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|ReZ75|
28-02-2003, 09:05 AM
Hi atzplzw...

You were one of my favourite posters here on this Forum but I don't like how your acting lately, it looks like you became a vicious superstar like many others... I remember the old days when you were just trying to crack these programs to learn things and everytime you made any progress you were here in the Forum to share your experience and your discoveries.

This is a community and if someone does something he should share with others. It's pretty lame by you to say "I cracked all this stuff (insert your list)" or "I cracked Hantro 3.3 even with a english translation better then the one around" and then at the end say "I almost forgot: I will not send it to anyone!!! These cracks will reach the public when the time has come!!".

What the hell does mean "will reach the public when the time has come" ? Maybe that there's some "elite people" who can get this stuff before anyone else and then once these programs will be old enough in a few weeks (PhotoSMS for example already got a new version 1.331 so your crack is already old before being released) everyone could get their hands on them?

Don't get me wrong atzplzw, I appreciate A LOT what you did in the past and do for the community (like I appreciate what Phantasm and others did) but your way to act is becoming really lame lately, like if you feel a superstar and that people has to beg you and wait for your releases. I appreciate much more a person who say "Hi, I was able to crack this in my spare time, enjoy!" then people like you who say "I cracked all these programs but I won't send them before a certain amount of time".

If you decide to crack programs and keep them for yourself that's fine just don't come here in the Forums saying "I made a lot of cracks but I won't send them". This is what I can't accept, you just raise expectations with your lame way to act. Bye


P.S. I'm not a newbie, this is not my real nick. I changed nick cause I got banned in the past from this Forum because I released some cracks by myself. I also cracked a game that everyone of you probably is still using, but I won't say now cause I don't want to get flamed.

mrcommodore64
28-02-2003, 09:27 AM
:D

*elite people*

:D

atzplzw
28-02-2003, 01:06 PM
Hi!

First of all I have to say that I don't wanna end up in another fight here so anyone choose your word wisely!




You were one of my favourite posters here on this Forum but I don't like how your acting lately, it looks like you became a vicious superstar like many others... I remember the old days when you were just trying to crack these programs to learn things and everytime you made any progress you were here in the Forum to share your experience and your discoveries.


Man that was long time ago. Also long time ago was that we shared files here. But now this place has become and playing ground for newbies only!

Don't you think I'm getting tired if everyday I get the following msg:

Can you crack...??? Mail me....? ... doesn't work!!!

And believe me I got those every day! I don't have the time to answer those questions.
It didn't work to say that I'm not accepting any requests. Even that I wont mail anything to anyone (see other thread, I said: "I wont mail anything", schiz0 replied: "mail me", no offence but didn't he read my mail or is it hard to understand or what??)





This is a community and if someone does something he should share with others.


Ok! This is a community but I'll ask u: Who shared something with me???
All people here just asking for something!!





It's pretty lame by you to say "I cracked all this stuff (insert your list)" or "I cracked Hantro 3.3 even with a english translation better then the one around" and then at the end say "I almost forgot: I will not send it to anyone!!! These cracks will reach the public when the time has come!!".



Why is it lame? Because you can't get them when I post the list?
When u have understood my post I stated that the time is near that these cracks will be shared. So u guys can have a joyful anticipation.
The main thing I want to say is: I will not post any list of cracks here if I do not want to see them in public!
And to make things even clearer: I don't mail anything but the public will get the cracks! Understood: Someone will share them but it's not me!





What the hell does mean "will reach the public when the time has come" ? Maybe that there's some "elite people" who can get this stuff before anyone else


Yes there are elite people! And they get the stuff first. This is a privilege I wouldn't risk... (people will know what that means)

Just a question: Do u get blzpda releases in 0day??





and then once these programs will be old enough in a few weeks (PhotoSMS for example already got a new version 1.331 so your crack is already old before being released) everyone could get their hands on them?


I can't find a photosms v1.33. Even not on the developers page...
Why do people always want to have the newest stuff??
/me wonders...





Don't get me wrong atzplzw, I appreciate A LOT what you did in the past and do for the community (like I appreciate what Phantasm and others did) but your way to act is becoming really lame lately, like if you feel a superstar and that people has to beg you and wait for your releases.


If u have understood me... Just don't beg! That's the only thing. You will get it in time!! The only thing is: don't beg!





P.S. I'm not a newbie, this is not my real nick. I changed nick cause I got banned in the past from this Forum because I released some cracks by myself. I also cracked a game that everyone of you probably is still using, but I won't say now cause I don't want to get flamed.


U got banned from here? Man u must have done really worse...
Also I don't think cracking an app will get banned u from here. The mods appreciate what we do because if they wouldn't they already would have stopped that!
Also who should flame u when we just have a little discussion.
No u are trying to find excuses!

Personally I think u are to cowardly to show u'r real name because I know u and I would be surprised who this is if u show your real nick!



Hope this makes it all clear!
And if there is the request from the users here I'll not post any new release lists!

atzplzw

htreXists
28-02-2003, 01:40 PM
Well,
First of all, please be ware that english is my second language, so bare with my bad english!!!

Second,

I beleive that the problem here is :
People can't wait for the releases, atz said that they will be released, so he has the full right to release them when ever he wants, he's the one made them, so he's the one to decide when to release them!!! I beleive so.

Anyways, people, just follow his will, he doens't want PM's and e-mails asking for something, anybody want anything, just find it your self.


htreXists


P.S. Atz:
"I said: "I wont mail anything", schiz0 replied: "mail me", no offence but didn't he read my mail or is it hard to understand or what??)"
I think Schiz0 is a special case, he should have priviladges cause he's also one of the most here doing something... This is just my opinion.

Carpathian
28-02-2003, 02:18 PM
I've only been here for a few months (only got my 7650 in November last year) but I agree with the last post.

I think that new people here see lots of requests for things to be hacked/cracked/fixed and assume thats how things work on here.

This thread may be a good thing because now everybody can see that those that wish to Crack may not be the same people spreading the files later.

So, we should let those who wish to "Crack" do so, and let those who wish to "spread" do so. Also we should respect the peoples timings on these things as I'm sure they have their reasons !

All I'd say is to keep up the good work and try to be nice to newbies who don't realise to not beg etc - until somebody tells them otherwise they may not know they are doing wrong !!

Carpathian

mrcommodore64
28-02-2003, 02:25 PM
hiaz Phantasm. :)

LuKeStuD
28-02-2003, 02:35 PM
I somehow agree with that atz is talking about.

I have been here for a few months now, and I often see newbies requesting/begging for cracks n stuff.

It sometimes gets on the nerves that someone totally new here requests and begs. You're new here right? Why don't you get to know people first??

Sooner or later you'll know how things works.. Everyone would like to have something too, but why don't senior posters request??

Think before you act, this will save you a lot of time. And be humble, that doesn't harm you AT ALL...

LS

yankee_2002
28-02-2003, 03:01 PM
For those people who reversed engineer softwares, let us give them the freedom to share or not to share... We appreciate their hardwork even they do not want to share these files... I believe that this should not be released to public because of some existing laws related to anti piracy... As much as possible we should refrain from using the word crack, instead use "reverse engineering" - this is a safer word to use...
This is just a thought....

yankee

Kobayashi2B
28-02-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by mrcommodore64
hiaz Phantasm. :)

Hiya matey! You know me and I know u!;) You could have consulted w/ ur peers first b4 going somewhere else!!!!

Kobayashi2B
28-02-2003, 04:58 PM
NEITHER YOU NOR ME HAS THE RIGHT TO MANDATE/ORDER/ADVICE TO ATZ WHAT HE DOES W/ HIS CRACKED APPS!!!! IT IS ALL OUR PRIVILEDGE TO BE RECIPIENTS OF ATZ'S WORK!!!! Now if he feels that he doesnt feel the urge to release his cracks AT ONCE THEN that is his RIGHT AS THE AUTHOR OF THE CRACK!!!!

Do you all remember when Atz got fed up w/ all these kinds of stuff? Just to give you some flashback/insight.... People here at Nokiafree kept on barraging Atz w/ requests! But from the very beginning of atzs' cracking history here, he already stated that " I WILL ONLY CRACK STUFF THAT HAVE USE TO ME!" But what happened... people kept on requesting!!!! And to top that, people even scrutinized his works! A LOT of people here didnt even say thank you after downloading the file... How can we substantiate that you may ask... In the board index, ud see that the number of views VS replies and see a whopping number of people who viewed the thread and see that ONLY less than 1/4 of that number were replies like "thanks atz, good work... blah blah blah!"... youd see that the file was leeched/downloaded so much by people here but no "thank you" note to compliment that! Atz felt bad/offended about things here and ALMOST STOPPED supplying people here w/ his works!!!! But out of his generosity and kind heartedness, he still supplies us all w/ his great works!

Now from ur first post here in this thread... its clear that you know how to crack I presume... or is in the process of learning how to... let me try to recall... a game... cracked by someone else rather than atz... lemme guess... CELLPOKER... am I correct mate? U have the capacity to do these cracks! U've got the potential! Now if you feel that atz's behaviour, attitude isn't right or something... then feel free to follow his footsteps and do the cracks urself and do whatever you feel like doing with these cracks of yours!!!! but in the mean time... LET US ALL RESPECT ATZ DECISION! OK MATEYS!!!!:D

migueltan
28-02-2003, 06:07 PM
is there really an elite group that gets all the stuffs first??? can i join?

G-R
28-02-2003, 07:03 PM
There have always been elite groups that get stuff first and there always will be. Then theres irc, ftps, newsgroups, and finally last of all the websites get the stuff, this is usually the case but not always. Yes sure Id love to have the latest top applications and games released here as 0day but its not going to happen and Im quite happy with that. There reach here in the end after going through the system, some time a few days later, some times a month, but eventually they are available to all.

All good things come to those that wait.
G-R

mrcommodore64
01-03-2003, 01:25 AM
hear hear! good words indeed. :)
@migs you cannot
@kobayashi you mad
:D :D :D

pesa
01-03-2003, 05:05 AM
LOOOLL :p :p