got 5 Years !

And the Head-Pig ( Police Commisioner ) Said " I Beg the mobile phone industry to at LEAST make phones where the 'chips' cannot be Changed !!!

SHIT !!! I dont want a phone where it's PERMANANTLY STUCK on 1 Network ! FUK ! That would be like....you gotta give your name to buy the phone....... you cannot changed the number/numbers ;) etc !!!!!! And then its all FuckeD !!!

MeSKaLiN

meskalin
12-02-2003, 11:14 PM
I got EEPROM Tools V4.0 here......and I 'think' Everything is working fine .................


Oh BTW ?

Does ANyone Have a 3315 FULL FLASH Backup ? UK Preferably ! or Europe !

;)

MeSKaLiN

NDI
12-02-2003, 11:14 PM
Yea.. but what happens to the people that get their phone stolen?

They get told to go and buy a new one. But they dont want to spend another 200 quid odd on a new phone, so they buy one from a guy at the pub. And whaddya know.. its dodgy.

Its a cach22 thing...

meskalin
12-02-2003, 11:19 PM
Still Laughing ....................... NDI, thats funny ! Its what happens all over I'm sure, and you'll know living here that LOTS of people gets their phones Stolen !!

:(

MeSKaLiN

THE FOX
13-02-2003, 04:45 AM
THAT EPROM TOOL NEEDS TO BE REGISTERED...
SO YOU HAVE TO PAY...:mad:

HAS ANY ONE CRACKED IT???

IF YOU HAVE PLEASE SEND IT TO ME..
OR POST IT ON THE FORUM...

Damian
13-02-2003, 09:23 AM
@meskalin

So it changes the imei? thats what i meant by 'worked properly' cos it says it should in the gumph that comes with it. And yeah it would be nice to see it cracked if it were possible but i dont think it is possible cos it uses a server to get the logs n stuff (so it says) but of course Bph&co wouldnt be happy...... just remeber this...

Damian

I'd like everything to be freeeeeeeee

JamieH
14-02-2003, 11:34 PM
According to b-phreeks in version 4 of eprom tools the imei changing function has been removed so it makes no difference whether or not the product is registered

THE FOX
15-02-2003, 04:40 AM
THERES A FEW OTHER POSTS, WITH PEOPLE SAYING IT DOESNT
CONNECT. OR IT DONT WORK...:mad:
SO IM NOT THE ONLY ONE HAVIN TROUBLE WITH IT...:confused:


ANY ONE HAD ANY LUCK????:eek:

NOT WITH THE IMEI FEATURE, JUST USIN THE TOOL???

PhreakTastic
15-02-2003, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by THE FOX
THERES A FEW OTHER POSTS, WITH PEOPLE SAYING IT DOESNT
CONNECT. OR IT DONT WORK...:mad:
SO IM NOT THE ONLY ONE HAVIN TROUBLE WITH IT...:confused:


ANY ONE HAD ANY LUCK????:eek:

NOT WITH THE IMEI FEATURE, JUST USIN THE TOOL???


Yeah same here m8, it just wont connect to my phone on any function, v3.1 is much better.

NDI
17-02-2003, 06:39 PM
Are you guys saying that you've found a tool to change DCT4 IMEI's?!?!

MicrostarGSM
17-02-2003, 06:48 PM
this eeprom tools from B-phreaks....
does this sw works with imei repair????

dydys_gsm
17-02-2003, 08:28 PM
ok users- there are two separate situation here:
1- if you change the uem or flash chip you need to write in flash(phoenix does) the imei stored in uem, so it will work get network bla bla bla
2: for the one who want to chage only so it is near imposible because the uem chip is termo sensible like t28 emitters

note: my conclusion is that:.....
make a service software able to write in flash the new imei(VSHGSM-sais he does it) and that is only thing posible for the moment

please note that is only my opinion and I'm not a software developper, I 'm a service tehnician

All the best for the one who will use my ideea:confused:

/I was refering to phoenix( somebody cracked it) tri spying and.............who knows

NDI
17-02-2003, 08:37 PM
M8, we allready know how to do it, my good friend Dave explained it.

Its just cracking the DCT4 encryrtion. Its allready happend, its just not open source yet

Open source software (OSS) is basicly free software which anyone is free to download, use and also edit. They are the allowed to re-distrobute it as their own, but they must state where they got the original code from.

THE FOX
17-02-2003, 09:34 PM
SO HAVE YOU SEEN IT DONE???
AN HOW LONG DO YOU EXPECT THE SOFTWARE IS GONA TAKE TO BE RELEASED...????:confused:

NDI
17-02-2003, 09:50 PM
we havn't done it yet

AND PLEASE TURN OFF THE CAPS :rolleyes:

Damian
03-03-2003, 03:42 PM
will someone please lock themselves in a room until they sort it out. Or failing that you could get some random autistic kid like in 'Mercury Rising' to look at it......you never know....


I'm going mental here. somebody somewhere (especially those who work for nokia) must know something. It's a conspiricy i tell ya!!!

Damian

Makaveli789
03-03-2003, 04:35 PM
i agree with you bud :D
unfortunately theres no telling when this baby will fall through, might be just better off swapping the phone with someone international

NDI
04-03-2003, 07:56 PM
Bah, i changed the leds in mine today :)

My phone works.. But sometimes (only sometimes) i get 3 beeps. And sometimes, people who are trying to call me get the message " we are currently not connecting calls to this number". Txts are the same :(

Just wanna change the IMEI! What'd be good, is if it only changed the IMEI in the uem. Not the sw, cuz if you get stopped by the cops, the first thing they do is ask to see your phone. they then take out the battery, and note down the IMEI. then they turn it on, do *#06* and make sure theyre the same. So it'd be better if it only changed the one on the UEM (well, replaced it)

THE FOX
04-03-2003, 09:30 PM
just remove the sticker with the imei from the back of your fone,
an if the police stop you tell them it was your kid brother or you've got a new housing for your fone as the other one broke???

nokiahell
29-05-2003, 08:02 PM
you mite laugh at what im gonna say but why cant we install a dct3 uem chip in the phone then write the chip as many times as we like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

djroj2001
29-05-2003, 08:16 PM
nokiahell....... oh dear.

nokiahell
29-05-2003, 08:18 PM
thought that would do the trick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damian
30-05-2003, 10:02 AM
$£%$%&%^$%^$%^$%^$%^$%^!!!!!!!


thats how i feel about this.....sorry i just had to let that one out....

nokiahell
30-05-2003, 05:53 PM
with this post becoming a bit boring i thought i would chuck a spanner in the works!!!!!!!!!!! i wonder when it will get sorted because i also got a 8310 just sitting here with no network and i really dont wanna be changing uem chips looks quite difficult to do and wouldnt know what software to use to write a new one anyway

haha298
31-05-2003, 10:31 AM
After searching solution to fix my 8310 with IMEI ???????? for more than 6 months, I finally have my phone fixed in China for only HK$150 (US$20)!

They changed the damaged chips and also run a software called IMEI-Rebuilder to create a new IMEI for my phone.

Now the IMEI showing on the sticker and my phone (*#06#) is not match, but who cares, as long as my phone is working again!

nokiahell
31-05-2003, 10:38 AM
respect to you for getting it sorted i know someone who would do it for but i wanna do it for myself considering you can get the chips for £3 and i dont like getting beaten when i aint done anything wrong and like you say who cares about silly sticker in the back anyway you can buy a new rear chassis if it came to that

haha298
31-05-2003, 10:55 AM
Yes, I know you want to do it for yourself, and I also know that the chips is even cheaper in China (US$0.1 only) !

But the software called "IMEI Rebuilder" is very expensive! 3 months ago, the price was something like US$20,000 !

Now, the price dropped and still talking about US$5,000!

I don't think there is any chance that the price will drop to something lower than US$20, so I finally gave up and send it to the repair shop in China!

nokiahell
31-05-2003, 11:07 AM
any chance you could pm the website or address to me just in case i give in
thanks matey

haha298
31-05-2003, 02:53 PM
The shop which fixed my phone does not have a website, but you can try this one:

http://www.lante168.com/pro_en/software/nk_a8/index.htm

http://www.lante168.com/pro_en/software/nk_dct4_5/index.htm

nokiahell
31-05-2003, 03:01 PM
cheers matey thanks for that

keyzer
03-06-2003, 11:54 AM
i have a contact who is changing imei's on dct4 mobiles, he is charging minimum £50. i am based in uk so if you want to get in touch email me for more details.

[email protected]

burgemaster
15-06-2003, 12:27 AM
Earlier this year we were told that a solution to changing the IMEI was "just aroud the corner" ?? (jan 2003)

Has there been any progress since? half a year ?

Or have we all come to the solution that the ONLY way to change the IMEI and get rid of network blocking is to have the UEM chip changed????

I find it hard to believe that Nokia has beaten everyone and no solution made available as so many people are after this solution?

Fair play to Nokia on this one!!!

Any news or updates PLS reply as my blocked 8310 has been sitting on the shelf for 7 months now !!!!!

nokiahell
15-06-2003, 09:26 AM
burgemaster
i know the feeling i also have a 8310 sitting here collecting dust and the dust is getting thicker and thicker fair play to nokia but the people that have purchased in good faith that are now stuck with blocked phones its annoying. if only a forum like this could cut a deal with the networks(within the uk) and anyone with a blocked phone that could prove that they purchased it legally,even if secondhand and was willing to pay the networks a unblocking fee, because lets be honest most of these phones are contract scams and anyway people would have to pay to have uem chip changed so i know what would be easier pay the networks a one off fee, all the networks want is to recover some monies from the contract scammers, so could it be achieved.

Makaveli789
16-06-2003, 02:03 PM
i agree with you mate. :)

Also, i seem to remember someone saying wait till july for a solution, i think it was junaid.:grin:

Blackneck6666
18-06-2003, 04:28 PM
I think ur phone don't need collecting dust if u can sell it
In my country this kind of system don't apply by the operator because i sell many of kind phone from europe with orange, vodafone, sun, smart. if you or your partner want to sell to me your phone are wellcome. I'm just a businessman.

I think what we have to do to change the imei
1. We must know how production process
- i have my experience in production
all the chip can be reprogram, but why dct 4 cannot
reprogram
the imei, not they are not, just because the binary language
is custom made. why? because the operator support them to
do this. the operator want to earn money. (Oh money again)
2. The codes you can know from a production manual (in sony we
call OS Operation Standart))
3. Maybe in here some operator/technician production can give us
some clue. why china can do the imei changing maybe because
some of reason above. i don't know how did they do it, i wish
to know too

Damian
18-06-2003, 05:02 PM
the problem we have is that most of the people who know how to do this work for nokia, but also the people who work for nokia who frequent this forum (which i am certain there are) either dont know how to do it (if they dont deal with that side of things) or dont want to tell us (which i hope isnt the case)....anyway this goes out to all nokia staff.....

PLEASE TELL US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alinus
18-06-2003, 06:16 PM
@ damian&others

sollution for changing imei was posted 100 times on this forum...

read old posts and u will learn it.

and if u are looking for easy sollutions...maybe u need to sell your phone or get out of this buissnes.

Damian
19-06-2003, 01:14 PM
@alinus

I know about the UEM changing solution and it seems like a bit of a pain in the proverbial, just to change the IMEI. As for me getting out of the business, i think that comment was out of order.

This forum is for 'Flash reverse engineering' not 'changing hardware' hence its name. I'm not interested in changing chips inside the phones i am interested in learning about the software contained on the phones. OK so im not the best at decryption of software otherwise i would have had ago but i am interested in learning which is what this forum is all about.......tell me if i'm wrong but i feel your comments were almost like those of someone who wasnt interested in helping others.....i leave this thought with you


Damian:mad:

nokiahell
19-06-2003, 06:10 PM
damian try not to take it to heart but i do know what you mean when you reply with a post and you get the old cold shoulder approach, you think why bother replying, my policy is i dont take s**t off anyone because i do believe that people are to quick to stick there nose in and RESPECT stands for nothing nowadays but i will help anybody out but if they cant be bothered to talk to me properly then dont reply, most of these people wouldnt say it to your face but are big old toughies behind the keyboard, my advise to you is KEEP SMILING

Alinus
19-06-2003, 06:33 PM
U must understand ONE thing:

Imei changing in dct 4 phones implies Chaning UEM. Only after this software sollution is involved.

It was stated clearly several times on this forum.

If u will keep chasing dead horses someday u will became one.

nokiahell
19-06-2003, 06:41 PM
yeah i understand that, but we know that its the only solution, only at the moment and i also sympathise with you as a moderator because it must get frustrating reading the same old questions but hey thats what being a moderator is about helping and advising people NOT being rude unless someone is rude to yourself
this is not a personal attack on yourself but just my opinion on this expanding topic

Damian
20-06-2003, 12:00 PM
ok alinus(or anyone)....

I need to know a few things if i am going to do this.

1) what soldering equipment do i need (cheapest option)

2) who in the uk supplies chips or do they have a code number (like MAX232) and how much

3) where do i get the software


and PLEASE dont just say read the posts.....


Love and kisses

Damian:D:D:D:D
(finally giving up....)

Alinus
20-06-2003, 12:06 PM
u need hot air station....and software is about 700-800$.
i do not know who supplyes UEM's in UK...here in romania we do not have the Barrd phones problem.


@nokiahell
i do not always post as a moderator...i am also a member of this forum

Damian
20-06-2003, 03:01 PM
$800 ????????????????


Foook Dat!

the phone isnt worth it.....

Back to collecting dust my little friend...

Blackneck6666
21-06-2003, 09:14 AM
Damian don't just give up like that, when i'm feeling like u i still
remember the sony concept

1. Nothing is Impossible 1. Nothing is impossible

and

anyting possible from Hawlet packartanything possible from hawlet packart

i'm willing to help u and it help myself too (for commercial use):D

nahid
21-06-2003, 11:13 AM
i find mostly the people stayin in the uk are affected when they see this word dct4 imei changer they are like bees sooner or later there should be a easier solution to this

Damian
21-06-2003, 11:22 AM
i certainly hope so nahid,

I know one day there will be software only solution.....

or at least an affordable solution...

Alinus
21-06-2003, 03:29 PM
yes, one day will be more affordable sollution.

Drug_Store
22-06-2003, 03:08 AM
I guess solution is always to replace UEM, since that UEM chip on DCT4 phones are OTP (One Time Programmable), so no second writting on it...

So even in the future solution will be to replace the chip or replace IMEI somewhere else and redirect the checking UEM commands to that place...

Anyway, you only can expect to get the sw to write IMEI on new chip, cheaper or even more in the future, free... But would be very hard to skip the UEM chip replacement...

That´s just my opinion, don´t mean to attack anyone...
Even more, because here in Portugal we also don´t have that problem of "Blacklisted" phones.

But IMEI ??????????????? concerns everyone, and affect every country...;)

Blackneck6666
22-06-2003, 09:56 AM
hELLO PALS

I just found a site they sell dct4 imei rebuilder
with this price
USD$1300

dct 4. com (http://www.dct4.com/default.asp)

but don know is it real or cheating money

markchee
05-07-2003, 06:41 PM
Latest price for imei rebuilder US$380/ & UEM ic US$6/ excluding shipment.For UEM pricing up & down,due to limited stock.

mark

stroem
06-08-2003, 03:57 PM
haha298 how did you contact the chinese people that fixed your phone? and how did you pay the etc, reply with a PM preferably

Malacca Mobile
06-08-2003, 04:51 PM
For dct4 imei changer please contact me at [email protected] or go to my website!

Price 240usd!

asoganm
06-08-2003, 07:25 PM
I bought an IMEI Rebuilder from [email protected], it works 1000000% and he is very reliable!!!!

stroem
06-08-2003, 11:18 PM
hmm... something makes me suspect that users malacca mobile and asoganm are the same person... what can it be...

PhreakTastic
07-08-2003, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by stroem
hmm... something makes me suspect that users malacca mobile and asoganm are the same person... what can it be...

:wink:

stroem
07-08-2003, 01:14 PM
so, it's impossible to write to the uem chip, so? is it really that hard to change the chip? (a guide is wanted from someone who has done it)

all we need now is the software to write to the new chip, am i right?

Damian
08-08-2003, 10:11 AM
how can a chip be one time programmable? if you can write to it once, why not twice?

asoganm
08-08-2003, 03:23 PM
I am from South Africa(Durban). The chip does not come programmed, you program the chip for the first time, I seriously bought chips and a rebuilder from [email protected], and used a magnum hotair station to remove and install the new chips, thereafter used the rebuilder to program the chip from ??????????? to IMEI!!!!

Vyrus Débar
10-08-2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Damian
how can a chip be one time programmable? if you can write to it once, why not twice?

it works in the same way as write protected / write once cd's...

the memory can only be modified once...

stroem
12-08-2003, 07:37 PM
well hey! got damn! just out with the software to write to a new chip!! then we can change chips and change imei!! got damn dont let this thread die!

nsr
14-08-2003, 11:32 AM
I am new to this site but I have noticed a lot of discussion on changing imei. Any way, I don't know if you guys know this allready but I came accross this web site that sells imei changer for only $250. The thing is you still have to replace the uem chip which is not really hard nor expensive! Try looking it up at http://www.gsmdevice.com/products/d4imeibox.htm.
Hope this hellps

Whiterat
01-05-2004, 07:47 PM
i swear, what has happened to all the great orignal software in the world :sad:
I used to flash stuff with the Rollis Flasher Use eeprom tools to 'repair imei' (cough) and that all worked fine on dct3, has anyone actually tried these methods out on a dct4 phone?

sergo_zmeia
03-05-2004, 01:11 AM
Here is the answer U all dig for..
http://nokiafree.org/forums/showthread.php?p=301772#post301772
Regards!
Sergo_Zmeia

nokiahell
03-05-2004, 01:15 AM
:lol:same old answer :)

dakusingh
04-05-2004, 01:37 PM
hey, i would love to your all ur barred phones, i am also from the UK

i love barred phones, i will buy... please email me on

ps. if u havnt guessed, there are ways to unbarr uk barred phones :D :-P :) :rolleyes: 8-)
No mail me here please...