My Nokia 8910i with ultra bright blue led 160 mcd brightness took me almost an hour to insert/solder these in to my keyboard pcb about 10 smd blue leds. Cost of 10 leds was £2.00 delivered.

click on the link to see my modded nokia 8910i

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