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john74
04-04-2004, 10:30 PM
4.09.1 26-02-04 Has anyone mentioned this upgrade in here,i did it on friday and it has a few drawbacks,anyone else do it yet? BTW ITS THE NEW NOKIA 6600 UPGRADE

lyan
04-04-2004, 11:45 PM
4.09.1 26-02-04 Has anyone mentioned this upgrade in here,i did it on friday and it has a few drawbacks,anyone else do it yet?

I just got some questions about firmware and upgrade'ing.

1. what is upgrade'ing good for? whats get better?

2. is it safe?

3. where can i do it? can i do it myself, or do i have to turn it in to a store?

thx

john74
05-04-2004, 01:19 AM
I just got some questions about firmware and upgrade'ing.

1. what is upgrade'ing good for? whats get better?

2. is it safe?

3. where can i do it? can i do it myself, or do i have to turn it in to a store?

thx
1.it fixes bugs (greek 6600 had problems with the unicode thing,2.yes its safe,and 3.you must go to a nokia centre to do it,not possible at home

lyan
05-04-2004, 01:28 AM
ok, then maybe ill do that.
but what does it do?
does the mobile get faster?
better sound?
or what?

dont really understand what gets better

FunkyG
05-04-2004, 01:29 AM
4.09.1 26-02-04 Has anyone mentioned this upgrade in here,i did it on friday and it has a few drawbacks,anyone else do it yet?

Please be specific. You didn't mention what phone you mean (the most important part)... I guess you're talking about the 6600?

john74
05-04-2004, 01:29 AM
Good news:ETI CAMCORDER plays FULL VIDEO WITH SOUND on the new firmware version 4.09.1 ,also the manager goes a lot quicker when loading the installed apps Bad News:the BT and IR are locked to send sis/jar files (so we have to rename them to jpg or something else send it and then the other person renames and installs) loads of apps still work on the new firmware,if i find something else ill let you guys know

FunkyG
05-04-2004, 01:35 AM
I just got some questions about firmware and upgrade'ing.

1. what is upgrade'ing good for? whats get better?

2. is it safe?

3. where can i do it? can i do it myself, or do i have to turn it in to a store?

thx

2. No, it is not 100% safe. Only get your firmware upgraded when you experience software problems.

3. You have to get it done at a store that provides upgrading firmware services. If you want to do it yourself you need an adapter, a cable, a hub, the software (, a computer ^_^) and this all will cost you almost €200$ and you only need to use it once or twice.

edit:
Note that firmware upgrading is not as software upgrading on a pc. It can seriously damage your phone and make it useless if something goes wrong. The standard firmware included on the phone will probably never get upgraded anyway unless some really annoying errors are in them. Take the N-Gage for example, the latest firmware dates from 26/11/2003 and didn't got updated since. Why? because no serious errors occur. Only when you mess with 3rd party software like apps and games.

john74
05-04-2004, 01:38 AM
Please be specific. You didn't mention what phone you mean (the most important part)... I guess you're talking about the 6600?
Sorry i forgot,its for the beloved NOKIA 6600 im in GREECE by the way,who else has it?

lyan
05-04-2004, 03:50 AM
2. No, it is not 100% safe. Only get your firmware upgraded when you experience software problems.

3. You have to get it done at a store that provides upgrading firmware services. If you want to do it yourself you need an adapter, a cable, a hub, the software (, a computer ^_^) and this all will cost you almost €200$ and you only need to use it once or twice.

edit:
Note that firmware upgrading is not as software upgrading on a pc. It can seriously damage your phone and make it useless if something goes wrong. The standard firmware included on the phone will probably never get upgraded anyway unless some really annoying errors are in them. Take the N-Gage for example, the latest firmware dates from 26/11/2003 and didn't got updated since. Why? because no serious errors occur. Only when you mess with 3rd party software like apps and games.

thx funky!

i havent had any problems with my 3 6 5 0 , so then i wont change firmware and upgrade it.

coolice00
05-04-2004, 07:00 PM
Hi All,

I've just had my firmware updated today, took about 20 minutes while I waited.

Definetly seems to run faster, but...... so far quite a few of my favourite applications no longer seem to work.
Extended File Manager V1.72 - Loads ok but will not start.
Extended Profiles PRO V2.03 - Loads ok but will not start.
System Tools - Cannot register.

Hmmm, wondering if it was worth it as now I can't use my favourites.
Oh well, gonna keep playing :rolleyes:

Ian

Jesal
05-04-2004, 07:57 PM
hey ppl i am plannin to upgrade my firmware now since i am on the first one. so 1 ? i have is that if i back up my phone and then get FW upgraded and then when i restore the whole thing will i still have my sms the way they were sorted out or will they be deleted. please reply on this. i hope u ppl get wht i am trying to say.

Musicb0ffin
05-04-2004, 08:13 PM
I think it is possible. I backed up my fone just before getting my firmware upgraded, but didn't restore the backup after the upgrade. Probably would work, but best to check first.

Jesal
05-04-2004, 08:19 PM
ya i guess shud work too but i wna confirm before i do it since i dont have neother s60 phone to experiment with.

coolice00
05-04-2004, 08:39 PM
Hey Jesal,

Yes, it should restore ok mate. I'm doing it on my own phone now.
Done it once which was ok, except for apps not working. Formatted it to try another way, but now just restored again.
In my case I also had the call counters put to the exact same place which is good for my contract tracking.

Am now going to try installing older apps, then over-writing with new ones again.

Ian

BizzyRok
05-04-2004, 08:45 PM
do blz games work with the new firmware

Jesal
05-04-2004, 09:55 PM
hey coolice u have done it right not tellin me that it can be done. i will go tommo and find out the latest fw

nk_au
06-04-2004, 08:15 AM
do blz games work with the new firmware

Logically, no. Because Nokia is aware of cracked N-Gage games ... so they are working to prevent that from happenning.

So that's why N-Gage games are delayed, and probably new firmwares will prevent any Nokia S60 phones from playing those games

Not sure about Siemens SX1 ...

nk_au
06-04-2004, 10:57 AM
News: I hear from a 6600 user on a different forum, that after upgrading to 4.09.1 ... he can't send jar/mid/3gp files via bluetooth anymore, through the phone nor 3rd party software

is this true?

tzeonn
06-04-2004, 04:52 PM
well, anyone upgraded the firmware and tried playing ngage games?

personally, i feel they will still work, i dun see how they could stop the games being played wif a firmware. maybe, maybe not, facts anyone?

john74
06-04-2004, 09:26 PM
News: I hear from a 6600 user on a different forum, that after upgrading to 4.09.1 ... he can't send jar/mid/3gp files via bluetooth anymore, through the phone nor 3rd party software

is this true?
its true ive got that problem,by the way the psiloc programs can be installed no problem all you do is pull the date back on your phone 2 months and install as always!!!!

nk_au
07-04-2004, 01:58 AM
OMG! Im not going to 4.09.1 anymore ... can't transfer certain files over Bluetooth? That's stupid
Plus I can save the taxi fee :D

coolice00
07-04-2004, 02:15 AM
well, anyone upgraded the firmware and tried playing ngage games?

personally, i feel they will still work, i dun see how they could stop the games being played wif a firmware. maybe, maybe not, facts anyone?

Hey mate,

I've just put two on my phone, Virtua Tennis and MotoGP and they work as normal for me, so no problems there.

Haven't tried anymore. Maybe Pandamonium's been fixed for us maybe by the firmware ;)

Am still miffed as to why my favourite Psiloc apps don't work, has anyone else tried any maybe?

Ian

nk_au
07-04-2004, 02:16 AM
What are your two fav Psiloc apps again?

coolice00
07-04-2004, 02:24 AM
Blimey, that was fast :-o

I liked having these on my phone :

Extended File Manager V1.72
Extended Profiles PRO V2.03
System Tools V1.51

None of them seem to work, I've even tried putting the year back.

I've just read about returning the date to before 25th March but even then I think it's just a way to use the old versions again which is no fun :sad:

Ian

nk_au
07-04-2004, 02:47 AM
Don't put the date back a few months. Put the year back to 2003. The install. Then register. THen change the year back to 2004 again.

That should work. I did it last time, until a new version of KeyGens came out for latest Psiloc apps

tzeonn
07-04-2004, 05:48 PM
Hey mate,

I've just put two on my phone, Virtua Tennis and MotoGP and they work as normal for me, so no problems there.

Haven't tried anymore. Maybe Pandamonium's been fixed for us maybe by the firmware ;)

Am still miffed as to why my favourite Psiloc apps don't work, has anyone else tried any maybe?

Ian

cool.

u might wanna consider using older versions of those apps?

coolice00
07-04-2004, 07:22 PM
Hey,

Yeah thats what I was doing, but thinking back now it was with the newer versions I was trying this and it didn't work.

I'm now using the older versions after setting the date back to november 2003 :

Extended File Manager V1.71
Extended Profiles PRO V2.02

And the new System Tools V1.51 using the date trick also.
Now they all seem to work as normal.

More time will show up any more changes. So far haven't seen any real important changes, except it's now up to date.

Ian

john74
08-04-2004, 01:05 PM
Hey,

Yeah thats what I was doing, but thinking back now it was with the newer versions I was trying this and it didn't work.

I'm now using the older versions after setting the date back to november 2003 :

Extended File Manager V1.71
Extended Profiles PRO V2.02

And the new System Tools V1.51 using the date trick also.
Now they all seem to work as normal.

More time will show up any more changes. So far haven't seen any real important changes, except it's now up to date.

Ian
hey as long as the psiloc apps are working on my 6600 i dont mind whether its the latest version or not,until someone finds the k**gens for the new ones im alright!!!! By the way tube needs to be installed through an old firmware because you cant install it on this new firmware version,as for the possibility to send sis/jar/midi files with bluetooth and infrared all you need to do is to rename the lets say .sis file to .si and the other phone can recieve it and install it right away :-P where there is will there is a way!!!!!

coolice00
08-04-2004, 01:51 PM
Hey,

Well said, as long as the older ones work properly it don't matter. I'm just a bit of a tart when it comes to having the latest stuff 8-)

Has anyone noticed a difference with the theme's on their phone after the upgrade?
Before on some of the background pictures there appeared to be some areas of the pictures that would get slightly fuzzy, like pixels were moved slightly.
But now after the upgrade the pictures seem smoother and as they should be.

Ian

john74
08-04-2004, 02:13 PM
Hey,

Well said, as long as the older ones work properly it don't matter. I'm just a bit of a tart when it comes to having the latest stuff 8-)

Has anyone noticed a difference with the theme's on their phone after the upgrade?
Before on some of the background pictures there appeared to be some areas of the pictures that would get slightly fuzzy, like pixels were moved slightly.
But now after the upgrade the pictures seem smoother and as they should be.

Ianyeah your right it does seem better now doesnt it?another thing the OS system seems to be running a lot faster now,it enters the menu after start up a lot quicker than before....im adding an attachment with the upgrade improvments from the sources of nokia

Wouwz
08-04-2004, 03:19 PM
My 6600's are getting update as i speak, as i can pic em up in a bout 3 hours i'll see if i can confirm what what works and what doesn't!

can't w8

edmone
08-04-2004, 05:22 PM
Is New firmware can detect and read any brand of 256mb mmc and above?

Wouwz
08-04-2004, 05:26 PM
Ye offcourse it does, though this is not confirmed im sure it reads every MMC

edmone
08-04-2004, 05:40 PM
OK.I'll upgrade my firmware coz i had PQI 256mb but my phone can't format it and said my mmc is corrupted.What's wrong?

Wouwz
08-04-2004, 06:43 PM
OK.I'll upgrade my firmware coz i had PQI 256mb but my phone can't format it and said my mmc is corrupted.What's wrong?

Try Formatting it in a MMC reader, and remember every time u format a Memory unit u lose some capicity!!!!

And i've just picked up the 6600s both got 4.09.1 check the pic HERE (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img6&image=Picture005.jpg)

Gonna check out Pandamonium and ETI

tzeonn
09-04-2004, 01:38 AM
huh? ur saying formatting the mmc will make it lose its mem capacity?

no it wun mate.

Wouwz
09-04-2004, 11:04 AM
Yes it is with normal Hard Drives and i've been told that it also does on MMC...

tzeonn
09-04-2004, 03:16 PM
i tink its how u format ur mem, like but u can never get the full capacity of the mem device. its inevitable, but mulitple formatting wun reduce it further.

john74
09-04-2004, 10:40 PM
i formatted my 512mb mmc twice and from 38kb used the first format it went to 65kb used on the second ....empty with no apps on it fully formatted

nixfonepro
10-04-2004, 02:35 PM
is this in uk that the firmware is released because i wanna get mine updated and my firmware is messed cos whenever i turn my fone on, it says 1 new message when i aint even got a new message.

coolice00
10-04-2004, 02:57 PM
is this in uk that the firmware is released because i wanna get mine updated and my firmware is messed cos whenever i turn my fone on, it says 1 new message when i aint even got a new message.

Hi,

Yes, I'm in the UK and had mine done inside of 20 minutes at Communicade in Huntingdon.

Failing that a full phone format should cure your problems to.

Ian

LupCheong
10-04-2004, 04:09 PM
I upgraded the firmware to V 4.09.1 recently. Still can't get the darn Psiloc E Profile to work so I use SmartProfile now. Another application I cannot install since the upgrade is Quickword. Anyone have this problem? :-?

din4na
10-04-2004, 09:27 PM
Exactly , how can i flash my 6600 with my computer ? I have card reader, but dont have cable ? Where can i found out how to do this ?

tzeonn
11-04-2004, 05:18 AM
Exactly , how can i flash my 6600 with my computer ? I have card reader, but dont have cable ? Where can i found out how to do this ?

u cant flash ur fone urself, u need special flashing equipment for ur fone, and it can cost quite a bit for a decent one.

u can flash ur fone at nokia care ctr, it shld b free if its under warr.

Wouwz
12-04-2004, 01:19 AM
feeling used here, tried to send over a g'dam SIS din't work, then a friggin JAR ,nothing!!! O well a simple delete of the last letter and whe're done...


The phone IS faster, tested with same theme with another phone and yes it did show up to be faster, ye i know it depends on what u have installed. But both where without MMC and nearly empty harddisk.

Some games&apps are fixed and will work now, most games have sound fixed.

Some new Additions to the options.

Themes are fixed; As every 6600 owner knows some themes got their pixels not lined up perfectly, this is fixed 2 everything is perfect now

But even more important, the graphz on SonicN's menu's text are funked up as well as the Monkey ball's was. Monkey ball got fixed and SonicN has a better Menu graphs now.
Gonna try SplinterCell tommorow, maybe it's more playble with the NEW firm.
lez hope so...


This is just what i could remember, im sure there is more

Anyway for the people who can't decide what to do: UPGRADE

nk_au
12-04-2004, 02:36 AM
Hope Splinter Cell works lol. About the Sonic's menu, does it look exactly as it should on the N-Gage?

You can't send SIS or JAR files via Bluetooth to another device? Through FExplorer? Can you send images and/or polyphonics?

Wouwz
12-04-2004, 02:42 PM
Ye i can send everything Exept JAR & SIS

Being at our local party centre last saturday i've met a guy with a N-Gage and a 7650, so i happely tried transferring files, as no luck.
And ye i send with a different extension but without an Explorer it's useless unless u have 6600 (comes with standard file explorer).

So the thing i did was, had the N-Gager emtying his hard disk & MMC , emtied my hard disk, stuffed it with apps and games placed his MMC in my 6600 transferred it, Did a "no install transfer with FExplorer" ,returned the MMC, he opened FExplorer , then send all the files to the 7650er

Some work, but for a couple of free beers...........

BuLLDoGG
12-04-2004, 05:29 PM
And i've just picked up the 6600s both got 4.09.1 check the pic HERE (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img6&image=Picture005.jpg)

Gonna check out Pandamonium and ETI


i got V 3.42.1 and ETI that is said only works wif 4.o9.1 works on my phone perfectly well!

Wouwz
12-04-2004, 07:00 PM
i got V 3.42.1 and ETI that is said only works wif 4.o9.1 works on my phone perfectly well!

With sound?

Iceman5
12-04-2004, 10:12 PM
hehe, yeah i wouldnt say it runs "perfect" when theres no sound...

BuLLDoGG
13-04-2004, 10:51 AM
With sound?

not realy i don't have sound :sad: but still it records unlimitted vids :-P

c00per
13-04-2004, 11:08 AM
Hey you guys, is the new firmware out in holland??

thnx, bye bye

c00per
13-04-2004, 11:16 AM
nevermind I've called them already, and they said to me they first have to try it out (flashing to 4.09), and then they'll give me a call.

bye bye

Wouwz
13-04-2004, 12:37 PM
it works, as i have it on my 6600...

Also it erases any provider crap on your phone

Iceman5
13-04-2004, 01:12 PM
can any1 with the new firmware test an n-gage game?? im going to upgrade but i wanna be sure about this first....

Wouwz
13-04-2004, 01:35 PM
all work xept Splinter Cell still funked up

Dunno bout Puyo Pop though

nk_au
14-04-2004, 03:08 AM
Download the Nokia 6600 Firmware 4.09.1 from:

http://www.freegsmteam.com/index.php?l=eng

Username: test
Password: test

But you require a Flasher to upload the firmware onto your phone. Buy off Griffin or something ...

Wouwz
14-04-2004, 12:37 PM
I suggest u just run down a Nokia Centre...
Cheaper, faster & more reliable.

But good link though

tzeonn
18-04-2004, 03:22 PM
guys, read bout tis from tis site:
http://forums.keeptouch.net/showthread.php?t=21906


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i sold my upgraded 6600 and bought a old firmware versioned 6600 again,it had a serious problem except for the bluetooth and infrared locking but after 150mb of apps on the phone the installer would not install and remove apps on the manager ,i tested with 3 different mmc cards 2x256mb and my 512mb mmc,i formated my 6600 many times and it still would not fix it with 150mb or more with installed apps on the new firmware (6600)...im sticking with 3.42 version from now on!!!!
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anyone wif a big mmc can confirm tis?

terry
19-04-2004, 03:46 PM
Is The Mgs Game Run On New Firmware??

gece78
19-04-2004, 06:46 PM
guys, read bout tis from tis site:
http://forums.keeptouch.net/showthread.php?t=21906


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i sold my upgraded 6600 and bought a old firmware versioned 6600 again,it had a serious problem except for the bluetooth and infrared locking but after 150mb of apps on the phone the installer would not install and remove apps on the manager ,i tested with 3 different mmc cards 2x256mb and my 512mb mmc,i formated my 6600 many times and it still would not fix it with 150mb or more with installed apps on the new firmware (6600)...im sticking with 3.42 version from now on!!!!
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anyone wif a big mmc can confirm tis?

Well, I have 512 mb mmc and there's no such problem for me with the 4.09.1 firmware.(300 mb full) Some progs refuse to unload thats true, but all you have to do is unmaking sis on the computer, and deleting those files from the phone. But not any problem with installing new ones.

tzeonn
19-04-2004, 08:07 PM
Well, I have 512 mb mmc and there's no such problem for me with the 4.09.1 firmware.(300 mb full) Some progs refuse to unload thats true, but all you have to do is unmaking sis on the computer, and deleting those files from the phone. But not any problem with installing new ones.

thanx for replying, but did u try 150 mb of applications? no mp3s, movies, games, stuff, juz applications?

juz to make sure, actually, tink bout it.... who will install 150 mb of applications....

gece78
19-04-2004, 08:37 PM
thanx for replying, but did u try 150 mb of applications? no mp3s, movies, games, stuff, juz applications?

juz to make sure, actually, tink bout it.... who will install 150 mb of applications....

Yeah you're right but if you think an average application is 200 kb, that makes 750 applications. I don't think this is possible at all. He must be talking about games, mp3s, videos etc as well, I suppose...