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[sonicdeejay]

Hi all..

I'm total new in CDMA arena and need exprts help..

I like to clone a old CDMA(800 Mhz) to new CDMA,so that old CDMA can be discard...

what are the important things that I need to change(ESN/Min)..in order to achieve that?


pls enlighten me...

thanks in advance..
:)

[green gerbil]

esn, min, maybe a-key.

[sonicdeejay]

has to chang eESN,Min??

[green gerbil]

without the provider's help then you need to match the esn and min in both handsets. the esn must match, there is no other way.

[sonicdeejay]

thanks green..hav u heard about clone box?(tha clone clone the two cdma phone)..

[green gerbil]

never heard of a clone box. is it a standalone box that copies one phone from another or lets you alter the esn in a phone with the box?

[sonicdeejay]

yup..where can I find those box..any url? thanks green

[green gerbil]

dunno where to find the boxes. they are illegal. and if you did find them they would cost more than its worth.

[sonicdeejay]

Originally posted by green gerbil
dunno where to find the boxes. they are illegal. and if you did find them they would cost more than its worth.

any url..? dude,help me out..thanks

[razor1]

you can clone any CDMA to a Motorola 77xx, or 78xx with a simple program at calculates the Akey at the same, then flash the phone with the file it creates, works great, just like analog cloning but DIGITAL!

[REALTHOMAS]

ALSO I WANNA THAT BOXES BADLYYYYYY

:D

ALMOST AN ALADIN LAMP !!


A TIME AGO I TOLD YA STOP SMOKING THAT THING

[razor1]

not boxes, it's a program and .emg flash

[REALTHOMAS]

i know it and i have since almost yr ago :D

[cdma man]

look on http://jula.warlock.ru/cdma/

[sonicdeejay]

thanks..alot..

[gabek]

i have an app that gives me the subsidy lock code and the temporary min for any verizon phone, but how do i enter that into a motorola and/or nokia phone? Please email me. thanks

[razor1]

when you go into programming it asks you for the code, enter it then

[gabek]

no it doesn't, like on my v60, i go into the service menu, then nam programming, and nowhere does it ask for it, does anyone know an exact keystroke for the v60?

[razor1]

if it does ask for it, it's not subsity locked

[gabek]

so how do you do it?
do you have to switch to the other provider first?
i really would like to know?
can anyboyd help?
where do you go in the phone to enter the code?

[sonicdeejay]

Originally posted by razor1
you can clone any CDMA to a Motorola 77xx, or 78xx with a simple program at calculates the Akey at the same, then flash the phone with the file it creates, works great, just like analog cloning but DIGITAL!

where can I DL t progam??:)

[jibril_s]

how can i get a hold of the program that gives the subsidy lock on a verizon phone

[razor1]

i have it for sale for 250.00 us via paypal.

[ESN Authority]

If the old phone is an analog one...and you place that ESN on a new Digital..the operator will not activate digital functions like SMS and the like, that´s because for the operator your phones is identified (by the ESN) as an analog model...

You can move the ESN of a cheap digital oldie to a new high level digital w/o problems...but you should not move an old AMPS phone ESN to a new digital phone...

(oops sorry, i didn´t read well...no problem if the two phones are digital)

[razor1]

duh

[green gerbil]

thats the first time I have ever heard of a provider doing that. I've had amps accounts work with sms and web when moved to a digital handset. I have also had a-key incapable handsets be queried for an a-key by the provider(u hear the noise).

[gabek]

i have the app for sale that does verizon subsidy codes, i'm selling it if anyone wants it. thanks
email me

[sonicdeejay]

so..i can clone a phone just by programming ...

MIN and ESN of the old phone into the new desired phone right?

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[green gerbil]

if a-key authentication is not enforced then yes.

[sonicdeejay]

Originally posted by green gerbil
if a-key authentication is not enforced then yes.

if a-key authentication is enforced...,,how can I overcome it...?

:)

[ESN Authority]

..You´ll need an A-Key calculator soft, i have never used one of them because here the operator don´t use A-KEY (...by the moment..i guess soon they will be)..but i think it is not so complicated.
I strongly RECOMMEND you not to clone phones, it strictly prohibited by law..but that´s not he worst problem...i hope you want to clone your own number to have it in other handset..because if you clone someone else handset you have to be very careful not to use both handsets in different locations (regional limits vary from one operator to another..in some cases it´s so strict like the distance between a BTS and another) because the system will inmediatly detect "cloning" and will crash the line.

[green gerbil]

that will crash the line stuff is cellphone company FUD. Two phones that go to different towers will usually work for outgoing calls and will fight for the incoming (whoever picks it up first gets the call). Two phones within the same tower do funny stuff like fight for service. Sometimes u can even call the phone witht he clone by dialing your own number. Whatever happens it takes a complaint from the owner to shut down service in most areas.


As for the a-keys, the calculator probably does you no good. If the company uses one a-key for all handsets or just uses 0 then you can probably deal but if they assign a-keys OTA to each phone then there is very little you can do to clone (can read the a-key out of your handset if you clone your phone).

[ESN Authority]

Dear Green Gerbil.....seems like you are much more veteran than me in the matter!..
Please help me clear a doubt.....if i am transferring my ESN/MIN to antoher handset...and the company uses A-KEY..Can i just read the A-key of the first phone and write it in the other?

I tought A-KEY was a value calculated from the ESN! sorry for my lack of information...

Any information is appreciated..

...and sorry, by the way what does FUD and OTA means :)

[sonicdeejay]

Originally posted by green gerbil
that will crash the line stuff is cellphone company FUD. Two phones that go to different towers will usually work for outgoing calls and will fight for the incoming (whoever picks it up first gets the call). Two phones within the same tower do funny stuff like fight for service. Sometimes u can even call the phone witht he clone by dialing your own number. Whatever happens it takes a complaint from the owner to shut down service in most areas.


As for the a-keys, the calculator probably does you no good. If the company uses one a-key for all handsets or just uses 0 then you can probably deal but if they assign a-keys OTA to each phone then there is very little you can do to clone (can read the a-key out of your handset if you clone your phone).

I dun think my telco,,don't use A key as well..
so...jus writing MIn n ESN will do right??

[ismael_tc]

Don't use first...
but if you need...

here are

[green gerbil]

Fud is fear, uncertainty, doubt, its an acronym for something like rumor spreading and propaganda. OTA is over the air activation.
On your end the a-key only uses the ESN for the checksum you need to put in when entering it off the keypad. In the phone the A-key + ESN and I think min combine into an AUTH message that gets your phone an SSD_A value.


You can read the A-key out of most handsets. I know for sure how to do it on LG phones but others shouldn't be much harder (most cdma phones use qualcomm chips). Change the A-key to a known value on another handset and see if u can find it in the eeprom. Then you can make as many extensions as you want. Try it without the a-key first and see. They might assign them but not enforce them.