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pyroboy
29-10-2003, 02:02 PM
http://www.themobilematrix.com/index.asp?aff=pyroboy73
i dont know if you guys have seen this site yet but its legit, i have spoken to several people that already received their phone ( samsung p400). some people are actually selling this link on ebay (wtf?) but i am giving it to everyone for nothing, but i do ask one thing, that where it says who recommended you please write Travis Auty

i hope you all take advantage of this sweet offer

damdx
29-10-2003, 03:12 PM
Spam?????

If it were real.. Then it would be possible only if the mobiles were got at a steal.. Or if someone found a way to reinvent the wheel..

Louis6507
29-10-2003, 06:21 PM
IT'S A FU$KING PYRAMID SCHEME!!!!!!!!


How does it work?

When you buy one of our mobile phone CD-ROMs for £20, you are entered into the matrix list for free. When the required number of new members join, the person currently at the top of the list will receive their chosen handset.

It is important that you understand how the system works before you participate. In the example below, five new members are required to subsidise each free mobile phone. Mike has joined at the top of the list - he will receive his handset after five people buy a CD-ROM. Kerry is next in the list and she will receive her new mobile afer another five people have bought the CD-ROM.

Mike buys a CD-ROM Mike is waiting for four new members
Kerry buys a CD-ROM Mike is waiting for three new members
Andy buys a CD-ROM Mike is waiting for two new members
Claire buys a CD-ROM Mike is waiting for one new member
John buys a CD-ROM Mike receives his mobile
Matt buys a CD-ROM Kerry is waiting for four new members
Sue buys a CD-ROM Kerry is waiting for three new members
Paul buys a CD-ROM Kerry is waiting for two new members
Mary buys a CD-ROM Kerry is waiting for one new member
Jane buys a CD-ROM Kerry receives her mobile
Martin buys a CD-ROM Andy is waiting for four new members


Don't spend your money. These such scams are illegal in the US. I saw this on Ebay, and reported all three to the Internet Crimes Division of the FBI. This particular site is not based in the US, so I can't do anything about it.

But, how it works is; everyone mails this one person $x amount of money. Then, the person uses some of the profits to buy a few people phones. Once others see it working, the money rolls in by the hundreds per day. Then, the person disapears, and you're out $x amount of money.

This is a scam. It has been around in the US for over 2 years, and has even been in Taiwan for 6 months. In Taiwan, it is also illegal, and they will prosecute fraud charges.

I say again: DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY. DO NOT SIGN UP. THIS IS A PYRAMID SCHEME. IT IS ILLEGAL IN MORE THAN A FEW COUNTRIES. YOU WILL NEVER SEE A PHONE. YOU WILL ONLY BE OUT $X AMOUNT OF MONEY.

pyroboy
30-10-2003, 12:35 AM
Spam?????

If it were real.. Then it would be possible only if the mobiles were got at a steal.. Or if someone found a way to reinvent the wheel..


dude- did you even bother to click the link so you know what you are talking about?


chill out Louis6507 its not a pyramid scheme, an example of a pyramid scheme is where you pay for a spot in the pyramid, on this site you are paying for a product so its different.

as i see it, its worth the gamble. it is possible i could lose the money i invested- but i would still hve the games cd. or it is possible that this is legit ( remember i know people that have got their phones from here) and i could get brand new phone in a few weeks.

i think everyone should read thoroughly through the site before they start telling everyone not to do it

nowregistered
30-10-2003, 12:08 PM
it surely IS a pyramid scheme.

\quote
" an example of a pyramid scheme is where you pay for a spot in the pyramid, on this site you are paying for a product so its different"
\quote

Yes, you are paying for a product, AND being given a spot in the pyramid. You will receive the product only after the part of the pyramid below you grows by an exponential power (by 4 in this case). The exponential growth is certainly easy when the pyramid is small, but becomes impossible after a certain level. This in turn means that the pyramid will explode after a certain time and it will become impossible for the people at the lower levels of the pyramid (the newest members) to receive their phone. The number of such pepople who will not get the phones will be around one fourth of all the members.

Moreover, I am more than sure that noone will give you those mobiles for £20. I am ready to enter a bet with anyone! (you could search for the word 'arbitrage' to see why this is so). Every deal has to be fair for both sides!

So, the best case for one could be that you are one of the lucky guys with enough number of members in the pyramid below you, so that you can get your mobile. But you should not care about the new members!!!

pyroboy
30-10-2003, 12:23 PM
it surely IS a pyramid scheme.


Moreover, I am more than sure that noone will give you those mobiles for £20. I am ready to enter a bet with anyone! (you could search for the word 'arbitrage' to see why this is so). Every deal has to be fair for both sides!


it is fair????? we get mobiles for £20 and he gets the profit from about 26 X £20 minus the cost of a phone

i understand what you mean about being at the bottom of the list- it can take months!!!! But if you recommend people you move up the list
cant wait to get my e700!!

marky752000
30-10-2003, 12:37 PM
If it looks like a fish......

And it swims like a fish......


Don't waste your money.


Mark

Awake
30-10-2003, 12:58 PM
Remember, you're paying for the CD-ROM, not for a place on the Matrix list :D

What a nice CD-ROM it is :D

nowregistered
30-10-2003, 02:45 PM
it is fair????? we get mobiles for £20 and he gets the profit from about 26 X £20 minus the cost of a phone
!!



Yes. That's the point. He gets the 25x20 from the people EACH of which will have to find other people to get the phone. These new people EACH will have to find other people....
This IS the pyramid scheme with exponential growth. You can do some math to find out when the required number of people will exceed the population in UK!
AND in such case, there will be a lot of people who have no chance of getting phones! This is not fair! The total organization is deceiving the new members. That is why this is ILLEGAL!




i understand what you mean about being at the bottom of the list- it can take months!!!!



I say it WILL take forever!




But if you recommend people you move up the list
cant wait to get my e700!!



True. The point is: the later you attend the 'big_chance_big_favor_organization', the less chance you have to ever get a phone.
And the bottomline is: you are stepping your feet over the people you "recommend".

I repeat. Noone will give you those phones for £20 plus 'recommending' several other people. They will give you the phone for £20 plus persuading some other people to pay for the rest of the money for your phone and the organizers' profits. Big cheat!!!

Unique
30-10-2003, 06:46 PM
This is a scam....

You will most likely lose money...

It is a type of pyramid scheme.

You will gain nothing buy paying this money other than learning it is a scam.

If you dont believe us... try it and see =)

John

pyroboy
31-10-2003, 12:27 AM
Yes. That's the point. He gets the 25x20 from the people EACH of which will have to find other people to get the phone. These new people EACH will have to find other people....
This IS the pyramid scheme with exponential growth.



no it isnt, you obviously havent read how it works
you dont have to recommend anyone, it is just an option to speed up the time in which you get your phone. And if you recommend people, how can they be standing on your feet???????
for one, they move you up a spot in the list
secondly they help fill in the smaller list, thus the person at the top gets their phone quicker you move up faster.
you should probably analyse exactly how it works before you write it off completely

Unique
31-10-2003, 12:50 AM
no it isnt, you obviously havent read how it works
you dont have to recommend anyone, it is just an option to speed up the time in which you get your phone. And if you recommend people, how can they be standing on your feet???????
for one, they move you up a spot in the list
secondly they help fill in the smaller list, thus the person at the top gets their phone quicker you move up faster.
you should probably analyse exactly how it works before you write it off completely

I guess you have paid then?

Do tell me how it goes =)

John

leespud
31-10-2003, 01:20 AM
well this is a scam, if it does work mr pyro boy has posted his link for ever fone bought through his link he gets to jump to queue one place dont do it!!!!!

pyroboy
31-10-2003, 10:04 AM
I guess you have paid then?

Do tell me how it goes =)

John

yep :D i paid over a week ago



well this is a scam, if it does work mr pyro boy has posted his link for ever fone bought through his link he gets to jump to queue one place dont do it!!!!!


for one you just contradicted yourself
and two i made it clear in my first post that i wanted everyone to say that i recommended them. whats so wrong that?

nowregistered
31-10-2003, 12:47 PM
no it isnt, you obviously havent read how it works
you dont have to recommend anyone, it is just an option to speed up the time in which you get your phone. And if you recommend people, how can they be standing on your feet???????
for one, they move you up a spot in the list
secondly they help fill in the smaller list, thus the person at the top gets their phone quicker you move up faster.
you should probably analyse exactly how it works before you write it off completely

Please be careful when you say "you obviously havent read". I know that I have read it. And you cannot know even if I have not. Unfortunately you seem not to have read what I have written.

I did not say "they (will) be standing on your feet???????"; I rather said "you are stepping your feet over the people" which was meant to say YOU are using them to climb up (they are below, your feet is over them. See?). It is no different whether you recommend these people, or they come by themselves. They pay for you to get the phone plus the organizers' profits. So, YOU and the ORGANIZERS are using the other people's (new members') money.

Other than that, I did not say that you do not have a chance of getting a phone. I rather said you DO have chances of getting a phone if you find (or if there are) enough number of people to fill the places below. I also said that the later you attend the pyramid, the less chance you will be getting a phone because the pyramid is growing exponentially, and it WILL explode.

Clearly, the money paid by new members is partly used for older members in the above levels of the pyramid and partly for the organizers' profits.

Hence, at ANY time instant, there members who have paid, but got nothing in return (except the CD perhaps!). Please pay attention: This is true at the first week of the start of the pyramid, or the second week, or the third week, or at the time this thing finishes.

Now, consider the time in the future when this 'organization' finally finishes. There WILL certainly be many people who have paid, but got nothing in return. These people are CHEATED, DECEIVED. And the later this pyramid stops, the larger number of such people there will be! That IS NOT fair. That is ILLEGAL!

So, the logic is clear: This will end somewhere (even if all the people in the world join it); and at that time, there will be many people who have paid for nothing.

It is favour for the people who have got the phones (pay £20, get a £300-500 phone); it is favour for the organizers (get profit from each member). The law of conservation of mass says that SOMEONE HAS TO pay for these favors. And this someone is the NEW MEMBERS who have not yet got the phone at the end of this movie.

End of discussion for me. Sorry if this has bored you.

leespud
31-10-2003, 01:13 PM
for one you just contradicted yourself
and two i made it clear in my first post that i wanted everyone to say that i recommended them. whats so wrong that?

well if i said you have just used this forum for your own gain which is true it would piss alot of people off

Lozza
31-10-2003, 01:47 PM
Woah, Someone's getting screwed over! It's The New Members, and plus it is a pyramid scheme because the CD only has freeware, shareware and public domain stuff, which you can find anywhere. This costs about $AU70 and that's a lot of money. To put it in perspective I got my 3650 for $AU250 because Of a silent auction. This pyramid expands exponentially thus making the people who join now will get there phone, when it costs hardly anything. I don't care about this but I hope no-one has been tupid enough to do this scam. For A Hint I am Under 21 and I recognize this as a scam.

pesaPPO
31-10-2003, 02:02 PM
Omg! .

LinuxMoogle
31-10-2003, 02:56 PM
Hey Guys, Ive been viewing these boards for a while now and have learned many things from you guys about my phone (The excellent 3650) By the way that virus game is kick ass. Ok my main point. The mobile matrix isn't a scam. it works!!! how do i know this?? becuase ive had in total 8 phones from there one of which included my 3650 im using now, a 7250 for my bro, and other 3650 which i have got for friends and family. The simple answeer is that everyone who knows about this knows that there is a waiting list tat people must wait on for other people to join to pay for your phone for you. BUT!!! this cycle happens over and over you join!! and then the next 26 people who join pay for your phone. i know this sounds like a scam but honestly i thought it was when i joined it but i just thought at the end of the day its £20!! and if it takes a month to get my phone then hey!! ive still had a good phone for £20. By the way my 3650 tooks just over 3 weeks to get to me!!!! and it was boxed and unlocked straight from nokia!!!.
But!! the whole thing will soon slow down! so the best thing to do if you are willing to give it a go is to join it quickly before the lists slow down which means it'll take longer for you to get to the top of the list.
like i said i thought this was a scam but it really isn't!!! it's just giving people their chosen phone by using other peoples money to get it first! but like i said even if it takes 2 months at the end of the day you've just got a 6600 for £20! which im currently waiting for, if you look on the site you will see they are awaiting release of the phone before they can ship mine and the other few at the top!! i joined the list for the 6600 on sept the 28th and now it's ready to be shipped to me as soon as it's released and they get the stock. sorry guys but you've got some bits wrong anyone could set this up! oh and from looking at the cost of the phone striaght from a warehouse and the amount of people that it takes to buy a 6600 (which is 26 by the way) you will see that the person who runs the matrix only makes roughly £2 on each phone!!

Just thought i'd let you know this has wrked for me nearly 9 times now!! just waiting for my 6600.

marky752000
31-10-2003, 03:31 PM
Mr Linuxmoogle

What do you do for a living????

You don't by change run a web site called themobilematrix.com????


Mark

AlexTheStampede
01-11-2003, 12:50 AM
it effectively sounds like a rbbery,but...give a look at the site:it is my pc,or it is almost off.line?you can't even get to the "Buy now" page! :rolleyes:

pesaPPO
01-11-2003, 01:02 AM
AHAAHA LinuxMoogle...do u think someone will believe you??

nice one for ur first post
:lol: :lol: :lol:

pyroboy
03-11-2003, 10:54 AM
Mr Linuxmoogle

What do you do for a living????

You don't by change run a web site called themobilematrix.com????


Mark


lol i dont think so- if he did he would know that there is no 3650 on the site lol
dont know what hes on about??????

but anyway i wasnt gunna reply to this thread anymore but i saw lastnight that they have added the p800 to the site AND THERE IS NOONE ON THE LIST YET!!!
so if you were thinking about joining now is the time because you will start off near the top of the list and you could get your phone in days

anyway here is the link again
http://www.themobilematrix.com/index.asp?aff=Travisauty
please put my name travis auty in the box if the link doesnt do it for you

cheers

leespud
06-11-2003, 12:43 AM
lol i dont think so- if he did he would know that there is no 3650 on the site lol
dont know what hes on about??????

but anyway i wasnt gunna reply to this thread anymore but i saw lastnight that they have added the p800 to the site AND THERE IS NOONE ON THE LIST YET!!!
so if you were thinking about joining now is the time because you will start off near the top of the list and you could get your phone in days

anyway here is the link again
http://www.themobilematrix.com/index.asp?aff=Travisauty
please put my name travis auty in the box if the link doesnt do it for you

cheers


whats goin on the site has stopped being updated!!!!have amny people actually ordered phones from here??? they must have a really big bacck log, or have they actuallydecided to now do the runner with you lovely cash!!!

pyroboy
06-11-2003, 09:35 AM
whats goin on the site has stopped being updated!!!!have amny people actually ordered phones from here??? they must have a really big bacck log, or have they actuallydecided to now do the runner with you lovely cash!!!


i ordered my phone about 2 weeks ago i think
i have also noticed that the site hasnt been updated much recently, apparently he went away for a week and there is a massive backlog of orders.
i dont mind that it is heaps busy because it only means that ill get my phone quicker

leespud
06-11-2003, 04:17 PM
i ordered my phone about 2 weeks ago i think
i have also noticed that the site hasnt been updated much recently, apparently he went away for a week and there is a massive backlog of orders.
i dont mind that it is heaps busy because it only means that ill get my phone quicker


have you actually recieved the cd-rom???

Lord_Dani
06-11-2003, 06:25 PM
Woah, Someone's getting screwed over! It's The New Members, and plus it is a pyramid scheme because the CD only has freeware, shareware and public domain stuff, which you can find anywhere. This costs about $AU70 and that's a lot of money. To put it in perspective I got my 3650 for $AU250 because Of a silent auction. This pyramid expands exponentially thus making the people who join now will get there phone, when it costs hardly anything. I don't care about this but I hope no-one has been tupid enough to do this scam. For A Hint I am Under 21 and I recognize this as a scam.

Good for you, Lozza. For a person who is under-21 who can see that it's a scam, I have nothing to say to those who are older and falling for it.

leespud
17-11-2003, 09:05 PM
the site is listed on here

http://mobiles4everyone.com/compare6600.html

strange indeed

v_patel1
17-11-2003, 10:53 PM
Yeh i seen it, i nearly fell for it aswell :-o

gee2020
17-11-2003, 11:18 PM
hmmm that all seems really dodgy, i rekon if you wanna get a mob, hunt around!, find a good safe deal from a reputable shop and buy it. This way you will have a warranty, normal packaged acessories and peice of mind. Well ne way thats what i do b4 an upgrade. :)

ranxir
18-11-2003, 06:04 AM
I agree...this is bullshit! :lol: :D