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rolls
12-02-2003, 09:10 AM
Hi,
Last month I bought a 2nd hands 6210. I didn't know it was upgraded to 6250. Because of problems with charging in the carkit and some other minor problems, I decided to downgrade it back to 6210. I made flashcable, and downloaded 6210v556E_200000.fls . With Knok (Engbld22/Febld18 ) I wrote the flash.
After powering it on I entered my pin. For every push on the keyboard the phone gave a strange noise (a sis). Everything worked except the network : no signal was detected. What did I wrong (or forgot) ???
Tnx for suggestions.
WildSwan
13-02-2003, 01:49 AM
Did you also replaced the EEPROM from 6250 to 6210?
Here's my procedure. Check if yuou missed something.
1. Select a MCU+PPM flash file.
2. Flash the selected flash file into the phone.
3. Flash a virgin EEPROM of 6210 into the phone.
4. Calculate FAID.
5. Change the IMEI to your own.
6. Reset to factory settings default.
That's it. Needless to say, you must flash at the appropriate addresses.
It may also help to erase the whole flash using kNok before flashing. It's like reformatting.
rolls
13-02-2003, 08:58 AM
Tnx,
I used a fls file (3801088 bytes) and used the write FLS flash file to phone button (Is that what you meant with MCU+PPM ???). Afterwards I used the quick faid. I didn't changed the IMEI.
After quick faiding again it founds the network, but the sissing knobs on the keyboard are still there even if I change the keyboard volume. Any suggestion ???
As said WildSwan flash your upgraded 6250 with EEPROM from 6210, change IMEI to original one, remove SP locks, reset all phone settings and update FAID and your problem will be solved ;)
WildSwan
13-02-2003, 12:04 PM
Al and I is telling you... Flash you phone with an EEPROM from a 6210.
Until you do this, don't ask anymore question regarding this matter. :)
Originally posted by rolls
Tnx,
I used a fls file (3801088 bytes) and used the write FLS flash file to phone button (Is that what you meant with MCU+PPM ???). Afterwards I used the quick faid. I didn't changed the IMEI.
After quick faiding again it founds the network, but the sissing knobs on the keyboard are still there even if I change the keyboard volume. Any suggestion ???
rolls
13-02-2003, 10:50 PM
Hi Guys,
I can't write the eeprom.
I downloaded a eeprom for 6210 (24576 bytes) and tried to write it with Knok (startadress 5A0000) . It blocks after 002867F8 ...
here the knok output:
FLS1_ConfigurateBootstrapDCT3 : checksum is 4E8B
FLE5_DirectInitialiseBootstrapDCT3 : Press power on (if needed)
FLS1_GeneralSendBootstrapDCT3 : bootstrap seems to be running
FLS1_PreparePhone : detected NMP is NPE-3
FLS1_GeneralSendAlgoCodeDCT3 : checksum is 5DD7
FLS1_GeneralSendAlgoCodeDCT3 : algo code seems to be running
FLS1_Write : written block (4 bytes) starting from 00200034
FLS1_Read : read block (256 bytes) starting from 00200000
FLS1_Write : written block (4 bytes) starting from 00200034
FLS1_Read : read block (256 bytes) starting from 00286818
FLS1_Write : written block (4 bytes) starting from 00200034
FLS1_Read : read block (256 bytes) starting from 002867F8
As ultimate attempt I concatenated 6210v556E_200000.fls and the 6210eeprom.fls, so that I have a big fls (3825664 bytes) and tried to write it at once ... same result : blocking at 002867F8
any suggestions ??
you can write to phone only x*64kB blocks (where x=1,2,3...)
rolls
13-02-2003, 10:55 PM
Is it normal that I have to try a lot of times to start writing a fls with Knok (more than 10 tries (power on)) is common ! Or ... is somthing wrong with the circuit (74HC14).
Even Rolis(514) won't start.
rolls
13-02-2003, 10:59 PM
64kB blocks ? Euh where can I set this param ??? Sorry (for the -maybe- silly question) but it's the first time I flash one ...
Try to use Rolis 4.78b6 (5.14 - buggy version), download PPM+EEPROM from your phone, insert new EEPROM in downloaded file with HEX editor, than upload it to phone.
rolls
13-02-2003, 11:07 PM
Any link to find the rolis ?
What about Knok, is that usable ???
I hope the fls files I have are OK.
Here
http://www.uniquephones.com/nf/
at the page bottom
rolls
15-02-2003, 08:11 AM
Tnx for the link, but I can't write the eeprom.
Can you tell me the PROCEDURE to do it ?
Rollis 4.78b says the eeprom file (24576 bytes) isn't x*64 Kb ; Do I have to do something extra with the eepromfile before I can write it with Rollis ? I suppose the 6210v556E_200000.fls file (3801088 bytes) is the MCU+PPM file ?
What goes wrong or do I have to change something ?
liteFun
15-02-2003, 10:08 AM
i'm sure original is x*64kB..
but try to open it in hex editor and fill with FF until it reaches x*64kB.
(here you need math.. that's why they teach math in school) :D
Mr rolls
Please try to flash this EEPROM with Rollis 4.78b...
I think you will solve your problem... :D
rolls
15-02-2003, 04:13 PM
I've tried twice with the 6210 eeprom+pmm 005A0000.fls(6210_ee$2bpmm.zip) and afterwards it says CONTACT SERVICE ...
What now ???
Mr rolls
You have to do the following steps
1)Use EEPROM tools v3.1 by B-phreaks
2)Push the button with the lens (Update authority ID)
3)Check the box Manual
4)Put your IMEI
5)Push the green button with the IC (repair IMEI)
6)Push the button with lock (Set Default SP locks)
Follow all the steps from the start again (many times) until to fix your phone...
rolls
15-02-2003, 07:52 PM
Update authority ID(eeprom tools) says CAN'T READ PPM
rolls
15-02-2003, 08:09 PM
Powering on with SIMcard on board says now SIMCARD NOT ACCEPTED.
Hasn't anyone a full backup of 6210 ???
full backup for 6210 v5.56
http://www.uniquephones.com/nf/temp/Full6210.rar
don't forget to change IMEI!
rolls
16-02-2003, 11:37 AM
Sorry Al; still problems :
I wrote the full6210fls ; changed IMEI
After powering on it says SIMCARD not accepted (SIM He xxNHRT in Russian). I don't know why.
I bought the phone on a fair, afterwards I saw it was upgraded into 6250, and it didn't wear the original IMEI (something like 656565...) Could that be a reason ???
rolls
16-02-2003, 10:00 PM
Tnx to Al and others who helped me to solve my problem !
After clearing the SP locks the mobile started - at last !
The only dificulty was the language (finding the way in Russian menus isn't easy at all). Just an other flash with the Dutch menus and all OK.
Tnx for your pussycat Al ;); it helped me a lot !
Rollis 478B works great, but it blocks frequently in WIN98 (not in safe mode). Which flashutilities work with win2K ?
For NT systems (like WinNT, Win2k, WinXP) just install UserPort (http://www.uniquephones.com/nf/files/UserPort.zip)
rolls
16-02-2003, 10:33 PM
That's what I needed ; Tnx again Al.
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