Wintesla and FLS-2D problems

[grumpy872]

Hello to everyone,

just happened to stumble across this site and hope to find a home here. I'm an ex-Cingular Level 3 repair tech and had a question about hardware and since I'm no longer supported through Nokia, I thought I'd ask you guys.

I have a FLS-2D dongle running with Wintesla. Recently I did a clean install to XP and downloaded all the updated Wintesla files, dongle and DESkey drivers, and nscw.exe file. FOr some reason I'm throwing up DLL errors after plugging IRDBs, some of the characters are nummbers are completely foreign, and when i close Wintesla, I get hangups. I am now starting over fresh with a dumped hard drive with 98SE again where I didnt have problems. Just wondered if anyone had the same problems and Id appreciate any advice on how to resolve this.
THanks

[Nokiarepairman]

hi mate i am also a level 3 repair engineer if you are interested I can copy you a CD with wintesla, all dll`s and latest flash fils the new fls1 support files and deskey drivers and fls4 drivers. phoenix all the latest software packages.

e-mail me at [email protected] cd is £10 to all people who want one..

I have a PKD-1 If anyone wants to bid aswell.

[grumpy872]

Nokiarepairman,

Thanks for getting back to me. I already have Wintesla, updates, and FLS-X license utilities. It's the license request files I need. If you're familiar with the utilities and the FLS-2D dongle, you have to use the program to request flash license updates which are emailed to Nokia in an encrypted .req file. When they receive the file with the matching email address it was assigned to, then they send back an .iss file that you load back into the utilities. Then it allows you to update the number of allowances the dongle can flash, in this case 966 (I have 34 flash counts left)

If you or anyone can help please let me know.

Thanks

[phonedudes]

@grumpy872

You said you
downloaded all the updated Wintesla files, dongle and DESkey drivers, and nscw.exe file

So then you stlil have access to the APWS, correct?

PHONEDUDES :) :grin: :)

[grumpy872]

Yes, but I purchased this dongle through a private liquidation from one of Cingular's previous agencies.

[lonegunman]

http://www.cellularrepairs.co.uk go to this site and check out the e-mails on the bottom, for these guys claim to beable to do what you need doing to your fls-2d and can make it unlimited and add bits to it (not sure what that means), if you have no luck or there are of no use to you I have a few more people I could try and see what there say.:)

[phonedudes]

Well if the Dongle is NOT DE-Activated ,run the FLS-X software and then send the license request file through APWS and have them email it back..

I believe its done by an AUTO-BOT now...from what it appears..

Did you get any of the old MOTO dongles as well??

PHONEDUDES :) :grin: :)

[lonegunman]

Did you get any of the old MOTO dongles as well??

Sorry m8 who you asking? If it's me then not to sure what you are on about.:confused:

[grumpy872]

Phonedudes,
The only thing is that once the FLS-X utilites creates and sends the .req file to the APWS via my email address, the dongle's serial number, which I'm assuming is embedded in the file, has to match a registered email address (which Nokia has) that the req file is coming from. I don know what email address was originally registered with Nokia with this dongle.

Nokia's database recognizes that my email address doesnt match the dongle serial numbers, so it doesn't send me back the .iss file that i need to update the dongle.

[lonegunman]

Follow up to what I said, yes I can get them done, PM me and I will give details.:D not sure on cost as I don't do them.

[gogooo]

Originally posted by Nokiarepairman
hi mate i am also a level 3 repair engineer if you are interested I can copy you a CD with wintesla, all dll`s and latest flash fils the new fls1 support files and deskey drivers and fls4 drivers. phoenix all the latest software packages.

e-mail me at [email protected] cd is £10 to all people who want one..

I have a PKD-1 If anyone wants to bid aswell.

can you sell a PKD-1,how much is it ???

[phonedudes]

@grumpy872


Ah...Thought you were the originally registered email for that...

For shits and giggles do you try (re)registering that FLS to your (A) email address?

By the way you dont happen to have any req/iss files you used before, do you?

And then Old Moto Dongles was a question for you as well.. What other things did you purchase from the auction?

PHONEDUDES :) :grin: :)

[grumpy872]

Phonedudes,
I lost on the bid for the Motorola equipment - damn auctioneers didn't see me jump in the air waving my numbers creaming like a woman!

I was afraid to send in the .req file with my email address. I didn't want them to send an .iss file that would disable the dongle if they knew it wasn't registered to me.

I did get my hands on an old Curtis 32X8 Nam programmer and 92 NAM chips for them. Model PR 5200B.

I don't have any original .req files but I can get some archived ones from a buddy. Why? Are you holding out on me? Cause I'm willing to trade info for info :D

[phonedudes]

Darn.... Would have been nice to know someone else with some MOTO stuff that didnt rob the bank to get it.

I doubt they would send a disable file...The only thing that does that for sure is WINLOCK, if you screw with it.
However, I guess 34 (or so) flashes from now I would try... Since the FLS-2 as just a DONGLE is really worthless...
It doesnt work with Phoenix and the cracked version of Wintesla allows you to do more than the FLS does with a 0 flash count.

Thats funny :D a Curtis...... Not many people now what those are... We have one of those 2.... Those things were like $1995 or something way back when... Good thing we purchased ours at a deal for something like $500!

If it will make you really curious we will tell ya we're holding out...

Seriously... No secrets... It might be a waste of time but wanted to look into possibly reversing the .req / .iss packets.. Not that its really worth it...for us... or really anyone anymore..

So did you work for Cingular or someplace like Palco??

Phonedudes :) :grin: :)

[grumpy872]

I used to be a repair tech for 34 of Cingular's agents in Chicagoland. Got tires of getting passed up on the corporate ladder to brown-nosing dumbasses. Now I run a repair, refurbishing, and wholesale company right from home. I buy all the used, liquid damaged, and BER (Beyond Economic Repair) phones and repair or salvage them.

That Wintesla cracked version - I DLed it and installed it - does that work with an NK-567 and NKI 8260 from Ucables? I didnt get it to work. And is it ok to run with XP? because the full version off the APWS gaveme problems, XP kept disabling the DESkey drivers.

and will all the dll files from the site work with the cracked version?

[phonedudes]

Working in the corporate world is a whole other ball game... Sounds like your new position might be more rewarding both $$ wise and sense of accomplishment anyway.

When you ask if cracked version of Wintesla works not sure what your asking... We have a PKD running on one Svc Computer and the Cracked version w/Fls running on another.. Basically both have identical capabilities...in regards to Wintesla.

As far as running in the XP realm...I guess it depends who you ask..If you only have 1 pc build another...Run Win98se and call it a day.
EVERY phone program will run and theres no problems.

PHONEDUDES :) :grin: :)

P.S. So does your buddy with the archive iss/req files still work as a tech?

[lonegunman]

@grumpy872

Right my number 1 guy is back so have asked about the update for you, yes he can do it but he need it's here in the UK so you are going to be with out it for a week or so. Still not been giving a price as of yet as I'm not sure if you want to send it off so that's about it.

Have you had a reply from JIC yet? As I'm still waiting for one myself, so much for being the best:mad:

[grumpy872]

It will be difficult for me to send out the dongle considering I use it 6-7 hours a day for my phone orders - not really for flashing right now but for changing the IRDBs. Without the dongle would be put on hold for a week and that would make me nervous - i have alot of orders to fill.

As for my confusing questions about Wintesla, I wanted to know if there was a cracked version of Wintesla that would allow me to use cables other than the Nokia dongles. Maybe I am confused about what "cracked" means. I refer to cracked as a version that will allow me to use universal serial cables to program the phones without a limited flash count and without a dongle. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

My other question was to find out if there is an application just as reliable as WIntesla to flash and reprogram Nokias which I wouldnt require any type of dongle. If not, is there a dongle that I could purchase that would work with Wintesla that wouldnt have a flash limit?

Maybe I should let you know now that all I deal with are TDMA phones. I have confused others thinking I work with CDMA or GSM.
Thanks

[lonegunman]

That I understand out sending it over as you don't know me or the guy I deal with, but he is the number 1 guy for all the nokia needs also works close with B-Phreaks and a few others.

Any way back to flashing and stuff, if you just use the fls-2d for flashing new software to the phone (which if I'm right that is all it does) then may I point out the JIC Neelix 1 box (form the link I gave) and buy one of them much cheaper and no need for up dates for flashing (I have one and can say it is class) and it supports all TDMA phones if I'm right and it uses the wintesla style Flash files as well so no need to convert them but uses it own software not wintesla software, As for cracked wintelsa I found it only good for finding out why the phone is in C/S, unless you have all the rest of the gear to do testing with it.

[grumpy872]

Well actually
I use the dongle to change IRDB settings, along with flashing the software, setting defaults, and changing logos with Wintesla. Is there anyway your friend can get me an update if I send the .req file to you?

However, maybe you know, because Nokia institute in Melbourne, FLA wouldn't show us. Can I unlock SP on Wintesla? I have about 100 AT&T 5165s I have collecting dust because I can't change the SOCs or IRDB settings.

I looked at those boxes on JIC, but it didnt say anything about IRDB editing abilities or changinglogos, and master resets. That is my main concern also.

[lonegunman]

Not sure what he has to do, (can't say anymore as I might drop some one in the crap here if I say to much but I will ask for you). Right now what is IRDB? sorry but don't know anything about the phones you have over there as I don't work with them, as for the JIC Neelix box you can do factory reset and upgrade downgrade and unlock.

As for sp unlock with wintesla yes you can (for GSM phones) but it has to be in a log form from someone with the nokia gear to make them, again due to the fact I know nothing about TDMA phones not sure if he can do or get them done.

Not much help I know but not having a TDMA phone to try bit's on I can't tell you.

So if you can give me some help or a site to read about TDMA I can help a bit more, now if it was a GSM problem then no problem I can help you out.

[lonegunman]

I need the dongle number and the .reg file as well as I have someone else who will try as my number 1 guy needs the fls here.

[thiana]

please, where´s the link to JIC neelix?:confused:

[grumpy872]

http://www.cellularrepairs.co.uk/

[thiana]

Thanks grumpy, i just contact those guys on jic. Waiting for reply. Do u have any experience on flash nokia 3360, or unlocking? Maybe you have an flashing box to them, just forgotten on a corner, that you don´t use anymore, very, very cheap..... :D

[grumpy872]

Im look ing for equipment for 3360s - I have 200 3360s sitting here waiting to be flashed and unlocked.

[phonedudes]

@grumpy872

Hey...been busy at COMDEX but we can take care of both your 5165's and 3360's so let us know if we can help you out since your FLS-2 will only allow you to take care of your DCT-3 phones.

PHONEDUDES :) :grin: :)

[grumpy872]

phonedudes,

I just got my hands on a PKD-1 adaptor, but don't know what else I need for programming. I went over the service manuals at APWS but I cant find the older equipment lists. Does this dongle use a direct parallel to phone cable? If so where can I get it? Or does it use a serial also like the FLS-2D? lonegunman told me I cant use this dongle for flashing, so I guess my next question is do you know anyone else who can crack FLS-2Ds?

[lonegunman]

As I said a few post back send me the .rpl file and the dongle number I have some else to try, he has spoke to the guys in the service center he use's (he can book out the center for a few hours and use all the gear they have to do the work he can't do) and see what the guys in there say it will cost you (not sure on price) but with out the .rpl file or the dongle number there is nothing he or the service center can do, the quicker you can that lot to me the quicker I can see if it can be done and at what price. :)

This way round you don't have to send the dongle to any one.:D

[grumpy872]

lonegunman,

you may want to ask your buddy if it will help to get him 2 .req files. I used the Fls-x utilities to give me another .req file and noticed it is different than the one I printed a couple posts back. So I will send you two.

PM me with your email address.

Would you know a roundabout figure as far as price?

[phonedudes]

@grumpy872

Where did you get your PKD-1?? What were asking is basically if from wherever you obtained it, if thats all that was there or you can get the rest.. Because thats what you need is the rest of the stuff.

Meaning the 3 box setup and cables... otherwise what you have is basically another DONGLE...However the PKD-1 gets you access to using Phoenix although you still cant flash w/o the rest of the gear.

And yes everytime you create a .req file it will differ...Thats why we wanted complete sets to analyze.If you created 3 in a row with the same dongle all the .req will differ but curious to see what differs in the .iss files.

NO YOU CANNOT USE A PARALLEL TO PHONE CABLE...

THE PKD is NOT a FLASHER or INTERFACE it is JUST A DONGLE so by itself NO you cannot flash with it.. However that with the rest of the 3box setup is what is used TO FLASH..

Your FLS-2 will ONLY allow you to flash DCT-3 phones NOT 3320,3360,3361,1260 etc... Newer TDMA phones.. So cracking or re-up'ing the flash counter will only benefit you on the older 512x,516x,8260 etc..etc..

Do you know if your PKD-1 is active and working??

PHONEDUDES :) :grin: :)

[grumpy872]

yes, the PKD-1 is active. It was given to me but everything else he didn't have. He did give me a couple of older flash cradles - 1 FPS-5, 2 SCS-1s, a JBS-7, and the label is missing on this last piece, but it's for flashing 232s.

What does the 3-box setup run and is it worth my time?

I primarily deal with 5100s, 6100s, 8200s, and 7100s, which my FLS-2D does everything I need. The only thing I would need right now is unlocking SW since Wintesla won't allow me to do - I am waiting for another NK567 from ucables.

Other than that 3360s are a waste of my time - I think they were a waste of Nokias time and money - just badly designed and very unforgiving phones.

As for the .req files, I just got another FLS-2D (No, I can't sell it- it's borrowed, if anyone's thinking) with 1000 updated to it that I will be using in the meantime. I don't have any .iss files otherwise I think it could have been cracked much easier.

[phonedudes]

Like you said that must be some old stuff because none of those part numbers are ringing a bell.
What handset is the FPS-5 for? Assume the SCS's must be cables..

The 3box setup has its purpose but its bulky (hence 3boxes) and its only MAJOR advantage is UNLIMITED flash licenses but with a 1000 flash count ... I wouldnt think youll be running out any time soon.
Is it just a standard PKD-1? We need another DONGLE we can experiment with maybe we can figure out a trade of some sort, benificial to us both.. Well mainly you .... since I think last we checked they are only about $68. How bout a 3360 phone for it :):)

Have to agree with you on the Nokia's second TDMA mistake the 33xx series.. 8860 being the first.

So those (3360's) not being of concern to you it sounds like you have everything you need.

PHONEDUDES

[grumpy872]

phonedudes,

I am more than willing to trade a shitload of phones to anyone who canhelp me out with Wintesla equipment or even a guaranteed .iss file. 5120s, 5160s, 5165s, 6120s, 6160s, 6160s, 7160s, 8260s, 3360s, Moto ST7790s, 7797s, 7897s, Ericsson T18s, KF788s, R278s, 1228s, I have all of them.

The FPS-5 is LAbeled "FLash Programming Adapter" It's actually a NOkia Modified CarK-11 or 91 main module box, with a serial port and power supply input, output for a DAU-2, PHONE A, and PHONE B using RG59 plugs. Then there is a small blue STNO button that's labeled Min.mode, and two LEDS, one for power, and one for programming.
I don't think it goes to any particular handset. I have a feeling this is one of Nokia's prommer boxes, however I don't remember going over this unit at Nokia Institute.