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nabsy123
16-02-2004, 02:55 PM
I think by now all of us are well aware of the so called BT hacking program..
everyone thinks its a fake..including myself.. but just this morning.. i came across this article.. hmmmm.. why do i feeel inclined to think that BT hacking really is a possibility..oh..and when u send a file from nokia(6600 used) to ericsson(p900 used) through BT.. the phone doesnt get any confirmation.. file is just sent..wierd isnt it! maybe theres an option sumwhere for the confirmation.. otherwise everyone will send whatever they want to the poor ericsson!!

anyways.. read this article and tell me what u guys think.. could the BT hacking program be true??

http://news.com.com/2100-1009_3-5155927.html?tag=macintouch

GeeZuZz
17-02-2004, 01:51 AM
The application is a fake, but the possiblility is true.

Noone have made such applications yet, but i guess it will come in the near future.

tzeonn
17-02-2004, 12:33 PM
yea, i read the article, and in my point of view, i tink the app to crack bt fones is an app from a pc, not from hp.

anyway, if bt hacker exists on fones, it will b disastrous.

nk_au
17-02-2004, 12:36 PM
Bluetooth hacking is possible. However, I don't think those hackers will share their tools. Unless someone betrays them or somethin lol :-P

I read an article on some News site, and they said that some phones are prone for attack. Not sure about 6600 or N-Gage. THe 7650 could only be attacked if the BT had "Shown to all" on, not "Hidden"

My N-Gage BT is now set to "Hidden". I think hidden means that anonymous or stranger BT devices cannot pair up without my permission. Hope my PC and HDW-2 still reacts with Hidden on ...

gophermaster
17-02-2004, 01:13 PM
If it was real,
The think I don't get is how do they turn the bluetooth connection on, if it isn't on?

FunkyG
17-02-2004, 10:38 PM
I never leave my bluetooth on, it only consumes precious battery time. Only when I encounter someone with another bluetooth device I would turn it on to share stuff.

aussie
18-02-2004, 02:33 PM
Hmm, interesting, only time will tell how safe bluetooth really is for the average user.. But so far the only possible bluetooth problem lies in a laptop to cellphone hack, not the other way around..
Cheers

mickey3650
18-02-2004, 02:52 PM
Bt hacking would still hv a big down point.. 10 mt range.. they'd need to do it really fast or risk to loose the connection moust of the times.. and really do u guys leave bt on? :rolleyes: well just dont.. lol I mean turn it on whenever u want to if its off no hacking will be possibleI guess.. it like amodem on a pc if the phone line's not connected no one willl be able to access ur computer therefor no hacking....

FunkyG
18-02-2004, 05:09 PM
I don't even see the purpose of bluetooth hacking.
Wouldn't it be a little odd if your phone started to act weird and a guy a couple of feet away from you is jamming the buttons on his phone? I mean.. CMON, aint it dumb? The hacker would be like 20 feet away from you. Close enough to walk towards him and smash his brains out :D
I don't really think good hackers are THAT stupid :lol:

cause & effect
18-02-2004, 07:01 PM
I don't even see the purpose of bluetooth hacking.
Wouldn't it be a little odd if your phone started to act weird and a guy a couple of feet away from you is jamming the buttons on his phone? I mean.. CMON, aint it dumb? The hacker would be like 20 feet away from you. Close enough to walk towards him and smash his brains out :D
I don't really think good hackers are THAT stupid :lol:


Ha ha lol, thats really funny, but yeah its a good tool. I swear if people did that in my area there would be murders. alot of peeps prefer 2 do business thru tex!!!!!!!!!!! imagine the posibilities ;)

FunkyG
19-02-2004, 05:35 PM
Bluetooth - Killing people :D

tzeonn
20-02-2004, 06:02 AM
now, imagine a bt hack prog on laptops equipped wif class 1 bt dongles... (100 m range!)

Grayfox
20-02-2004, 02:00 PM
how can they hack if each connection has to be verified and identified? The only way would be if you know the names of the devices paired with the phone, and you know the code (the number you have to type in when making a bluetooth connection, which is used for security encryption I suppose)
I think this bluetooth protocol version is pretty safe...

montel
21-02-2004, 01:30 AM
Just as a test I did a search for bluetooth devices in my local pub tonight, and no less than 8 devices came up!!! Now if there was a hacking program, and I'm sure there will be, this could be very dangarous.
Imagine if you where in a club with hundreds of people, no one would be any wiser, as there are always loads of people using there mobile phones in places like that.
I must admit I would be very intrigued by such a program. Lets face it who wouldn't?

scoby
21-02-2004, 06:36 AM
You may notice that the Nokia Representative & the security company in the article both mention "Blue tooth turned on". This is like getting excited because you've accessed another hard disk on your network...... well DER.... if you share your harddisks on a network... you.....can....access...them.

If you "share" your BT connection in the big wide world (eg... leave it on) other BT applicances may try to pair to your applicance....... not very exciting... clearly obvious if you read your handy's manual..... clearly obvious if you've ever used a PC before.

So if you leave BT on, you'll chew your battery up and your phone could be raped. OOOOOOO AARRRR.

Get on the net with a server, ADSL, share your drives, and no firewall......see what happens then....... way more exciting.

gophermaster
21-02-2004, 12:34 PM
Yep, that's right. I almost never have my bluetooth on, so it's all good.

AlexTheStampede
21-02-2004, 07:50 PM
no way...always on,for me.it uses more battery only when used,not simply active....and anyway,i'm sorrounded by idiots,so i don't worry. :lol:

gophermaster
22-02-2004, 02:51 AM
A lot of people don't really know about bluetooth hacking as such anyway, and not everyone has evil intentions. :)

syn7hor
22-02-2004, 04:29 AM
I keep mine on, hoping that I someday will get bluejacked.
I bluejacked 3 people today, it was lovely seeing their responses! =)

sk3done
22-02-2004, 09:45 PM
I keep mine on, hoping that I someday will get bluejacked.
I bluejacked 3 people today, it was lovely seeing their responses! =)

and i thought u guys were upto date well YOUR NOT

bluetooth hacking (bluesnarfing) exsits and not only can they copy EVERYTHING of your phone u do not need to have your bluetooth switched on AS there is allready a trojon for the symbian system that will turn it on at there request also u dont need to be there as u can have a bluetooth amp that will give u a range of abnout a mile with very little(if any) data loss also they can use your modem/gprs ect ect WITHOUT you knowing and yes programs allready exsist and are not in the main stream

AlexTheStampede
23-02-2004, 12:29 AM
i'm still not worried.to explain to you how much dumb are the s60 owners here,i'll simply say that I AM the one who teaches.so just imagine.... :lol:

leespud
23-02-2004, 02:52 AM
for this app i think we are looking in the wrong direction we shouldnt look far a sis we should look for an exe we are forgetting PDAs, laptops have bluetooth too and their interfaces are far more advnaced so bypassing authorisation is more possible

montel
23-02-2004, 08:12 PM
After doing a bit more research I have found the software and threat very much exists although it is only for use with the linux os.
But I do beleive it's only a matter of time before windows and then s60 versions become available.
Also there is software out there that can sill find your device even if it is hidden.
Just do a bit of searching and you will find.

canepazzo
03-03-2004, 05:23 PM
For all your question regarding bluetooth security take a look here:

www.bluestumbler.org

6600Wizard
05-03-2004, 04:44 PM
Whoever started this BT hacker thing off is a bloody idiot, its attracted so much attention. Now more people will create apps like this and sell em'. All this has just given the less imaginative hackers and developers a bit of inspiration to create a pain in the arse app. I could do with it tho, all those free apps i could get, i like it!

Critta
10-03-2004, 04:53 PM
There have been bluetooth hackers out there since before the summer, however the ones that are currently available only run on a linux platform, nothing that I am aware of for Mobile Phones or Windows platforms yet.

As far as the problem with the p900 not authenticating the files before it is received, this was an error with earlier software versions of the p900 (it was fixed about 2 weeks after the launch, so there will still be some units out there that exhibit this behaviour.)