Nokia 5165 AT&T to Cingular, help ?

[newbie]

I have a Nokia 5165 AT&T (version 6.03) . It works only on AT&T , I can change SOC and SID to Cingular but got "No service" . If I program SID & SOC to AT&T, It works fine (full signal).
I use Wintesla to clear out IRDB and use Cingular IRDB but still no hope....
Does anyone have that problem and how to solve that problem , please help......
I have another 5165 version 7.01....it works on AT&T and Cingular......

[green gerbil]

If you can change the SOC, SID and IRDB then there is nothing else preventing the phone from getting on cingular. Try resetting the phone a couple of times with NokiaClass.

[newbie]

I tried but no hope.... that phone only works on At&T ... I resetted it many time but still.
There is something I don't know.... I have couple phone before having same problem....I could not do it neither. Even I do "user transfer (Wintesla)" from another phone (work on AT&T-Cingular) but version (7.01)... Thank you anyway

[newbie]

Still no luck.
I do alot of phone before too (version 7.01) but this version (6.03) I couldn't do it .... I have Nokiasoc2. This is what I did:
1. Reset to default.
2. Custom reset (unlock SOC)
3. Do "*3001#12345# " to program SID and SOC (Cingular)
4. Power off and Power one.
5. "No service"
But if I program SID and SOC on AT&T -->> work fine.

I did the same thing with another model (TDMA)..... work both AT&T and Cingular....
I even clear out IRDB or copy IRDB from Cingular phone to it ....
I saved it on file and write back on AT&T phone still no luck

Any advice ?

[newbie]

I don't mind about $15.00. But I want to learn how to do it . I did alot of TDMA phone before and I don't have the issue like this....
I really appreciate your help .....

[ozarksguy]

I've had the same problem with one phone. It was locked to AT&Ts SOC of 2049. I unlocked it and did a user data transfer on Wintesla for a local carrier. The phone shows no service. In my case even reloading the ATT information did not help. Using the test mode the phone keeps switching to the F band and indicating no service (OOR-Out Of Range). Going back into the IRDB settings of wintesla and excluding the F band in scan order does no good either. And I've even tried using an external antenna...still no luck. The phone was working fine until I unlocked and transferred the user data. I don't know at what point it stopped working. The phone is a Nokia 5165. I have changed many other 5165s from AT&T and other carriers to a local one. This one's got me puzzled.

[newbie]

yup ! That is the problem I got.... I suceed on alot of phone , same model but different version..... I still don't know what is the problem

[warrenxxxxx]

Check the irdb in wintesla and you might find the answer in "forbidden sids" or "forbidden socs". Sometimes they list the competition in both. YMMV

ciao

W

[newbie]

I checked IRDB . I even use Cingular IRDB .... still " no service". ????:) . Thanks

[warrenxxxxx]

What did you find in the band search listing?? That used to confound me, till I started to use Nocclass to blow out the band locks and then reset them with Wintesla.

W

[telecaster]

Read IRDB from a Cingular fone again.
May have gotten a bad read....
This happened to me once and i had the same problem.....

[youmax]

Me parece que el problema que tienen los telefonos de at&T es que les bloquean el SCAN ORDER y por eso no agarran señal la mayoria de las veces, con el software nokiasoc podrias cambiar ese parametro. reseteando el IRDB queda el scan order en ab.
Espero que lo soluciones.
Saludos.
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It seems to me that the problem that has the telefonos of at&T is that they block SCAN ORDER and for that reason they do not take
hold signal many times, with software nokiasoc you can change that parameter. Resetting the IRDB the scan order change to "ab"
I hope that it solutions.
Greetings.

[warrenxxxxx]

That works, but still better if you have both programs is to clear the irdb (a la 8260) with Nocclass and then insert the band search motif you want with Wintesla.

W

[newbie]

I attached picture of IRDB that I program into the phone, Please advice.

[Mitrovich]

Estas trabajando solo en la banda de 800Mz

Your phone is using only 800 Mz Band

[newbie]

This is IRDB reading from the phone That works on AT&T and Cingular

[newbie]

After I program this IRDB (band order abABCDEF) . It stay on :Roaming....? what is wrong ? please help

[green gerbil]

Your band order is off. Change it arround till you find which band the cingular is in your area and put that band first.

[newbie]

In my area Cingular use band b. I try that , I won't work. I read NAM book, they said: 5165 some special version design for AT&T. I guess, That is why it did not work....Thanks

[ozarksguy]

Hi!

If you are getting roam in a home area for Cingular. Try this:

First of all using *#6391# and make sure to enter a phone number (press OK), then enter a five digit SID under code and press OK. This will tell the phone that when it finds that particular SID that it is on the home system and your roaming indication will probably go away.

Also under the IRDB information you are using, you have no partner SOC or SID information. The phone will use this to determine where it has home or preferred rates. You may need to copy this information from another Cingular phone.

Between the two you should have no trouble using the converted AT&T phone on Cingular. I do have the IRDB files for US Cellular if anyone needs them (TDMA markets only). And for AT&T.

Hope this helps!

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[newbie]

I have no problem with version 7.0 but version 6.03.... I might send the phone to you if you think you can help me..... I tried every thing.... I have some 5120i Cingular have the same problem that is " can not use for AT&T"......