PRODIGY Schematics and HEX

[kootp]

Neve tested.
Test it and post your results.

They said it works with

Prodigy 410 (http://www.shohra.com/ozzy/410.rar) and Prodigy 500 (http://www.prodigy-tools.com/software/Prodigy500.exe)

Cheers

[djveiox]

Thanks for the information. Im going to try to build this, and I'll report back to you the results. I have some questions, however.

In the text file included the PIC is reffered to as PIC18F452, and in the schematic it is PIC16F???. Is it 18 or 16? What is the proper value of C1?


I challenge others to build this and see what happens.

[Forhike]

Thanks for the information. Im going to try to build this, and I'll report back to you the results. I have some questions, however.

In the text file included the PIC is reffered to as PIC18F452, and in the schematic it is PIC16F???. Is it 18 or 16? What is the proper value of C1?


I challenge others to build this and see what happens.

This is it (http://213.65.113.105/~forhike/gsm/)

[celtec]

For prodigy try this link

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111043

[seldaoztas]

Hi Guys

I am New with PIC Flashing... Could someone tell me which PIC i can use always?? Here in an Electronic Shop they offer me

* PIC16F84-10/SO=84A-10=20/SO SMD
* PIC16F84-04/SO=84A-04/SO SMD
* PIC16F84-04P=84A-04P DIP
* PIC16F84-10/P=84A-10=20/P DIP

And does anyone know a Forum for PIC's and Microelectro???

[danwood76]

PIC18F452 is the correct one for the prodigy flasher!!

PIC16F84 is the most commonly used pic!

If I was you I would try to make the cheap flasher dongle first!!
It would be a lot easier!
The pic they use in that one is the 16F876 which is quite easy to get hold of!

Try searching the net for it you will probably find it on an electronics shop online!!

[Forhike]

Here is some online stores that have he most...

www.farnell.com

www.elfa.se

[Forhike]

does anyone have new hex for prodigy 1.05 ?

[gip_mad]

hey boys! why buy if you can get a free sample?
check on www.microchip.com !!!
:) :lol: 8-)

[Forhike]

hey boys! why buy if you can get a free sample?
check on www.microchip.com !!!
:) :lol: 8-)

free sample of what?
if you ment information about pic's thats ok,
but it sounds like they offer free hex files for prodigy

[kootp]

Yes. Free samples of PIC and 24LC256 chips.
You can get upto 5 of each of them from Microchip.


Thanks

[danwood76]

Free PICs etc.

I ordered the PIC and Eeprom for free so now I have a spare of each!
Hope the order comes through

regards,
Danny

[gip_mad]

free sample of what?
if you ment information about pic's thats ok,
but it sounds like they offer free hex files for prodigy

FREE pics and memories, up to 5! directly sent at your home!

[gip_mad]

Correct part number to place orders (not for SMD circuit):
memory: 24LC256-I/P
Pic: PIC18F452-I/P

I'm going to design a pcb for the one who don't want to use smd. the one I found is crap.
will share when is ready!

[Forhike]

http://hallah.nu/~forhike/gsm/Prodigy_PCB_40PIN_PIC.bmp

[gip_mad]

perfect! you saved me a lot of work!
For power supply I will use:

Microchip TC1185-4.0VCT713 FOR 4V
Microchip TC1267VETTR FOR 3.3V

Wich I ordered from microchip, for sample obviously! :-)

Before the two IC, remember to put a 7805!

See ya

[Forhike]

and here is components placement

http://213.65.113.105/~forhike/gsm/Prodigy_PCB_40PIN_PIC_Prodigy_components.bmp

[danwood76]

Very Nice!!

A lot better than the one I was designing,
Dunno if I need to bother now.... Will still design it and probably make both!

So the powersupply thing on your PCB there is only one connection and I thought it needed two different ones (4v and 3.3v)
What power supply needs to go across the + & -??

so is it 100% tested and working??

[Forhike]

TO ALL!!!
download the pcb and component list again, i have made an update!

danwood76:

i was thinking of using a scharger that have 6volt output then use a led and diode to drop the voltage. the led uses 1.2v and the diode 0.7
thats 1.2+0.7=1.9
6 -1.9=4.1 and that aprox 4.0 as in VCCpH =p

and to drop the voltage abit more i did add another diode in the end to drop voltage 0.7v more

and that gives me 3.4v that should be great to power the pic that can be powered from 2-5 volts

so VCCpH = 4.1 V
VCC3.3 = 3.4 V


if you folow the schematics you will se that after the led and diode, i have conected VCCpH and after a led and 2 diodes i have conected VCC 3.3 =)

offcourse it's all teoretical and untested =p

[gip_mad]

mh... not a very good solution at all... I prefer to do this with my loved stabilizer and keep the old schematic. as you said,this is theorically.... but you forgot to keep in mind the current.... yeah, a led uses 1,5V.... but you will blow it up if you put on him a current higer than about 30mA(depends on diode)... it is better to put 3 normal diodes in serie... 0.7*3=2.1 and 6-2.1=3.9
that's all!

[danwood76]

I have oredred up some voltage regulators off Microchip anyway so I will try your schem but without your LED and Diode thingy

I will have to build another board for this supply but will use the USB power to power my Prodigy rather than a 6v charger

[Forhike]

I have oredred up some voltage regulators off Microchip anyway so I will try your schem but without your LED and Diode thingy

I will have to build another board for this supply but will use the USB power to power my Prodigy rather than a 6v charger

perhaps you could help me with the power suply, then i could use the usb to, that should be more easy for me than have to use a external 6volt.

if you can say what components you will use and draw a schema i can add that to my pcb to

[danwood76]

I draw you one at college today and I'll design a PCB if I have the time!!

Its pretty basic though!

5v from usb into both regulators
0v going to ground

3.3v out to VCC rail
4v out to VCCph

of course there is an activation pin on one of the regulators so I'll post the schematic!!

regards,
Danny

[danwood76]

@ Forhike

I just redrew your layout in the end made a couple of changes but none that effect the way the circuit works.
I couldn't get the scale right on your BMP so I have redrawn in quickroute as a .PCB
If anyone needs it

I will build the board up on monday/tuesday so I will test it then

regards,
Danny

[Forhike]

I draw you one at college today and I'll design a PCB if I have the time!!

Its pretty basic though!

5v from usb into both regulators
0v going to ground

3.3v out to VCC rail
4v out to VCCph

of course there is an activation pin on one of the regulators so I'll post the schematic!!

regards,
Danny

if found a solution now
i did find a LM2574N-3.3 at www.elfa.se
i have made schematics for VCCpH an VCC3.3

so i'l ad them to my pcb later today or tomorrow

[sigma]

i can't wait to build this unit cos i've been lookin to get a prodigy clone for some just can't really afford em but can someone please tell me some bits and pieces
where can i get my hands on a 7.3mhz crystal and secondly is there anyone prefferable in ireland or uk (for speed) but any one that could program the ic's for me and do i need both vers of it 4.1 and 5 whats the diff between em or do i just need ver 5 and what is the actual size of the pcb i need to know cos i'm just goin to print the the pcb layout onto a press and peel page and lay this to the pcb thanks for all your help keep u the great work

[Forhike]

@ Forhike

I just redrew your layout in the end made a couple of changes but none that effect the way the circuit works.
I couldn't get the scale right on your BMP so I have redrawn in quickroute as a .PCB
If anyone needs it

I will build the board up on monday/tuesday so I will test it then

regards,
Danny


could you send me the pcb file ?
could same we alot of time when i do the final version of the pcb, and i think i can but tracks closer and make the board abit smaller f i use real software

[danwood76]

Its on my college harddrive
and I don't go in till monday :sad:
But I will post it then

The board I drew is a little bigger due to the fact that I needed to make some tracks wider but it ain't too bad
If I had spent more time I could have made it smaller.

Have you got quickroute?

[Forhike]

Its on my college harddrive
and I don't go in till monday :sad:
But I will post it then

The board I drew is a little bigger due to the fact that I needed to make some tracks wider but it ain't too bad
If I had spent more time I could have made it smaller.

Have you got quickroute?


no don't have, i only have eagle pcb, but could you give a the adress where to download quickroute ?

[adi]

sommewhere on the net I find this:

"The 18F452 is pin compatable with the PIC 16F877, but gives you twice the code space and more than four times user RAM. In addition, this device can be run at speeds of up to 40 MHz. "

So I wonder if this dongle can be maked with PIC 16F877,and does the value for the crystal can be changed f.e. to 8MHz or 7,5MHZ.
Thank's

[danwood76]

@ Forhike

I don't know where you can download it as I got it from college!
If ure in the UK I could probably send you a copy on CD

I don't have broadband so can't really upload it/send it! :sad:

[Forhike]

sommewhere on the net I find this:

"The 18F452 is pin compatable with the PIC 16F877, but gives you twice the code space and more than four times user RAM. In addition, this device can be run at speeds of up to 40 MHz. "

So I wonder if this dongle can be maked with PIC 16F877,and does the value for the crystal can be changed f.e. to 8MHz or 7,5MHZ.
Thank's

don't think that is posibly, but if's correct, you have re remake the hex to get it to work,
why don't you get a free PIC 18F452 at microchips.com ?
lock some post above

[danwood76]

I got mine the other day!
Took about a week to get to me but they were 100% free!!

@ Forhike

Unfortunatly haven't made board today will have done by thursday/friday

What changes have you made to the RJ45 connections in one and the other??
I am going to be using the cables from my cheap flasher just gonna make an adapter from serial to RJ45 what are the pinouts of the RJ45 on the schematic??
Are they the same for dct4 and dct3?

cheers,
Danny

[danwood76]

Can't you buy it from the Microchip website??

I may be able to send you one of my free samples dunno how much postage costs etc. would be though

[danwood76]

My prodigy dongle is now 50% working as the PIC communicates with the PC

I am just about to make some cables BRB

also does anybody know where I can get the latest hex code for version 1.05??

[Forhike]

My prodigy dongle is now 50% working as the PIC communicates with the PC

I am just about to make some cables BRB

also does anybody know where I can get the latest hex code for version 1.05??

hello!

it's time for me to get back to start work with the prodigy again =p

nice to see that you got it to work =)
i have got the pic and eeprom now, and the rest of the components are on the postal office =)

can you take a picture of your dongle so i can see how it locks like in real life ? =p

sheers, i'l contact you on icq later !!

[danwood76]

I shall post a pic when I fins my digital camera

I have now got everything to work now ;)

Although I cannot get my cheap dct3 flasher leads to work with it as my 3310 connector has no battery connector :sad:

But I can still read all info etc for dct3 phones

I do not have ICQ but do have msn

Have you found the latest Hex yet??

regards,
Danny

BTW

I used diodes in the end instead of regulators the only problem with this is that you cannot power a dct4 into normal mode with it as the current is limited you can still set local mode so flashing is fine

Also there was one problem on my board as I forgot to put space for one of the 24pf caps on the crystal so it is soldered on underneath instead :D

[danwood76]

Just tried to flash my 7210 with prodigy and no luck!!

Is this because I have no connection for the enable of the phone power??
I have a couple of LM317s and may have a BC548A so would be able to use for the supply of phone

On the power supply board thing on your ftp what are the values of all the components there as they only have numbers!
I am unsure which are capps and which are resistors

All other features, eg unlocking, factory reset etc. work fine

cheers,
Danny

--- Edit ---

Added pics of DIY prodigy

[danwood76]

Heres my .pcb file not finished yet as it has no shutdown power supply

you will need to rename it to a .pcb from .txt

It is for quickroute 2
I can give this to people if they don't have it! ;)

WBR
Danny

[Forhike]

Heres my .pcb file not finished yet as it has no shutdown power supply

you will need to rename it to a .pcb from .txt

It is for quickroute 2
I can give this to people if they don't have it! ;)

WBR
Danny

tnx =)

i'll try to make my pcb today and program my pic, perhaps i have my prodigy ready for testing on wednesday =)

what config words did you use for the pic ?

[danwood76]

The ones that are on your ftp

You have to change two of the configs I think

[kootp]

tnx =)

i'll try to make my pcb today and program my pic, perhaps i have my prodigy ready for testing on wednesday =)

what config words did you use for the pic ?


config words already set in the hex files. i built one box and working fine 100%.

Good luck

Thanks

[kootp]

use this FIXED files with IcProg105c

[danwood76]

Has it got a decent serial number and version model

[Forhike]

tnx i'll program the pic as soon as i can =)

kootp: did you use public pcb layout when you did build your prodigy ?
give me some more info about your dongle =p

i think i'll need alot of info now when i have started my project again =/

[kootp]

@Forhike

No. I built it on a vero board. (Hole board is easier than strip board).

Use 24LC128 or 24LC256 EEPROM and program with prodigy_EEPROM_new.bin

[Forhike]

@Forhike

No. I built it on a vero board. (Hole board is easier than strip board).

Use 24LC128 or 24LC256 EEPROM and program with prodigy_EEPROM_new.bin


tnx i'll try the eeprom =)

[danwood76]

I just updated my PCB

It now has power supplies both using LM317's
And shutdown using BC109 or BC547 or equivelant
And programming Pins

Also the pinout is not the same as griffin
I will post it is its needed! :-P

[Forhike]

I just updated my PCB

It now has power supplies both using LM317's
And shutdown using BC109 or BC547 or equivelant
And programming Pins

Also the pinout is not the same as griffin
I will post it is its needed! :-P

eyy nice work, i will probably make that pcb, it locks realy great =)

ps. did program 2 pic's today one with the hex above and one with other 5.00 hex that i have, and i have ordered pcb now, i'l get them on friday =)

[danwood76]

I forgot to say that I accidentally left off one of the 24 pf capps on the crystal :sad:

I just put it on underneath and it seems to work

[danwood76]

The only way I managed to programe the PIC was with the config on your ftp and NOT in the file

I had to program the one with the file afterwards

[danwood76]

Here is the schematic for the powersupply on my PCB

As requested

[gsmsikar]

please can anyone give me the pcb file?

thanks

[Forhike]

please can anyone give me the pcb file?

thanks

the pcb is some posts above

you could use this

or this direct link

http://hallah.nu/~forhike/gsm/Prodigy_PCB_40PIN_PIC_RJ45FIX_POWER_BETA.bmp

resize it to 55% and print


or if you want .pcb file you could use danwood76's he have made a realy good layout

[adi]

the pcb is some posts above

you could use this

or this direct link

http://hallah.nu/~forhike/gsm/Prodigy_PCB_40PIN_PIC_RJ45FIX_POWER_BETA.bmp

resize it to 55% and print


or if you want .pcb file you could use danwood76's he have made a realy good layout

I made this box,but since I have'nt appropriate crystal I used another with value 8 MHz,and caps also 22pF.So, I wonder if it's the reason why my box don't work.
Can You guys test yours boxes with this crystal (8MHz) and 22pF caps?
Please ansver me your tests.
Thank's

[danwood76]

The Caps don't really matter I have 27pf in mine

The crystal may need to be exact as thats what the program running in the PIC uses to time all its functions

Check both of your vouts

Vcc and
VccPh

Vcc should be 3.3v and the other should be around 4.0v

regards,
Danny

Ps, I noticed a problem on my board
There are too many pins for the DB25 I should have my board running by the end of the week so I will post results then!

[adi]

The Caps don't really matter I have 27pf in mine

The crystal may need to be exact as thats what the program running in the PIC uses to time all its functions

Check both of your vouts

Vcc and
VccPh

Vcc should be 3.3v and the other should be around 4.0v

regards,
Danny

Ps, I noticed a problem on my board
There are too many pins for the DB25 I should have my board running by the end of the week so I will post results then!
Mine values of voltage is :
Vcc 3.8V
Vph 3.95V and I cant find what is the problem couse I made power supplay with couple of stabilizer LM317 and BC547 transistor.
Am I understand You still have'nt working Dongle???Does the software detect |Your dongle.
Wich hex you programmed your PIC,with original or modified for IC-Prog105c
Thank\s

[danwood76]

You should have 3.3v going to the PIC

What did you program the PIC with?
If you used the JDM make sure that IC prog verifys the code as it writes it as it won't be able to afterwards

Post your method of programming please

I got both the hex files detecting my dongle but didn't have the correct power supply so I redesigned my board and am just waiting for components

I am using 2 LM317s in mine one LM317T and an LM317LS i think

regards,
Danny

[lsld7]

Can anyone upload or send me a picture of their finished working circuit board, including the power circuit 3.3v and 4v incorporated on the board, preferably with component placment picture or diagram as well, a circuit diagram of the circuit they built, and the pinouts of the rj45 plug, and is this wired to the progidy or griffin standard? as i can find griffin leads, but cant find a source of prodigy cables.
The reason im asking is several people have uploaded part finished diagrams, or added bits afterwards and so on, i'd just PLEASE :) :like a copy of a finished working board, diagram and pics
Thanks for listening to my ramblings...

[danwood76]

I should have mine finished tommorow so I will post pics etc. if it works

Also I will make a component layout as I have just acuired autoCAD so I can make the files easily ;)

By the way you could make a simple patch cable with some cat 5 utp cable and some connectors

I have made on to convert my RJ45 into the db9 for my cheap flasher leads
also I have one going from RJ45 to my PS/2 style connector for my cheap dct3 leads

I have also made ones going straight from the RJ45 to say my 3310 and 8210 connectors so its pretty easy to make them

To make your own cables you will need RJ45 male connectors, a crimping tool and some cat5 utp cable
All can be baught off of farnell, maplins, CPC, etc, etc for little money

regards,
Danny

[danwood76]

Here is my final scheme, componet layout, parts list, etc.

It also contains the proggy I made my pcb with so you can open it and print it the correct size

regards,
Danny

[bahaafaza]

danwood76:
Hay I join the forum yesterday but I were working and attempt to built
my one prodigy I suppose that I got alot off benefits from your experiments
I programmed the pic with the fixed hex file (IcProg105c) yesterday and the dongle work
the pc detect it but I wonder about this three points :
1- is your circuit works with Griffin or prodigy connector (Rj45)
kootp:
2- is the eeprom 24LC256 contains data and the file prodigy_EEPROM_new.bin the target file
if that is right this files (kootp) is out off eeprom range that my proggramer (picall) tell me
I use 24C256 instead off 24LC256 is this work ?
3- I connect 3650 with Griffin connector to prodigy I made and it did'nt detect the phone
put the phone can turn on only what must I do ?
Thanks for all .

[kootp]

@bahaafaza

NO!! you must use 24LC256 eeprom. Schematic in the ZIP file of danwood76's is work with Griffin cable.

Good Luck

[danwood76]

The 24LC254 is the correct eeprom
The PIC18LF452 is the correct PIC although some people did get the PIC18F254 to work also

Lots of people have been asking me how to program the PIC here are some links:

JDM programmer schematic thanks to forhike for his ftp!

http://213.65.113.105/~forhike/gsm/Nokia/Schematics/prodigy/Pic%20Programer/

Here is a link to the program ICprog witch is a program that works with the JDM thanks goes to Dr Bizar for this link

http://blight.dk/nokia/schematic/programmer/icprog105.zip

I built my JDM on strip board and it works 100% now

regards,
Danny

[Abe]

I see that output power to the pic is 3.3v. so it means that u dont even need to put EXTERNAL POWER but u can put power from USB as usb power has 5 volts.Just small modification needed to convert it from +/- 5v to stable 3.3 volts. And no need for other cable that usb power and lpt port. better to use cause i hate external power ;-)).

[Forhike]

danwood76:

nice o see that you are geting somewhere with your podigy,
i still don't have any working pcb =(
i did send away the pcb layout to a electronic company, and i did recive the pcb's but the where wrong, they had made them in "mirror" so i'm quite angry =/ i still had to pay them =(

i supose the best way is to make them myself

[bahaafaza]

more question still in my mind :
is the eeprom 24LC256 contains data and the file prodigy_EEPROM_new.bin the target file in upper posted
if that is right this files (kootp) is out off eeprom range that my proggramer (picall) tell me

thanks

[kootp]

Programme it with IcProg1.05c

Thanks

[danwood76]

I used Pony Prog to program my eeprom

it is a very simple serial programmer works 100%

regards,
Danny

[bahaafaza]

Hi danwood76 & kootp
I do'nt understand I must program my eeprom with the file named fixed hexfile for IcProg1.05c or I must program my eeprom with the file named prodigy eeprom new .
but I must clear that my pc see my box when I program the pic18F452 with
the file named fixed hexfile for IcProg1.05c but the box can't see the phone

[Forhike]

i did program my eeprom with multiprog (mp 3.5)
and did use the same application i have to program smartcards, did program it without errors.

[bahaafaza]

Hi all my prodigy worked put I have some problem:
prodigy becoame able to see the phone and I connect 3650 to it
1-in the beggening it can format user data and do test and enter phone in all mode
but after awhile it could'nt enter phone in test and local mode the Lm317 get hot
2-when I attempt to flash phone appear this Error masage :
MSID Request Error :1 can any one tell me the solve off this problem thanks .

[danwood76]

@bahaafaza

1) The LM317T will get hot as it gets rid of any excess voltage as heat, you may need to put a heat sink to this depending on what Vin you have
If it overheats it will burn out and not be able to give out the correct amount of current so replace the LM317 if necessary

2) Your prodigy eeprom is either empty or has incorrect information in it reprogram it

Which board layout did you use or did you design your own?
If you designed your own could you post it here?

regards,
Danny

[bahaafaza]

I made the one you had made and I programm the eeprom with the file new
eeprom and I become do any thing with phone but I can'nt flash it only
I use the eeprom 24c256 becuse I did'nt found 24lc256 in our country
I convert the bainary file to coded intel hex file in8hex by using the program
icprog and program my eeprom with picall programer
I wonder from any country you are
thanks

[danwood76]

MSID Request Error 11 is to do with the algorithm in the eeprom
I would suggest making the pony programmer

It is very easy all it is is 2 zener diodes, a DB9 connector and some wires

very easy here is the picture

regards,
Danny

[gip_mad]

danwood76:

nice o see that you are geting somewhere with your podigy,
i still don't have any working pcb =(
i did send away the pcb layout to a electronic company, and i did recive the pcb's but the where wrong, they had made them in "mirror" so i'm quite angry =/ i still had to pay them =(

i supose the best way is to make them myself

If you want i can make a good PCB for you, i have all stuff for photoincision... just send me some euro for the empty pcb and delivering, and a mail with your PCB and i do the work...

[adi]

I made prodigy box and have somme sugestions:
- Software is found the dongle only when I programmed PIC with fixed_hex file.
- With my dongle I may read phone info,unlock it, but when I tried to flash my 3510i software say: Can'nt put phone in flash mode,Tx pin remain high
I also dowloaded latest FIA files from official site www.prodigy-tools.com but without success.
I wander if this fixed hex file is fake????DId any use this file and flashed DCT-4 phones.
Please answer me Thank\s

[Forhike]

If you want i can make a good PCB for you, i have all stuff for photoincision... just send me some euro for the empty pcb and delivering, and a mail with your PCB and i do the work...

Hello!!
it would be great if you could help me out =)
how much would you want?

To all::
have anyone been able to flash a dct4 phone with this free hex and schematics for prodigy ? =/

danwood76:
could you write to me on icq when you are online,
need help with recovering a water damaged phone =/

[danwood76]

@ Adi

I had this problem but bahaafaza made the same board and got it to nearly work

What cables have you got for it?
Which board hae you made?
I think griffin cables work fine with my latest board design so try some of them ;)

regards,
Danny

[gip_mad]

I made prodigy box and have somme sugestions:
- Software is found the dongle only when I programmed PIC with fixed_hex file.
- With my dongle I may read phone info,unlock it, but when I tried to flash my 3510i software say: Can'nt put phone in flash mode,Tx pin remain high
I also dowloaded latest FIA files from official site www.prodigy-tools.com but without success.
I wander if this fixed hex file is fake????DId any use this file and flashed DCT-4 phones.
Please answer me Thank\s

did you turn off phone? the phone must be switched off when you start to flash.

anyway... how did you programmed your pic? my programmer doesn't see it... what pin did you connect? what settings did you used in your sw? tnx

[adi]

did you turn off phone? the phone must be switched off when you start to flash.

anyway... how did you programmed your pic? my programmer doesn't see it... what pin did you connect? what settings did you used in your sw? tnx

I programmed my PIC 18F452 with JDM programmer (smart mouse) and IC-Prog 1.05c software.But You must use HEX file named 500_new_hex_fixed_for_icprog105c.hex (download it sommewhere on this thread).But on this HEX file You must manually change config word to original value:
For version 5.00 hex:

Config1 - 2600
Config2 - 0e0c
Config3 - 0100
Config4 - 0800
Config5 - c00f
Config6 - c00f
Config7 - 400f
ID value - 0f0f0f0f0f0f0f0f
Cheksum - 67bbh

and decrease delay to 1 in IC-Prog option Settings/Harware.Also add 10K Resistor between RB5 ( pin 38 )and ground (pins 12 and 31) and in IC-Prog in Settings/Option/Programming put checks on Verify after and during programming.

[kootp]

I programmed my PIC 18F452 with JDM programmer (smart mouse) and IC-Prog 1.05c software.But You must use HEX file named 500_new_hex_fixed_for_icprog105c.hex (download it sommewhere on this thread).But on this HEX file You must manually change config word to original value:
For version 5.00 hex:

Config1 - 2600
Config2 - 0e0c
Config3 - 0100
Config4 - 0800
Config5 - c00f
Config6 - c00f
Config7 - 400f
ID value - 0f0f0f0f0f0f0f0f
Cheksum - 67bbh

and decrease delay to 1 in IC-Prog option Settings/Harware.Also add 10K Resistor between RB5 ( pin 38 )and ground (pins 12 and 31) and in IC-Prog in Settings/Option/Programming put checks on Verify after and during programming.


For me and most people who build this, cofig. not need to set manually. It is configured in this file. I used IC_Prog105c and JDM Programmer.

Don't put "Verify after programming" option to program this file. because this file is Code Protected -that means you can't read after write.

uncheck "Verify after programming" option.

Thanks

kootp

[adi]

I have one simple question.
Does any guy ho made this box be able to flash Nokia DCT-4 phones???
I tried various phones (3510i , 7210,6610) but vithout of success?
Do You need to download and istall FIA files from prodigy support site www.prodigy-tools.com , or it's included in prodigy 500 instalation file.In my prodigy destination folder I cant find any FIA folder after software 500 instalation,so I tried to download latest FIA (I dont know if this files work for prodigy 500) from official site.
Where I'm wrong??? Please help me Thanks

[danwood76]

When you download one of the official nokia firmware updates they dont only have MCU, PPM etc
they have the FIA files you need for that specific phone :)
So you should have them already

I have not been able to flash DCT4 yet as I have not one to try it on :(
My 7210 has long since lost the ability to communicate with my PC :(

regards,
Danny

[adi]

I must inform peoples who's yet in doubt about flashing with Prodigy that I have one Nokia 8310 ver. 6.04 flashed with Prodigy Box yesterday,so I suppose that other phones also can be flashed with it.
I read manual for flashing DCT-3 phones,but I wonder where to find DCT-3 FIA and TIA loaders or it's a part of WINTESLA instalation pack.
IF somewhere exist WinTEsla flashing plugins for downloading (with FIAs and TIa files) please tell me.
If it necessary to download original WinPhoeniks flash packs (which is about 16MB) for flashing with PRODIGY,or it's possible to use standard MCU&PPM files without of content pack files
Thank's

[gip_mad]

here are the loaders, but you have to choose them depending on the flash ic on phone. maybe the sw does it automatically... i dunno, i didn't already finished my box... still unable to program the pic :-(

[adi]

I only flashed one 8310 with no problems,but still cant flash p.ex. 3510i sw.ver 4.44 or 7210 with new sw.ver.
Where I,m wrong.VCC voltage on my PIC is a little bit diffrent 3,85 V ,so I vonder if it may be reason for flashing errors.
IF any have somme usefull sugestions please tell me.
Thank's

[danwood76]

I think there needs to be a 0.7v difference between the Vbatt and Vcc I may be wrong though

Try changing the voltage into the pic, if you are using the LM317 then you only need to change 2 resisitors ;)

regards,
Danny

[kootp]

Working with most phones except newer ones.

Thanks

[gip_mad]

or, you can simply put a diode from 3.87v to the input of circuit, and you'll have 3.2v-3.3v to use!

[bahaafaza]

:roll:
Hi all I build the prodigy with danwood board but I found one error in it that the ground of the serial eeprom is not connected to the main GND and I use 24LC256 eeprom and programed it and programed pic18f452 with the fixed hex file and flash nokia 3650 with this prodigy and it work good with my I used griffin cables but there is one task we have to do its to make our prodigy can be updated I am tryng to do that by changing the configuration word of pic18f452 is any one trying do that ?
thanks

[punkserb]

hello everyone. reading all this has made me so excited. i really hate to sound like a noob and am sorry for threadjacking but could not find info elsewhere.

my question is: you guys use pony prog from what i hear for the programming. but you need hardware as well? is there any particular programmer you prefer or can i just get any cheap one off ebay that supports the 24 series eeproms? and such eeproms can be had for free from the microchip website as samples from what i understand.

what would you say to this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4661&item=3810799362&rd=1

i thought the pic16F84 was a microcontroller though that didn't need programming? or am i way off??? :cry:

i like electronics and all this very much, but i'm having trouble determining where and how to start. if there is a thread that explains this stuff, please direct me to it, i couldn't find it by searching.

thank you.

[punkserb]

ok i'm answering many of my own questions now. i realize i do need to program a microcontroller as well as an eeprom. now i see you guys are using the pic18f452, but the programmers i see for that chip are very expensive. the cheaper ones (as well as the one i found on ebay on the link above) program the pic16 family of chips.
i'm assuming i can't just substitute a pic16 for a pic18, right? in that case, what programmer do you recommend for pic18? or did you build that yourself too?

damn you guys are so smart, you are my role models now, i want to learn as much as i can, i love this.

[danwood76]

I have updated my PCB :)
thanks bahaafaza
here it is

regards,
Danny

[danwood76]

You can program the PIC 18LF452 with the JDM programmer that is on that e-bay item
the only thing is that you will need to make some modifications as the programing pins for the 18F452 are in different places (and the 18F452 has 40 pins ;))

If you build the board I designed then it has the pins on it anyway so you will only need to put 4 jumpers in from the programmer from ebat and the PCB

If you can make PCBs then you should use the board I designed although as bahaafaza said I was missing a ground on my eeprom and crystal pins
I have fixed it and it is in the file I posted above

All the stuff that is needed to print off this file and a list of components etc is in there accept the hex files which are in this thread anyway

hope this has helped :)
regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

danny thank you very much for the response. i added you to my contact list on ICQ, my handle is Nemik there, i hope you don't mind.


i have no idea how to build PCB's but i will learn. there is first time for everything, and this is something i like. i will give it a shot building with your schematic. i have also downloaded the hex files.

now to clarify, what will this do? It can propgram eeproms and pic18f452's, but now what do you do with those? once you program them correctly with the hex files, you add them as components to yet another board and with that you make the prodigy clone, correct? wow i'm lost, but i think i may just need to re-read the thread and look up more info on this board, there is a lot of it.

if i have questions or get lost, would it be alright to ICQ you? thank you again very much for all your help and the nice response.

[danwood76]

i have no idea how to build PCB's but i will learn. i will give it a shot building with your schematic. i have also downloaded the hex files.


It may be easier for you to build this on stripboard as etching PCBs is dificult for newbies, beside that the equipment needed is quite expensive

You can send PCBs off to companies who will create the boards for you, you then just place the components on the board and solder them on



now to clarify, what will this do?


you can program lots of different PICs with the JDM programmer it is very versatile :)
but different PICs have different programming pins so you need to check which pins are the right ones on data-sheets

And yes when you have sucessfully programmed the PIC and Eeprom then you can place them on the board you have made for you prodiy clone and hopefull flash away :)

it is best to buy griffin cables as they work 100% with the PCB I have designed



if i have questions or get lost, would it be alright to ICQ you? thank you again very much for all your help and the nice response.

Yeah if you need help ask me :)
when you see me online on ICQ I will be there so just knock ;)

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

danny you're the best. i agree i think i'll be better off with stripboard. better yet, i think this would be best done with a solderless breadboard, would that work in this case? the components would still be the same? but out of curiousity, what is required for PCB making? etching? you have all this expensive equipement or you send off for a company to make it?

i'm new at this. i'm studying electrcial engineering right now and am taking my first real engineering class now, logic design. we use a solderless breadboard and make circuits using AND, NAND, OR, NOR, multiplexers, J-K Flip-flops, etc. i know that stuff well, but this is different. plus i have a solderless breadboard i was required to buy for this course and want to put it to use and make my prodigy clone on it if its feasible.

by the way, once the pic18f452 and 24lc256 eeprom is programmed, can i also use a solderless breadboard for the prodigy clone that i will put them on? or is PCB recommended? and i can flash the newer 3650/6600/etc phones with it, is this true?

oh and i found this one ebay too: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3809997488&category=4661&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBBI%3AIT&rd=1

i think it might make a better JDM programmer because the wires are "free" so i can just place them on a solderless breadboard onto which i'll put the 40-pin pic18f452. and i can do the same for the eeprom? or how do i program that? does it also have pins? am i thinking correctly here? and i can use this ebay programmer with IC-Prog, correct? i hear good things about that software and want to use it for my project, but i'm open for suggestions if something else is recommended.

i'm sorry if i'm threadjacking or asking too many silly questions, but i really want to learn. if i'm interrupting your discussion, i can start a new thread on my n00b questions! :-P

thank you again for your help and patience with me.

BTW: to make myself somewhat useful, i know a bit about flashing/unlocking Sony Ericsson phones via the terminator dongle and DIV method. so feel free to ask me any questions on that and i'd be happy to try and answer! :)

[kootp]

This is my DIY box

HERE (http://nokiafree.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12293&stc=1)

Regards
KOOTP

[danwood76]

That ebay item you have just posted is another JDM programmer so yes it can be used with ICprog

out of interest I built my own JDM programmer which is now broken :( I was planning on changing the serial numbers etc of my box and then try to upgrade it ;)

It would be possible to build this prodigy on breadboard as you can prototype anything on one :)
you can programme the PIC once it is in place so once you have built your prodigy
I would reccomend that if you are planning to use this a lot you may want to transfer it from breadboard to stripboard if you look at koopt's last post he has built his on stripboard ;)

About etching, at my college and my old school we used photosensetive board which had some sort of etchresist that was sensetive to light when you placed a transparancy of the PCB you planed to make on your board and on the UV box you would expose the etch resist to light in all places you didnt want copper you then place the board into some exposing fluid which changed the photosensetive stuff into plain black etchresist you then stick the board in a bubble etcher which removes the unwanted copper
you then clean the board and are ready to solder.

but the bubble etching tanks and chemicals can cost some serious $$ I do mine at college where it is all paid for ;)

BTW this is not really thread jacking as most of us finished our prodigys a while ago
also if you read bahaafaza post he has flashed a 3650 with his prodigy :-D

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

kootp, very nice box!

danny, i'll be prototyping it on breadboard first. this way, as i know i'll screw up somewhere, i can asily fix it and not have to re and un solder. once i can verify my breadboard can actually flash phones, i'll make it more permanent by making it with stripboard.

i heard of that method for PCB making, i asked my professor about it yesterday. i also have the means to do it at my university as well, but i only have 2 weeks left in the semester and have finals, so right now i'm just ordering components.

i feel so much better about this whole thing, i can follow the schems better now, so thank you for clarifying everything.

oh, as for getting cables and the crystal, which sites do you guys recommend for this. i obviously can't mkae my own crystal :D , but perhaps cables can be made? although i think the adapter would give me trouble. i'd most probably be using griffin cables for this with the RJ45 connector, right? and from what i understand, you schem is modified to support this. which also brings up the question of where to order the RJ45 female connector for the box.

[Forhike]

punkserb:

hello!

you can find components on
* www.elfa.se
* www.farnell.com

and free eeprom and pic at
*www.microchip.com

hope that you find what you are loocking for !!!

[punkserb]

thank you forhike. i already ordered the 24LC256-I/P, PIC18F452-I/P, TC1267VETTR, and TC1185-4.0VCT713 all for free from microchip! yay! 8-)

now i need to find out where to order the connect for the RJ45 and the parallel port. i found an RJ45 connector on the elfa website, but do i need it for angled PCB or panel or what? i plan to use it on a breadboard.

also, are the TC1267VETTR and TC1185-4.0VCT713 just voltage converters? i heard you guys also talking about LM317T, is this needed as well? and for the power, it says 9-15v, so a 9V battery is good? i would prefer USB power, but how is this done?

and i just read an eralier post by danny saying the PIC18F452-I/P is not the correct chip but might work anyway? i guess i'll try it and if nothing i'll have to get the other one.

[danwood76]

The PIC18LF452 I/P is a lower powered version of the 18F452 it consumes less power and works on a lower voltage ;) they cn be ordered from microchip aswell

The LM317 is a voltage regulator which I used twice in my design to convert the voltage from the 15v supply I was using to give both the 4.0v and the 3.3v
I ended up using these because 1 they are very flexable as you can change the voltage to whatever just by changing a resistor and 2 the ones I got off microchip were the wrong types as the sent me SOP insteap of PDIPs :(

USB power may not give you enough power as mine didnt I ended up using a DC power supply for my scanner which gives me out about 14 - 16v depending on what it feels like ;)

These are what you need,
RJ45:
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/catalog/viewproductdetails.jsp;jsessionid=4QX1ZA0MHQJ2VQFIAEXCFE4AVAAS2IV3?prodId=152857
crystal:
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/catalog/viewproductdetails.jsp;jsessionid=4QX1ZA0MHQJ2VQFIAEXCFE4AVAAS2IV3?prodId=493030
DB25 printer port connector:
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/catalog/viewproductdetails.jsp;jsessionid=4QX1ZA0MHQJ2VQFIAEXCFE4AVAAS2IV3?prodId=147971

these are all on farnell they deliver all over the world so go to www.farnell.com ;)
also I would advise you to put your PICs and Eeproms in dual in line chip sockets to protect the pins of the chips

[punkserb]

excellent! i'm in chicago, usa, so i doubt i can order from farnell, didn't see an american version of the site, but now that i know what the components look like i'll be fine, and i can find them elsewhere.

as for the scanner voltage you're using, just use 14-16v, it doesn't matter what the amperage on it is? and how can i make sure i don't get the wrong kind of lm317t? will they say it in description? the SOP (wrong) and PDIP (right) are the only two types?

instead of LM317, i saw someone else on the trhead recommend this: http://www.microchip.com/1010/pline/analog/anicateg/power/linereg/tc1xxx/tc1267/index.htm
and ordered that for the 3.3v and this: http://www.microchip.com/1010/pline/analog/anicateg/power/linereg/tc1xxx/tc1185/index.htm for the 4.0v.

i ordered that one from microchip for the 3.3v and and other similar one (i think), only it does 4v instead of 3.3. so now i can have both 3.3v and 4v using those two components. problem is, it looks like the power i put in may have to be exactly 5v and isn't as versatile as the LM317 you're using, but it doesn't require extra resistors for setting the ouput voltage, so there's ups and downs i guess. i think i can find a decent 5v source though (USB i think will work in this case, no?), but does the amperage of it matter a lot? or will it convert that too?

using USB to power this would be very nice i think. oh i'm soexcited, i won the auction for the JDM programmer, the microchip components are on the way, now i need the crystal, RJ45 and 25-pin parallel adapters. not to mention a bunch of resistors and a few capacitors, right? btw, i'm building according to the schematic danny made, which is attached to this post. it was showing a pic18f452-I/P which is why i ordered that one.

i have never heard of chip sockets. i looked for them on good and farnell ut found nothing. since i'm just putting these in a breadboard, i don't think there will be too much damage to them..? but i don't want anything happening to my preciiioous chips, so if you can tell me where to get sockets i'd appreciate it!

thank you again for all your help, i hope you guys don't find me too annoying with all my pestering questions.

[danwood76]

on http://uk.farnell.com/ they do ship to the US its just the site is uk based
I'm not sure how much the postage is though

The chip you ordered for your 4.0v is an SOP type which is an SMD style device which is very very small and cant be used easily with standard size electronics

The LM317 only comes in different package types and the different packages can handles different amounts of power
The LM317t can handle up to 1.5 amps which is perfect for phone power
The LM317lz can handle up to 500mA I think which is perfect for low power PICs

I would suggest using these as they are the easiest to set up all the resistor values needed and the transistor type is all in my PCB if you look on the overlay ;)

As I said before I wouldn't reccomend the USB as power supply for the Prodigy as it may not give you enough power you can use any DC power supply with the LM317 as long as it doesnt exceed 30v I think


i'm building according to the schematic danny made,

Aii, it is not my scheme unfortunatley made by someone on that little forum ;)
I could draw you one if you want, including the LM317 power supply

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

ok, so i should in that case order two LM317t's? if the LM317lz can only handle up to 500mA, it will limit the number of DC adapters I can use on the circuit, no? most of the ones i see in my house are pushing no less than 800mA. good thing that that wrong one i ordered is free :D

Danny, i appreciate your offer for drawing another schem very much, but i can imagine you are also very busy and i don't want to be a bother. so if you could just tell me whether the schems i'm talking about below will work, i would greatly appreciate it.

i'm doing everything according to the schem that was in your file that you posted called "my prodigy.zip" can i use that schem that i attached earlier, but not its power supply at the bottom? instead, i will use this power supply that will be attached to this message. only question i have is, it has two LM317's on there, one being IC1 and the other IC3. so should i use an LM317t for IC1 because that is where the main pwer will be going into. this will give me a better choice of adapters of up to 1.5A like you said. and then for the IC3, i can use an LM317lz since the inputs to it look resisted more and will not exceed 500mA, correct? or should i use an LM317t for the IC3 as well?

and that schem i posed earlier called "prodigy.GIF" will be alright for the main part? or do you recommend me getting a PIC18LF452-I/P in place of the PIC18F452-I/P that i have ordered? you said it works on lower voltage, so perhaps the 4 and 3.3v that i will be outputting with the power supply will not be enough for it?

[danwood76]

Danny,......., but i can imagine you are also very busy i will use this power supply that will be attached to this message.

Well, yes I am very busy :)
And at the moment there is a problem with picture attachments best way is to zip them first and then upload ;)

About the power supply:
The LM317t that is in my prodigy is used to power the phone there is a transistor on there which is the BC547 but I think the 2n2222 will do as an equivelant, this acts as a shutdown on the phones supply so that the prodigy can switch it off

I will try to explain something about power :)
have you ever studied ohms laws?? (you should have)

basically power = volts x amps
so a DC supply of 15v at 800 mA = 15*0.8= 12watt
so you can run 12 watts from this supply

now look at max powers of the LM317s I used
4v at 1.5 amps = 4*1.5 = 6 watts
3.3 at 0.5 amps = 3.3*0.5= 1.62 watts
total = 7.62 watts which is no-where near the 12 that my DC supply can produce so this will work perfectly ;)

About the PIC18LF452 it is best to use a low power version I mean it will still be free off microchip ;)

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

hehe, i thought ohm's law was R = I/V, R being resistance, I beign current, and V being voltage, but yea i understand the wattage relationship too, thanks.

by the way the pictures i was referring to earlier are now attached in the zip file. so the IC that is hooked up the transistor is an LM317, and the other one is as well. those are shown as IC1 and IC3 in the "power supply prod.gif" in the zip file. so the first one, IC1 should be an LM317t and other should be an LM317lz, or can they both be LM317t's? and i see what you mean about the shutdown, after the transistor, it is resisted by 1k ohms and then goes to pin 9 of the pic18F452, the shutdown. it makes sense.

i'll order another microcontroller, this time the pic18LF452, but i'll have to buy it because you can only get a sample every 30 days. microchip isn't stupid ;) i may as well then get all the resistors for the power suply and main board i need as well as the BC547 transistor so i don't have to pay for seperate shipping. i just need to know which LM317's to order for the power supply.

and my earlier question, if i build the box according to the two pictures in the zip i just poseted it will be fine? i'll substitute the power supply with the LM's instead of the one at the bottom of "prodigy.gif" and i'll also replace the pic18F452 with the pic18LF452. with these modifications, do you predict success? :D

by the way, i appreciate all of the help you are giving me even though you are busy and everything. i will have a lot of time this summer, and if you guys so desire, i can write up a huge and very easy to follow tutorial on building all this from scratch. seeing as i am (or rather was, thanks to danny ;) ) a complete noob to all this, i think it will be easy for me to explain the necessary procedures, once i confirm the completion of the box and that its functioning properly. if you guys want me to do this, please tell me. it would be my pleasure as some kind of repayment for all the help i've gotten here on this project!

[EdgeCrusher]

Yeah I'd like it! because i really don't have the necessary amount of time to read the hundred posts on this, and follow up of the updates is really difficult for me.

A step-by-step would be excellent, with the definitive schematics, list of components, programs needed (IC-prog, hex files, etc etc), including also link or a helo to find the flash on the net... would be excellent punkserb!

I think that also, it should be posted in some other section... a step by step zipped would be really nice.

Edge

[punkserb]

yes, i can do this, i'd love to. i just want to make sure all the others who are helping me with this would approve. and of course, i would mention you guys and give you credit for all the information i would write, especially you danny.

if you guys approve of this, i'll get started on a tutorial as soon as i finish my finals on may 7th, and it'll be complete and avaialbe to all when i make sure that the instructions work and that the box functions as it should.

[EdgeCrusher]

When you say "approval", you mean that you're waiting for the moderators? I think that if you do it, and it's ok, they won't have any problem to upload the how-to...

But, that's my opinion. If you need any help, in anything, I'll be glad if i can be of any help in this.

Edge

[punkserb]

its no problem, ic oudl even host it on my own FTP if need be, its just that they put a lot of work and thought into this. maybe they don't want every single person on the internet to just be able to "leech" from their hard work.

i also hope they don't have a problem with it, especially since this is a public forum and all the information is here, but i'd still rather make sure its alright out of respect for them for all their help, especially taking the time to answer all my many many seemingly endless question! :D

if they're ok with it, you can expect a tutorial in mid-may, assuming i get all my parts in correctly and everything works as it should.

[danwood76]

When you say "approval", you mean that you're waiting for the moderators?

I dont think he is waiting for moderators approval as I am a mod :p hehe
I think he means that most of us in this thread have put in a lot of work to build this and people may not want their work distributed freely :)

You can use mine but dont change what is in my zip file please

About the LM317s :D
IC1 should be an LM317t and the other should be LM317lz
the reason for the lz is that the LM317t disipates all the extra energy that flows through as heat so if you are making 5v out with 15v in then it is loosing 10v as heat
the LM317lz doesnt need a heat sink and doesnt get very hot
BTW there is not need to use a heat sink in this project as it doesnt really produce much ;)

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

ok, well then it seems i have your approval, and i will make the tutorial. i know it was difficult for me to look through many many many threads on the topic. last night i read all 60 pages of this same topic only at the GSMforum. difficult, but very interesting. i will create my own zip file into which i will put all the hexes, schems, parts needed, prodigy program itself, IC-prog 1.05c, and the word tutorial that i will make. i'll be taking pictures with my digicam as i'm assembling my box so it'll be nice to have visuals. i will of course give many thanks and mention all the people who made the schems, component lists, etc.

ok, thanks for the LM317's, that's how i thought it should be. and out will come 4v (VccPh) from the LM317t and 3.3v (VCC) from the LM317lz. alright, now to just wait for all my parts to get in, i can study for finals, and hopefully in two weeks my box will be complete! thank you so much!!! :)

[danwood76]

I would only put the working hex's in your file
they are posted below ;)

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

oh yea, the new hex for eeprom and pic, i have those. but i will test them also to make sure it is the right ones.

btw, with the way your power supply is set up with the 2 LM317's, will they be enough to power a pic18f452, or will i need the lf452?

[danwood76]

I would go with the 18LF452 as it is what the original prodigy's use
also the eeprom needs to be the 24LC256

regards,
Danny

[adi]

Please any who allready has WinTesla flash loaders,which is somme TIA and FIA files located in folder c:\Wintesla\fls1sup, and which is required for flashing DCT-3 phones with Prodigy software, to zip folder fls1sup and add this file in replay.I think that this can be usefull for many peoples ho has'nt WinTesla full installation pack!!!
Thank's

[punkserb]

thanks, i already ordered the 24LC256. the 18F452 is also coming, and i'll try it out. if it doesn't work, i'll get an 18LF452.

and i'll be getting all my other stuff (capacitors, BC547 transistor, crystal, resistors, etc) from mouser.com since they are in USA and will save me a lot of time and money for shipping. but is see different "load capacity" on crystals. the one you linked to from farnell had 30pF but the one's i'm seeing on mouser are 18 or 20 and even 10. does this matter? also, i'm ordering HC-49/U, not SMD! :D

[punkserb]

danny and the rest of you guys looking to update! you may already know this, but there was a test hex released for the 1.65 firmware version of the prodigy for the pic chip. i attached it below in a zip file if you guys wanna try it out.

from the gsm-forum:

"Originally Posted by vladmoto
How can I upgrade from ^ that version to 00.00.00.99 so i can ultimatley upgrade to 1.00....5 and upgrade again? Where can i find the 00.00.00.99 version? HEEEEEEEEEEEELP! Please!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

rename this .txt to .hex

Ps: Firmware version changed to 1.05 working with prodigy software 615 but for direct unlock u must use version 5.00"




so there you have it. i know the "original" prodigy box by bluelights is already at 7.30, but i have yet to even hear of the hex for that, let alone find it myself. but supposedly this 6.15 does work with raskal's version of 6.15, at least for flashing it seems.

if this is old news, please just ignore this post by silly me! :lol:

[danwood76]

Thanks I will try this out later
and compare it to the old hex

regards,
Danny

[gip_mad]

punkserb, i was going to made a tutorial similar to the one you are going to make, we can do it together... anyway, i'm studying the same things at school, but since God gave me a father expert in electronic, i'm working with these things since i went out of my mom! :-P
c ya

[danwood76]

I had a look at the hex file
and it is a fake :(

It is simply a version 00.00.00.99 with the version number changed to 00.00.01.05

but it may be enough to upgrade with the patcher
I will test it ;)

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

danny, thanks for checkign it out. i don't know the difference between 5.00 and 6.15. unless it supports new phones, i don't think i care too much for the "upgrade."

and gip_mad: my father is also electrical engineer. its just stupid me never got into the stuff until now! :lol:
i'm most interested in phones, i'm only studdying EE to go into telecommunications. i would love to work on the tutorial with you! my ICQ is 81537081 soo feel free to message me. or email me: punkserb(at)yahoo.com

we'll make the best tutorial ever! 8-)

[danwood76]

The main difference between the 0.99 and the 1.05 is the fact that the later one can rebuild IMEIs and obviously the earlier cant!

I need to re-make my JDM as it wont proram again :(
I will try updating when I get it work

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

hhmmm rebuild IMEI, what does this do? i probably won't need it, right?

i also bought most of my parts today, all the capacitors, resistors, etc. 1/4w resistors should be fine, right? and for capacitors, i just got the ones i thought were good, like 16v, is that ok too? ah well, i'll just test it out. i can't wait for the PIC programmer and PIC18F452, PIC18LF452, and 2LC256 to come in!!! it seems like forever. plus gotta find a place that stocks the female RJ45 connector and LM317's....a lot of work to do with this box, and i'm just gathering parts.

i think i'm going to be banned from the forum once i actually start making it and programming the PIC and EEPROM and all that! :lol:

[danwood76]

Why would you be banned??
this is nokiaFREE ;)

1/4 watts are fine ;)

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

hehe, i'm just afraid to get annoying, but don't worry. i will learn a lot so next time there's a box, i'll be helping you build it! ;)

and since you like this stuff danny, there's also been schem and hex posted for a sagem unlocker. there are almost no sagem phones in the US, so i don't need it much, nor do i have any phones to test it with, but you might be interested.

[danwood76]

hehe, i'm just afraid to get annoying, but don't worry.

All I can say is, I am am one of teh mods who do the banning round here and I dont think you have anything to worry about :)
Mind you DCT4 is not my section of the forum mine is DCT3 :D

About the Caps

I would use 50v for both the ceramic and the electrolytic, basically I think it is 1) Safer to use higher voltage caps and 2) they are the same price as lower voltage ones ;)

And you probably will only be able to get 22pf or 27pf not 24pf

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

aww crap, i bought the 16vdc 100MFD cap yesterdsay....i think it should be fine. unless there's a chance of frying the circuit with it, i'll just try it out. if it doesn't work, i'll get another one.

and yea, i got the 22pF, i heard they would work. andything from 22-27 will work.

all i'm missing now is the RJ45 female connector and the LM317lz, i got the t already. and i'm waiting for microchip to ship my samples....taking so long!

btw, when i asked for the BC547 transistor, he gave me an NTE123AP. i went home on google and checked it, but it doesn't seem like they are equivalent. any insight on this?

EDIT: nevermind, i saw a post on a board: http://qrp.kd4ab.org/1997/971031/0009.html that gives NT123AP. BC547 is one of them! :smile:

btw, did you try the hex i posted? hope you get your JDM up to speed.

[danwood76]

The first Cap in my circuit is only to smooth out any voltage spikes in the supply voltage :)

So it should be fine

BTW
You can use the LM317t instead of the lz

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

no way, so two lm317t's would work just as well as one t and one lz!?! time to go back to the store in that case! and while i'm there i guess i'll just pick up another 100mF cap, this time in 50VDC, don't want any spikes destroying my box!

thanks again danny, you're the best!

[kello]

Thanks for the information. Im going to try to build this, and I'll report back to you the results. I have some questions, however.

In the text file included the PIC is reffered to as PIC18F452, and in the schematic it is PIC16F???. Is it 18 or 16? What is the proper value of C1?


I challenge others to build this and see what happens.
thank u !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 :-D :-D :-D :-D

[gip_mad]

no way, so two lm317t's would work just as well as one t and one lz!?! time to go back to the store in that case! and while i'm there i guess i'll just pick up another 100mF cap, this time in 50VDC, don't want any spikes destroying my box!

thanks again danny, you're the best!

all lm317 will work, the only difference between them is the suplly current, but since this circuit will not eat more than 100 mA.... the voltage written on caps are only the maximum voltage they can support, then, after 10-15% more, they can explode. so, there is NO difference if you use a 15v cap or a 100000v cap in a circuit that works with max 9v... For the IC, I tell you a thing that maybe will help you some day: the t and lz are only appendix that means that ics are a variant of the base(lm317 in this case). they will do the same work, but have some differences, in this case about the max current supplied.


don't want any spikes destroying my box!

no spikes are going to destroy your box... anyway, if you are so scared about that spikes, it is better to put a 100pF polyester cap in parallel ot the electrolytic cap. the electrolytic will level voltage on "low" peaks, the polyester will try to absorb high peaks...

[danwood76]

I have started to upload all th required files and lso pictures of home made prodigies to my webspace check this:

http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

thank you guys for the explanation I will use 2 LM317t's in that case, but i'm just wondering, what changes will i have to make to danny's schematic (this one: http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/prodigy/images/prodigy.gif if i use an LM317t as IC3 instead on LM317lz? will the resistor values just need to be different? or even no change?

my thinking dictates this: they are both moving off the same power supply (let's say 14V DC in my case). so all i would need to do is look up the LM317t datasheet and see which resistors to use to get 3.3V for VCC and just use danny's first one to get the 4V for the VccPh.

btw, i'm seeing the adapters i have in my house with different amperages, what value is recommended for the power supply? would 12V DC with 1A be ok?

update! just checked my mail and my JDM programmer is in!!! now i just need the chips from microchip...they're taking a while. i heard it takes about a week but its been more than that so far.... :-?

[danwood76]

@ Punkserb

all lm317 will work
as he said all LM317 are the same and so you dont need to change any resistors

that power supply will work fine
remember my calculations earlier ;)

@ All

I would love to put pictures of your home made prodigy's on my site
please post them here in a .zip file or PM me your e-mail details

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

perfect! i'll be testing both Vcc's of the PS with a voltmeter anyway though before letting them even touch the PIC. so i'll just modify if needed. hopefully microchip will send me the 18LF that is better, but in case i just get the 18F i'll modify one of the LM's to put out 4.5 or 5v to power it. since it requires 4.2 - 5.5v. but i like the bigger 2 - 5.5v range of the 18LF much better. either way i think i'll be fine.

and danny, i'd love to send you the pics when its finally working! also if geocities runs out of space or something, i can host that site on my FTP if you want.

danny, i understand your calculations but don't understand the amperage for the PICs. is there a way that if there is too much current going into them that it won't work or could fry them? i checked the data sheet and can't find much on wattage or amperage. the Cout (current output) of the LM317t is limited to 1.5A. this seems like a lot to me. i'm a little confused...since power = potential * current in watts, then how many watts does the PIC require?

[danwood76]

is there a way that if there is too much current going into them that it won't work or could fry them?

No
They wont fry, the PIC and eeprom will not pull more current than they can consume
and you have the LM317s they will cut out any suppen rushes of power ;)

it will be fine dont worry :)

regards,
Danny

BTW
About my site :)
Thanks for the offer but it is only a small site and I have loads of space left ;)

[punkserb]

ok, then i have nothing to worry about! :-P but if you don't want banners/ads on the site let me know. or if you just want to host large files.

also got some Q's on the JDM programmer if you don't mind.
the JDM i got has 5 outputs:

1: VPP
2: VDD (+5v)
3: VSS (GND)
4: PGD
5: PGC
6: PGM

so, to program the F452, i put VPP to pin 1. VDD to pin 11. VSS to pin 12. PGD to pin 40. PGC to pin 39. and on pin 36, I ground it to a 10k resistor. is all this correct? and in this case, which ground do I use? the one from from the JDM, the VSS?

and then for programming the EEPROM 24LC256 with the JDM...i have no idea! :-? can I do VSS to pins 1-4 and pin 7. then VDD to pin 8, then ....damn i'm lost with this one...:(


btw, i have this JDM programmer: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3809997488&category=4661&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWN%3AIT&rd=1

[danwood76]

@Adi

I have uploaded DCT3 flash loaders to my download area in the prodigy section :)

@punkseb

I have attached PIN diagrams for the PIC and EEPROM taken from the microchip datasheets I have ;)

Here are the PIC pin connections:

1: VPP - Pin 1
2: VDD (+5v) - Pins 11 + 32
3: VSS (GND) - Pins 12 + 31
4: PGD - Pin 40
5: PGC - Pin 39
6: PGM - Not Connected

PGM Pin 38 needs a 10K resistor to Ground

Here are the EEPROM conections:

1: VPP - NC
2: VDD (+5v) - Pin 1
3: VSS (GND) - Pin 8
4: PGD - Pins 5 + 7
5: PGC - Pin 6
6: PGM - NC

Could you upload the prodigy software to your FTP and give me a link?
thanks,
Danny

[punkserb]

thank you thank you danny!!! i was staring at the datasheets and somehow figured out the 18F, but i couldn't get the EEPROM. what confused me was them mentioning RB6 and RB7 and i didn't know which ones those were on my JDM. thank you though.

for most of the files that i have about prodigy, go here: http://nemik.fileburst.com/prodigy

[punkserb]

danny, congratulations on your free gift from the prodigy team! :) you deserve it for helping everyone out so much!

[danwood76]

congratulations on your free gift from the prodigy team! :)

Yeah its a great gift apart from none of the update stuff works yet :(
only one person managed to get the hex files to work and he is using a different type of programmer to everyone else :(

hopefully the team will sort out these problems soon

But meanwhile here is an official release of the 1.05 hex ;)
hope you all like

(rename this file to .hex instead of .hex.txt ;))

regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

no way!!! danny you are amazing! people have been looking all over for the 1.05 hex! is this the one prodigy team sent you? the one you can't get to work? wow, so many questions, and yet to get my chips ;)

thank you very much for sharing this and i hope you find the files i uploaded useful.

[adi]

Yeah its a great gift apart from none of the update stuff works yet :(
only one person managed to get the hex files to work and he is using a different type of programmer to everyone else :(

hopefully the team will sort out these problems soon

But meanwhile here is an official release of the 1.05 hex ;)
hope you all like

(rename this file to .hex instead of .hex.txt ;))

regards,
Danny

Wich software this hex support Prodigy500 or higher???Does this HEX finally fix flashing problems,do You Danny tested this?
Thanks

[Forhike]

Yeah its a great gift apart from none of the update stuff works yet :(
only one person managed to get the hex files to work and he is using a different type of programmer to everyone else :(

hopefully the team will sort out these problems soon

But meanwhile here is an official release of the 1.05 hex ;)
hope you all like

(rename this file to .hex instead of .hex.txt ;))

regards,
Danny

eyy! do i still have to contact prodigy team and pay them for the the activation code? or is this hex 100% working just write it to the pic and be happy?

my pcb is finaly ready, i have checked it many times, got to be working now =p but heh the pcb manufactor is still lazy, did talk to him yesterday, he haven't had time to make it yet =/

[danwood76]

Hehe :D

This hex is working with sw version 615 so you can also use UEM tools etc.
the hex file I posted will NOT work with the activation patch

We are currently waiting for another release of the file that works with IC prog so we can activate our box's

also there is another eeprom file I cannot post it as I dont have it here :(
regards,
Danny

[punkserb]

danny i have both of those files you're talking about. new pic hex fixed for 1.05c and the new eeprom. i'm at my university now, so i'll post them when i get home. however a lot of people are having trouble with them....

and since 6.15 works, what's the point of the activatio patch?

[punkserb]

ok try these in the zip i just posted.

[khalid1210]

How Too program the pic with ponyprog??

[adi]

Hehe :D

This hex is working with sw version 615 so you can also use UEM tools etc.
the hex file I posted will NOT work with the activation patch

We are currently waiting for another release of the file that works with IC prog so we can activate our box's

also there is another eeprom file I cannot post it as I dont have it here :(
regards,
Danny

I programmed PIC with this hex file,and prodigy 615 detect dongle,but I sttil not tested it as I havn't any DCT4 phone. You mentioned sommething about new eeprom file,does it meen that prodigy will not work well with old eeprom file ,I'm specially inteested for flashing option.
Also,I dowloaded DCT3 TIA files and make folder C:\WINTESLA\fls1sup but when I tried to flash 3310 Prodigy put out somme error like Tx pin remain low or high.By the way,I dont have Wintesla instaled on my machine,does it need it?Wnere i'm wrong.
Thank's

[khalid1210]

I Need a Manual for programing with ponyprog :-?

[punkserb]

I programmed PIC with this hex file,and prodigy 615 detect dongle,but I sttil not tested it as I havn't any DCT4 phone. You mentioned sommething about new eeprom file,does it meen that prodigy will not work well with old eeprom file ,I'm specially inteested for flashing option.
Also,I dowloaded DCT3 TIA files and make folder C:\WINTESLA\fls1sup but when I tried to flash 3310 Prodigy put out somme error like Tx pin remain low or high.By the way,I dont have Wintesla instaled on my machine,does it need it?Wnere i'm wrong.
Thank's


yea the Tx is high if i recall correctly is usually the error message people get when their EEPROM isn't programed, or is that the MSID - 126 error? :-? hhmmmmm either way, i do believe that you cannot use the old hex for this. try the one that is in the zip file i posted. can't wait to try all this out myself!!!

[CkCGSM]

Yeah its a great gift apart from none of the update stuff works yet :(
only one person managed to get the hex files to work and he is using a different type of programmer to everyone else :(

hopefully the team will sort out these problems soon

But meanwhile here is an official release of the 1.05 hex ;)
hope you all like

(rename this file to .hex instead of .hex.txt ;))

regards,
Danny


This hex it's not working with unlock neither uem tools it's just the edited hex from activation pack.

[adi]

Yeah its a great gift apart from none of the update stuff works yet :(
only one person managed to get the hex files to work and he is using a different type of programmer to everyone else :(

hopefully the team will sort out these problems soon

But meanwhile here is an official release of the 1.05 hex ;)
hope you all like

(rename this file to .hex instead of .hex.txt ;))

regards,
Danny

Do You tested this HEX file, somme peoples tell that this hex dont work even for unlock and UEM tools function.
Thanks
P.S. Do You have somme kind of troubleshooting with Prodigy dongle,or error explainations

[sigma]

hey can someone please take 5min to help me out here i've been reading over the old posts and i wanna build a prodigy box but i'm now completly lost between version numbers and additions and changes to pcb layouts etc so can someone please tell me wha layout to use wha schmatic works with it which chips to use and what versions of wha hex/eprom etc to use and one thats been tested as i don't have all that much cash please as i really wanna build one time permitting with college but i'm totally lost
thanks

[Brlocky]

Hello all :D

I'am using a 16fxxx programmer that have the same pinout like 18f452

1 - vdd
2 - rb6
3 - rb7
4 - mclr
5 - vss

my probleam is that i can read, but i can't write or erase

any body now anything about this ?? :-o

thanks


Brlocky :D

[jnf]

Hi!

I'm having troubles with prodigy:(
I have built dan's prodigy, but prodigy software doesn't recognize the box.

Is there some trick or what's wrong? Prodigy software only finds com ports, not LPT(gray colour in LPT connections)?

I have checked hardware few times, but doesn't work. What is the right way to connect the box? First LPT=>power=>program=>phone?

What else?

Best regards
-jnf

[jnf]

Now it works, but still some problems. Prodigy loses connection to the phone regularly...should i use regulated power supply?

-jnf

[punkserb]

regulated? you mean to the box? i think you should. i'm building mine like danny advised, with LM317t's. this way it will convert any AC adpatre up to 37V to the voltage that the pic and eeprom need.

btw, i'm having some problems programming th pic. made all the correct pinouts, set IC-prog delay to 1, grounded pin 38, but i always get failed at address 000000h. i checked volatges, i have 5 V between VCC and GND, but between VPP and GND it is fluctuating between -0.2 and 0.8. adi said this should be 12V, do i have a faulty JDM programmer then?

[adi]

Does You peoples ho already have Prodigy maked with old HEX 0.99, test this one new with ser.no. 1.05 and new Prodigy 615 software.I'm specially interested for flashing function.Also, somebody tolk about that even direct unlock don't work with this new HEX file.Thoes it thrue???

[danwood76]

@punkserb

the VPP of the programmer will only be 12v during programming so click on read all and then check the voltage

also the delay index should be 10 this is the only setting that seems to work every time

@ Adi

if you go to the prodigy website www.prodigybox.com then there is a description of all the errors on there
it is quite helpful ;)

@ Sigma

go: http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected] and click my prodigy it is all there ;)

@ All

I am sorry it turns out that hex file is only really for upgrading your prodigy not actually flashing etc.
I built my latest board now and it works 100% ;)
I will upload some pictures soon

I havent been online much lately as my PC decided it would die
luckily its under warranty and is being fixed this week :)

regards,
Danny

[adi]

I suggest to all peoples ho has flashing problems with Prodigy Box 105, that this Box require strong power supply with hy output current up to 1000mA.I never flashed any DCT4 phones until replaced power adapter,and I've been confused that is one simple reason for many Prodigy errors.By the way, You must use fixed HEX file for PIC and new eeprom BIN file - this work.Also on the power part of PCB I added block capacitors of 100nF for output voltage Vph and Vcc (for PIC)

[danwood76]

I have now moved away from the geocities domain to a new one ;)

http://danwood76.t35.com/

regards,
Danny

[EdgeCrusher]

What happened with the step by step doc? i remember that punkserb said, very gently, that he would do a step by step document to do the clone. Will it finally be done? I was expecting a lot for it!

Thanks in advance gentlemen

Edge

ps: I know this sounds very greedy, because, well, a lot of people collaborated to do this, and it's kinda "now give me all that costed you so much". That is not the intention, and please don't read it like that. It's just that I get lost with all the post, and posts, and problem, and files uploaded, and improved drawings... i get lost along the thread, and i just wanted to know if somebody was willing to do something like a review of all this info.
If somebody interprets this as a "give me info for free" post, please accept my apologizes. That's not the intention... in fact, the intention is that finally people (including me), can do the box!

again, thanks in advance

[adi]

I have standard flash cables for old Dejan DCT3 flasher and there is only this pins: Tx,Rx,GND,Vpp and Mbus and You must use phone battery with them.I want to modify this standard cable so that it can be usefull for Prodigy Box, so I wonder if BSI pin must be connected (with somme resistor between BSI and GND)and with power supply from Prodigy insteed phone battery???
Does original Griffin cables for DCT3 has this pins also ( BSI,Btemp,Vbat)?
Thank's

[arajah]

Does You peoples ho already have Prodigy maked with old HEX 0.99, test this one new with ser.no. 1.05 and new Prodigy 615 software.I'm specially interested for flashing function.Also, somebody tolk about that even direct unlock don't work with this new HEX file.Thoes it thrue???
i have above mentionned prodigy, i desperately tried to update it to using uem tool
please advise

[danwood76]

@ Adi

If you want to use the old dct3 cables I think you can
when it starts flashing make sure phone is off, then when it starts press in the power buton as you would with the cheap dct3 flasher

regards,
Danny

[Cyahus2K]

hello danny is there any difference between 24lc256 and 24lc256 I/P since this 24lc256 I/P is the one available here in my country is it ok if i use it? :-? :-?

regards,
cyahus

[gip_mad]

hello danny is there any difference between 24lc256 and 24lc256 I/P since this 24lc256 I/P is the one available here in my country is it ok if i use it? :-? :-?

regards,
cyahus

You can find this kind of information on the datasheets. C'mon, pleeease... search before ask... i will reply anyway: Yes, it is the same.

[Vyrus_boy]

can i use this programmer (http://www.jdm.homepage.dk/newpics.htm ) to program PIC18LF452 and the 24LC256???
if yes. How i can do it?
tanks :-?

[Cyahus2K]

You can find this kind of information on the datasheets. C'mon, pleeease... search before ask... i will reply anyway: Yes, it is the same.

too bla..bla..bla ok thanx at least u reply..

[Cyahus2K]

i see sum finished box not used the ordinary tolerance of resistor is there a recommended tolerance for the resistors to be used?

[danwood76]

recommended tolerance for the resistors to be used?

I would recommend the 5% ones but they are the lowest type produced these days ;)

regards,
Danny

[Cyahus2K]

thanx danny...im just waiting my pic,eeprom and crystal from farnell.

[adi]

@punkserb

the VPP of the programmer will only be 12v during programming so click on read all and then check the voltage

also the delay index should be 10 this is the only setting that seems to work every time

@ Adi

if you go to the prodigy website www.prodigybox.com then there is a description of all the errors on there
it is quite helpful ;)

@ Sigma

go: http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected] and click my prodigy it is all there ;)

@ All

I am sorry it turns out that hex file is only really for upgrading your prodigy not actually flashing etc.
I built my latest board now and it works 100% ;)
I will upload some pictures soon

I havent been online much lately as my PC decided it would die
luckily its under warranty and is being fixed this week :)

regards,
Danny

I don't know do You have working HEX file 1.05 for Prodigy 615,and how to upgrade my dongle when I programmed my PIC with testing HEX 1.05 couse I dont have button upgrade dongle ,or with this HEX file dongle is allready activated.It seems that only 0.99 HEX and Prodigy 500 is working version for unlocking and flashing for now.But newest phones does not supported with Prodigy 500 such as Nokia 3100.
Thank's

[Cyahus2K]

now i have my pic from farnell .. :)

[bahaafaza]

danny did you have found any new hix file for prodigy or attempt to upgrade
it to accept the new phone as 6600
thanks

[Vyrus_boy]

where i can find new hex file???

[adi]

Does any have new HEX file for Prodigy Box, or has somme idea how to upgrade BOx for free

[Cyahus2K]

danny did you have found any new hix file for prodigy or attempt to upgrade
it to accept the new phone as 6600
thanks
u can used the hex fr. b-ph activation pack although not work on all function but can flashed 6600..

[adi]

I must notice that I have successfuly flashed a couple of Nokia 3100 with my Prodigy 500 and 0.99 HEX although this phones are not supported with it, You just have to set this phones in Full Factory Settings with Fbus Tool by Maestro or similar software after flashing with Prodigy500.This solution is worked for Nokia 6510i also.You may try this and You will see.

[ldicdican]

@adi,

could you post here the steps on how you flash the unsupported 3200 with Prodigy 500?

TIA :-)

[Cyahus2K]

I must notice that I have successfuly flashed a couple of Nokia 3200 with my Prodigy 500 and 0.99 HEX although this phones are not supported with it, You just have to set this phones in Full Factory Settings with Fbus Tool by Maestro or similar software after flashing with Prodigy500.This solution is worked for Nokia 6510i also.You may try this and You will see.

great info thanks :)

[adi]

@adi,

could you post here the steps on how you flash the unsupported 3200 with Prodigy 500?

TIA :-)

First You have to install special flash pack for this phone ,connect this phone to Prodigy,power off phone,click on Flash Button,select fields DCT4 and Manual and go to destination folder with flash packs,then clik Flash and wait until Prodigy flash MCU and PPM file to phone.
After this You need serial Fbus cable to set this phone to Full Factory and Fbus Tool by Maestro or similar software.you could find them on the net.
Regards

[ldicdican]

First You have to install special flash pack for this phone ,connect this phone to Prodigy,power off phone,click on Flash Button,select fields DCT4 and Manual and go to destination folder with flash packs,then clik Flash and wait until Prodigy flash MCU and PPM file to phone.
After this You need serial Fbus cable to set this phone to Full Factory and Fbus Tool by Maestro or similar software.you could find them on the net.
Regards

Thank you very much for your QUICK reply! :)
So we will just ignore if Prodigy 5.00 doesn't really recognize the attached(3200) phone by simply flashing it thru MANUAL mode, and set to Full Factory using another serial FBUS cable and Fbus tool softwares. Thanks again mate!

[adi]

Thank you very much for your QUICK reply! :)
So we will just ignore if Prodigy 5.00 doesn't really recognize the attached(3200) phone by simply flashing it thru MANUAL mode, and set to Full Factory using another serial FBUS cable and Fbus tool softwares. Thanks again mate!

Just right that!I tested this on Nokia 3100 and 6510i
Regards

[Cyahus2K]

First You have to install special flash pack for this phone ,connect this phone to Prodigy,power off phone,click on Flash Button,select fields DCT4 and Manual and go to destination folder with flash packs,then clik Flash and wait until Prodigy flash MCU and PPM file to phone.
After this You need serial Fbus cable to set this phone to Full Factory and Fbus Tool by Maestro or similar software.you could find them on the net.
Regards

@ adi any link for this special flash pack, i think i have only just ordinary winphoenix flash file...thanks

BR,
cyahus

[adi]

@ adi any link for this special flash pack, i think i have only just ordinary winphoenix flash file...thanks

BR,
cyahus

You're apsolutely right,it's Phoenix flash packs.Sorry if I made confusion about this word "special".

[adi]

On the official Prodigy site www.prodigybox.com is the offer for Clone activation after that it's become same as one original Prodigy Box.Does somebody make this or this is money wasting,couse price for this is 60 Euros for activation code,or where is the cheaper solution for Clone activation.
Thank's

[danwood76]

I have a fully activeated 'clone' (thanks bphreaks)
but I had one of the free ones

It is good as it allows you to update and use your clone just like a real box
you get all updates from that point too

regards,
Danny

[adi]

I have a fully activeated 'clone' (thanks bphreaks)
but I had one of the free ones

It is good as it allows you to update and use your clone just like a real box
you get all updates from that point too

regards,
Danny

If I understend You, You have Clone wich is working such as original without of any activation and payment.In that case would You please share with us HEX file for this and wich is the procedure to get all updates with that Clone Box so We'll be able to unlock and flash newest models such as 3200 etc.
Thank's

[danwood76]

Not so

Bphreak & Co gave away 10 activation codes to people who they thought had given a big contribution to all the others making clones

So I got given a code that let my activate in the same way everyone else did
the difference was that we didnt have to pay

Sorry the hex is code protected just like the official prodigy
infact the only bit that isnt supported is the actual hardware

The software etc is exactly like the original
you have valid serial etc.

regards,
Danny

[blacklisted]

@danwood

did you end up making new cables. I need cables can you recommend on how to go about.

or i had a max232 with rj45 socket and cable for dct3 will that work. if so i have 4 wires going into the socket rj45 how can i now which wire is which.

i will try to upload pic

[adi]

HEre is new HEX for Newest Prodigy1328.I tested this and work grate for all function.Soft You can download from www.prodigybox.com in their support Link.

[Vyrus_boy]

With this hex We will be able to unlock and flash newest models such as 6600 and 7610?

[bahaafaza]

hi all what the eeprom hix file that will be work in this new version of prodigy
and
is the format of the hix file the same format of the past version
thanks

[danwood76]

The Hex for the eeprom is the same no matter which version you use
I suggest using the eeprom hex from the activation pack as it is 100% working :)

regards,
Danny

[patata2002]

sorry but my english is very bad. I want to make my own prodigy for flash and rapair one 6600 and any nokia. With the schematics of this post can i repair this telefons? Have i go to buy any code or pass for this prodigy or for use the software?

Thanks

p.d: What schematics is better?

[danwood76]

I have a perfect Schematic somewhere which I havent posted up yet
I had to draw it for some of my college work

When I go to college tomorrow I will post it up for you

regards,
Danny

[gip_mad]

sorry but my english is very bad. I want to make my own prodigy for flash and rapair one 6600 and any nokia. With the schematics of this post can i repair this telefons? Have i go to buy any code or pass for this prodigy or for use the software?

Thanks

p.d: What schematics is better?

If you agree, I will reply to this in Italian....
Allora... Dipende da cosa è rotto. Se è un problema software, ok, ma se è un problema hardware (ti è caduto in acqua, per terra o robe del genere) con questo non risolvi niente. é come un compiuter: finchè spacchi windows, lo puoi reinstallare da zero, me se prendi a martellate la scheda madre ti tocca comprarla nuova!
Per la seconda domanda: no, non devi comprare niente, oltre ai componenti. Ti ricordo che il pic devi anche programmarlo, non basta che lo compri e lo cacci su.... E non ti spiegherò come fare se non lo sai, perchè è una cosa un po troppo complessa da trattare qui. Cerca con google cmq se ti interessa, è pieno di guide del genere. Ma se non sei proprio esperto in elettronica, ti conviene comprarne uno gia fatto, o andare da qualcuno che già ce l'ha.
Ciao

[danwood76]

Im Sorry I do not agree

We are an english speaking forum here
You are now speaking Me and many others do not understand

please repost in english,
Danny

[bahaafaza]

I download the new software of the prodigy box from the site www.prodigybox.com
that posted adi : Prodigy1328 and use the hix file that he had posted
my prodigy worked on dct3 nice but the error massage when I try to flash dct4 phone is :
Unable to init flashing mode!
any one can help me what is the problem

thanks

[ldicdican]

I download the new software of the prodigy box from the site www.prodigybox.com
that posted adi : Prodigy1328 and use the hix file that he had posted
my prodigy worked on dct3 nice but the error massage when I try to flash dct4 phone is :
Unable to init flashing mode!
any one can help me what is the problem

thanks

i also experience that when i use Prodigy 1347 software.
but when i use Prodigy Plus dec04 version, it solved the problem!
no more "Unable to init flashing mode" errors on dct4 flashing!

[jnf]

i also experience that when i use Prodigy 1347 software.
but when i use Prodigy Plus dec04 version, it solved the problem!
no more "Unable to init flashing mode" errors on dct4 flashing!

Hi! I have same "Unable to init flashing mode" error with v1328. All other functions working fine. Do you use Prodigy Plus version 2103 or 1347?

Is the version 1347 working with cloned prodigy(no need to change hex etc?)?.

[ldicdican]

Hi! I have same "Unable to init flashing mode" error with v1328. All other functions working fine. Do you use Prodigy Plus version 2103 or 1347?

Is the version 1347 working with cloned prodigy(no need to change hex etc?)?.

first, you should install the Prodigy 1347 software, after that - install the Dec04 Prodigy Plus GUI/SDK.
use the Prodigy Plus software for flashing/etc, and not the main Prodigy.exe

[danwood76]

There is a new version of prodigy plus out
http://www.gsm-support.biz/showthread.php?t=1986

There were quite a few bugs in the old release this on is hopefully better (I havent tried it yet 50% downloading)

regards,
Danny

[ms.nomi]

There is a new version of prodigy plus out
http://www.gsm-support.biz/showthread.php?t=1986

There were quite a few bugs in the old release this on is hopefully better (I havent tried it yet 50% downloading)

regards,
Danny



Please another link for download. My box is clone. I cannot download this software from official site :-(

BR
Michal

P.S. Sorry my english

[ldicdican]

@ms.nomi,

here is another download link for Prodigy Plus January 2005 GUI
http://rapidshare.de/files-en/434143/Prodigy_Plus_setup_Jan_2005.rar.html

[ms.nomi]

@ldicdican


Big thnx


BR Michal

[ms.nomi]

Hi All,

please help me. My box after update fw 2.41 (prodigy 1347) not working correctly.
I cannot flash any phone.

Fw 2.40 with prodigy 1347 or Prodigy plus januar 05 working OK.

Please help me.

Big thnx Michal

P.S. sorry my english

[ldicdican]

i didn't update my box to 2.41 because Prodigy Plus January 2005-GUI works perfectly with Prodigy 1347.

updating from 2.40 to 2.41 may(?) cause bugs :(
so before you update your box firmware, check if your OLD firmware ALREADY WORKING SMOOTHLY and DOESN'T NEED box update!

solution:
you may again upload the free 2.40 hex to your PIC. i don't think you can find any solution to revert your 2.41 to 2.40 without using PIC-programmer.
of course Prodigy can do that thingy(2.41 -> 2.40) thru bootloader programming!

br,

[ms.nomi]

i didn't update my box to 2.41 because Prodigy Plus January 2005-GUI works perfectly with Prodigy 1347.

updating from 2.40 to 2.41 may(?) cause bugs :(
so before you update your box firmware, check if your OLD firmware ALREADY WORKING SMOOTHLY and DOESN'T NEED box update!

solution:
you may again upload the free 2.40 hex to your PIC. i don't think you can find any solution to revert your 2.41 to 2.40 without using PIC-programmer.
of course Prodigy can do that thingy(2.41 -> 2.40) thru bootloader programming!

br,


Thnx,

my box working perfectly with fw 2.40HEX and Prodigy Plus January 2005-GUI.
Consequently I use still 2.40hex and not update it.


br

Michal

[teewk]

Hi everyone,

I would like to find out what exactly the hex file that is to be downloaded into the PIC18 is doing?

Has anyone try downloading the hex file from
http://www.b-phreaks.co.uk/prodigy.htm ? Is it working? I am asking this because after analysing the code, it seems like there is no communication done between the PIC18 and the phone .. maybe I have analyse wrongly .. hope u guys can enlighten me.

Thank you very much and hope to hear from you soon.

[danwood76]

Check my site here:
http://danwood76.t35.com/prodigy/downloads.htm

the hex you downloaded looks too small for the prodigy hex file
but the one on my site is correct

regards,
Danny

[teewk]

Hi Danny,

Thank you very much for your help. However, when I entered yr website and click on the 'Prodigy Hex Files' link, the following error msg was shown:

404 ERROR: FILE NOT FOUND

The page you were looking for could not be found. The possible reasons for this include:

- The site in question was violating our TOS and was removed.
- You might have misspelled the url of the page you were trying to get to.
- The webmaster of the site might have made an error in their code.

Is the file provided in that site u mentioned the same as your geocities's site: http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/prodigy/downloads.htm? Is that Hex file for Prodigy V 1.0.533?

In addition, I have some queries in mind and I hope u can help answer my queries. May I know what is the main function of the data in the EEPROM-24LC256? Am I right to say that it contain a second bootloader prog that is to be downloaded into the phone temporarily to allow communication between the phone and the PIC?

Sorry for asking so many questions. Really appreciate your help and hope to hear from u soon.

Regards,
Tee

[danwood76]

Yes it is the same file, I havent been maintaining my sites sorry about the dead links.

To tell you the truth im not 100% sure about the eeproms function as I have been out of touch from the scene for a while and havent used my prodigy in over a year!

good luk with your project

regards,
Danny

[teewk]

Thank you very much for the help :-)

Regards,
Tee