7610

[Sairant]

There's this N7610 coming up.. wat do u guys think of it?

[tzeonn]

i love the functions, 1 mp cam, supposedly stereo (not sure) and its slightly slimmer than 6600.

but i hate to tink of its release price... :sad:

ps. sairant... where u been... nv post!!!

[Sairant]

Hmmm.. wonder when will it come out... if the release price is the same as P900, then 4get it.. but the functions are damn gooD... i will buy it if the price is S$600++.. btw, i didn't come in here for so long cause i'm didn't really 'use' much of my phone nowdays... Can anybody post me some of the latest programs/games?? ThanX alot..

[tzeonn]

man... read up!!!

check out games section, stickied the megadrive emulator thread.

shld haf come back more often... see how much u missing :-P

[Sairant]

Ya.. i really missed alot... i'll try to come back as much as possible.. but, i'm having my Industrial Training Program now.. so, muz see how lorZ.. :-P

[Pou_pee]

It's US$547.50 here in Thailand, same as SX1

[Sairant]

that's expensive... its way out of my budget... how long was it out in the thailand market?? do u think it will drop further?

[nk_au]

Just wondering, but why create a new thread when there are two threads started already related to the Nokia 7610? :-?

[Pou_pee]

that's expensive... its way out of my budget... how long was it out in the thailand market?? do u think it will drop further?

It's only out about a few days... and i think the price will drop 4 sure.

Juz a matter of time :smile:

[Sairant]

Sorry bout that.. i didn't go through the threads when i post this up.. real sorry bout it...

[Pou_pee]

Just wondering, but why create a new thread when there are two threads started already related to the Nokia 7610? :-?

emm.. I've just noticed that as well :-P

[Sairant]

hmmm.. i thought it came out for a month.. but, did anyone buy it already?

[nk_au]

Oh, ok. I understand now ... cool, its all cool :rolleyes:

[nk_au]

hmmm.. i thought it came out for a month.. but, did anyone buy it already?

Its released in Hong Kong, and people in the UK, US and AU are selling the 7610 in those countries respectively ... item being shipped from HKG

[Sairant]

oh.. but singapore have not receive any of it... hoping to see it soon...

[nuthatch]

neither in philippines. according to nokia, the suggested retail price is 29,750pesos. About the same w/ SX1

[x3mtech]

neither in philippines. according to nokia, the suggested retail price is 29,750pesos. About the same w/ SX1

hey guys! i just checked at greenhills, here in the philippines - the 7610 is out here already and it cost P 39,000 (pesos) approx $709 (us dollars)
really cost a lot! :-o i might get it when the price goes down, anyway im still enjoying my 6600...

i have to say that the greenhills here in the philippines is the cellphone capital of manila. lotsa stalls wherein you can buys phones, accessories and stuff, repair, install software and other mobile related stuff... you guys just have to check the place out... for those who are not in the philippines, you visit our country hehe... we've got lotsa good beaches too and lots of place to go for night life... 8-) :-P

[Sairant]

Wow!!! tat's ex.. i'm using a N3650 now.. its still alright.. but, compared to 7610, there is alot of diff... btw, does any one knows the processing speed of the phone??

[nk_au]

Expensive? Yes of course, because you're getting your money's worth. Have you seen the quality of the 1 Mega Pixel photos? I have ... they were astonishing :-o

I can't wait to get this phone.

If you're going to wait until its a decent price, a new phone might take your thoughts again ... and that one would be expensive as well :-P

[Sairant]

Hmmm.. that's true.. but how good is this 1-megapixel.. btw, if the quality of the pic is good, that will mean that the size will be big.. will the provided 64mb reduced size mmc be enough...

[nk_au]

You can fit about 259 pictures

Considering that 64MB RS-MMC = 65, 536kb
Average picture size = 253kb

65, 536/253 = 259.03557312252964426877470355731

Approximately 259

(This is based on the fact that you only use the RS-MMC for camera photos only)

[Sairant]

hmmm.. that makes little space for the mp3s and the other stuffs.. btw, is there other sizes of RSMMC?? like 256 or 512mb??

[Sairant]

oh.. actually i just found information on the RCMMC..

These RS-MMC Cards are highly integrated flash memories with serial and random access capability. It is accessible via a dedicated serial interface optimized for fast and reliable data transmission. This interface allows several cards to be stacked by through connecting their peripheral contacts. These RS-MMC Cards are fully compatible to a new consumer standard, called the MultiMedia Card system standard define in the MultiMedia Card System specification. The MultiMedia Crad system is a new mass-storage system based on innovations in semiconductor technology. It has been developed to provide an inexpensive, mechanically robust storage medium in card form for multimedia consumer applications. RS-MMC Card allows the design of inexpensive players and drivers without moving parts. A low power consumption and a wide supply voltage


Capcity:32MB/64MB/128M/256MByte
Compliant MMCA Specification Ver 3.2
On card error correction
Two alternative communication protocols:
MultiMedia mode and SPI mode
Variable clock rate 0~20MHz.
High speed serial interface with random access
support dual channels with interleave for flash memory.
Add MMC card adapter can be use in MMC card
external programming voltage required
Damage free powered card insertion and Dimension: 24mm(W)x18mm(L)x1.4mm(T) removal

[Sairant]

And, this is the way to calculate the size of a digital photo..

Calculating the Size of a Digital Photo

Unlike regular film, digital film stores information in pixels. You can think of pixels as blocks in a grid that make up the pattern in a digital photo. (Obviously, when we're talking about photo-quality resolution, the blocks are really tiny.)

The resolution of your photo is the total number of pixels contained along each edge of your photo. Thus, a 640 x 480 photo has 640 pixels along the top and 480 pixels down the side.

In order to figure out the file size of your photo, you first need to determine total number of pixels in your image. In our 640 x 480 example, we would multiply 640 by 480 and get 307,200 pixels.

Next, we multiply by the number of color channels. A grayscale image has only one channel, while an RGB image (format for viewing on a monitor) has three and a CMYK image (format for printing) has four. In our example, if we were working with an RGB file, we would multiply 307,200 pixels by three to get 921,600 bytes of information.

To convert to megabytes, divide 921,600 by 1,048,576 for a file size of approximately .9MB. Thus on a 4MB card, you could fit a minimum of 4 uncompressed 640 x 480 files.

So why do people say you can fit a maximum of ninety-one 640 x 480 photos on a 4MB card?

That's because most digital cameras offer some form of file compression, often JPEG or TIFF format. Compression utilities rely on mathematical algorithms to reduce the overall file size of your image. As a result the file takes up less space on the card.

We used a 20:1 ratio for our maximum compression. Few cameras offer compression formats that reduce the file size more than twenty times. On the average, digital cameras can usually compress files between five and ten times.

[Civilization]

Hehehe

Pls read the thread ... it's about N7610, not for computer graphics

Hehehehe

[Sairant]

hmmmm... not really sure of wat u meant.. but, i got the formula to calculate the size of the photo from my frenZ.. it might not be the 1 for calculating N7610, but, it might be helpful to some other ppl.. :rolleyes:

[reficul_x]

yes, 1mega pix is great and important, but the lens of the phone is the greatest feature that determine the quality of the photo.

and 7610 is a mono not stereo phone. i remembered someone here argued with me about the mono stereo issue. well, i have done my homework and it is a mono phone. i read it somewhere that the sound is as bad as the 6600.

im no longer that interested and hyped about the phone due to the fact of the RSMMC, which as both expensive and small in capacity (i heard its max. 128MB here) now. but the video rec function and camera is really the selling point of the phone.

[Sairant]

oh.. i think that kingmax is selling a 256mb rsmmc.. can try searching it on the net.

[fnvillafuerte]

...here in the philippines - the 7610 is out here already and it cost P 39,000 (pesos) approx $709 (us dollars)...


Opps!! People of the Philippine, dont bite the dust now! Nokia will officially release 7610 in authorized Phils. dealers (semicon, Brightpoint, etc.) at 29,750 pesos only (US$540) anytime within this month. The current units in Greenhills are smuggled ones, thats why its too expenseve to recover the "bribe money" spent in smuggling them in. They have no oficial Nokia warranty!

[Sairant]

Icic... by the way, what is this greenhill?? a place, a shop??

[fnvillafuerte]

Icic... by the way, what is this greenhill?? a place, a shop??

Its a place sumwhere here in Phils. thats full of different cellphone shops- hundreds of shops in one place! These shops sell new and used cellphones, sell accessories, buy-ur-old-cellphones, repair, upgrade/downgrde firmwares, install apps, convert from 8210-8250 etc., remove simlock, change backlites, paint-ur-housing, etc. etc...

[Musicb0ffin]

Sounds like a market place without all the fruitsellers and the like... Bet some dodgy shit is availble...

[nk_au]

Some sites list the 7610 as Ruby and Oynx

I understand the colour Ruby, but what is Oynx?

[urabe]

I guess that's supposed to be ONYX

answer straight from dictionary . com for ya:


a chalcedony with alternating black and white bands; used in making cameos

so ruby = red and black
and onyx = black and white!

;)

[nk_au]

Oh, thanks for that. I thought it was a Nokia made up word :lol:

[BuLLDoGG]

hey guys i was kind of away for couple of months and just read some stuff from russian sites about 7610 and what i found intresting about this phone was: 4x zoom when vid recording, formats for vid recording 3GPP, MPEG-4, H.263, Real Video, 176×208 display, USB port, real player plays these formats 3GPP, RealMedia, MP3, AAC, i mp camera and support of loads of formats
features that ain't that gud: Symbian 7.0s still b same OS wif 6600, onlya BL-5C battery not new BL-6C :(

concernin release dates:

The Nokia 7610 camera phone starts shipping
June01,2004

Nokia today announced that the Nokia 7610, its most advanced imaging device, has started shipping in Europe, Africa and Asia-Pacific.

[Musicb0ffin]

Its all been said, but nevermind. Cheers for the info anyway.

[Sairant]

Now, i'm having a 'to buy or not to buy' dilemma.. the functions are good but, there is still problems... btw, i read from other threads that it can't play games from N-guage.. Argh...

[tzeonn]

get 6600 lah friend, 7610 cfm v v ex in sg......

to me lahz, not much diff, only cam diff.

[BuLLDoGG]

Its all been said, but nevermind. Cheers for the info anyway.


sorry! :sad: as i said i was absent for couple of months missed a lot!

[Sairant]

Cam diff onli..... how bout the size.. smaller right... but, nvm.. wait till it comes out.. i'm going to try it out at the shops..

[imranac]

so...is 7610 stereo or mono?! any idea.. anyone?!

[Sairant]

its mono right... btw, i don't really know the difference between mono and stero, even though alot of people says that stero is better.

[imranac]

its mono right... btw, i don't really know the difference between mono and stero, even though alot of people says that stero is better.


hmmm..I am not sure about that..I heard many say it is stereo..

btw, de quality of stereo sound is much better and clearer than mono..
compare p900 (p800) and 6600 (3650/7650) speakers.. there's your difference! :rolleyes:

cheers!

I just started a new thread hoping for an answer..

[smpballa240]

difference between stereo and mono is NOT sound quality. mono comes out of one speaker, with only one channel of sound. stereo is why they have two speakers on a computer or headset: there's two different channels of sound comin out of two different speakers. kind of like surround sound but with only two speakers. mono and stereo has nothing to do with the quality. stereo just means that if you play a sound that takes advantage of both sound channels (like a lot of songs) you notice it. Example: drums play in left ear/speaker and guitar/vocals are in right.

[Sairant]

but, for a phone, if u answer it without a headset, that will not make much difference.. will it..

[smpballa240]

quite true.

[Sairant]

and since it makes not much difference, wat's the point of having mono n stereo??

[smpballa240]

holy <tihs< we have a winner. until these things (meaning phones) have good sound quality (not this novelty ultra mp3) and regular headphone jacks so we can plug em into speakers or headphones, it doesn't matter. Sure, Nokia's got their pop port, but as far as I've heard, the 7610 mp3 player may or may not be that much better than the 3650/6600 ultra mp3. Bah you'd think they could get it right just once (like good sound and sd slot instead of this rsmmc mess).

Quick question: How was the n-gage mp3 player? any good?

[Sairant]

Never!! they will never get them all together.. they might only give a phone with a good mp3 player, another with a good camera, another with a symbian os.. then they'll have one that combines mp3 with cam.. another with cam n symbian... so, they can get different combinations.. that'll enable them to make more money!!!

[tzeonn]

hmmm... ultramp3 only plays mono sounds.

u wan to know the diff in mono and stereo speakers in phones, put a mp3 in ngage, listen, then play the same mp3 using ultramp3 on ngage, thats the diff.

[Pou_pee]

Never!! they will never get them all together.. they might only give a phone with a good mp3 player, another with a good camera, another with a symbian os.. then they'll have one that combines mp3 with cam.. another with cam n symbian... so, they can get different combinations.. that'll enable them to make more money!!!

That's exactly what Nokia's been doing always (look at N6320: Stereo+Cam but s40, N-gage QD: Stereo+Symbian but no Cam, N7610: Cam+Symbian no Stereo, etc)

[Pou_pee]

hmmm... ultramp3 only plays mono sounds.

u wan to know the diff in mono and stereo speakers in phones, put a mp3 in ngage, listen, then play the same mp3 using ultramp3 on ngage, thats the diff.

Do N-gage really have a stereo speaker? :-?

I found little or no diff using the original player and the 3rd party ones (only via the loud speaker, ofcourse)

[Musicb0ffin]

If the source file is mono, it will be the same on mono and stereo speakers. With most music, its very hard to tell thats it stereo. I've only just noticed the difference when my audigy 2 mixes up my mp3's to 6.1, and thats with £100 sound system, not a fone!! I can't see why people are bitching about only having mono sound. The speakers are so small, you will never get a really good sound out of them, adding stereo support is a waste of money.

[tzeonn]

hmmm... ultramp3 plays mp3s a bit softer and of lower bitrates on my ngage, than the default one.

but then again, u want real mp3 good quality, u r better off with a ipod or something :)

[Sairant]

true... so, the N7610 will be off my first priority list... for now... lets wait and see if N7610i or N7620 is coming out...

[reficul_x]

yeah, listen to tzeonn's comment. get a 6600. wait till nokia is upgrading to a better phone again or change the OS to 8.0, then change. dun waste ur money.

and hey tzeonn, i just read off the papers and they mentioned that the 3.2 mega pixel casio phone will be here end of june!!! :-o

[Sairant]

oh.. is that so.. ok.. i'll wait.. btw, reficul-x.. u are from singapore too..

[tzeonn]

wat, that 3.2 mp phone is coming to sg!!! :-o

bet it costs a bome :sad:

imo, 7610 could b a test fone with rsmmc, a better model might b coming out.

just my views, but those keen on getting 7610, shld still get it, hey, its a little ex alright, but its a nokia symbian with 1 mp cam.

[fnvillafuerte]

For me, I'll stick to 6600... until Nokia will release a phone with all the 7610's feature AND Edge! Nokia almost have it when they released 6230, unfortunately it is not Symbian 60. Here in Philippines, Edge is already rolled-out by Smart Communications, ready for use in key cities. Imagine browsing and videostreaming via Edge at 200+ kbps.

[nk_au]

I know there will be a Nokia 7620 or 7610i coming out soon, but I just don't want to believe it.

I like the 7610's looks (black&red) and its features. Its design on both front and back, as well as its "integrated" mirror which I hear about

As long as the next Symbian phone looks nothing like the 7610 ... I'm happy :)

[Musicb0ffin]

Yeah, but its like the people who say they will upgrade their computer when the time is right. They never do. Either you want it, or you dont... If you really want the fone (like nk_au for example :D) you'll get the cash and buy it. If you aren't that fussed you won't... It will be a while before a 7620 or 7610i comes out, IF it comes out... There was no 7650i or 6600i... can't see nokia making a 7610i... 7620 is most likely to be a US version of 7610. Time will tell...

[nk_au]

1. The so called "6600i" turned out to be the 6620, which only works in the US (850, 1800, 1900)

2. Don't see the point of making US version of 7610, where there already is one! Two types of 7610: 800/1800/1900 and 850/1800/1900

3. Oh, and yea ... should I blow all my money until I'm bare just to get the 7610 today? It's so tempting ...

[Sairant]

may i ask, wat is this 'Edge' thing???

[nk_au]

Its a new technology which makes us one step closer to 3G, because EDGE can access the web and stream stuff nearly 15 times faster than GPRS

Which why some people want a phone that has EDGE

But your Service Provider must support it, and Australia at the moment doesn't I think ...

[Sairant]

ok... i see.. but isn't this useless.. the 3G can be counted as a failure as it took too long.. i've read in an article some time b4, the 4G is already under-construction.. so...???

[nk_au]

A company called "3" is already using 3G technology, so how can it be a failure?

Maybe just majority of carriers think its consumers don't require it just yet?

[Musicb0ffin]

3 offer some really good tariffs at great prices. The main downfall is only 60% 3G covereage in the UK (O2 cover the rest as 2G coverage) and the fones are massive and made by people like motorolla. The new LG fone out is getting closer to how it should be, so if nokia got a fully 3G phone out, it would really take off. I think 3G is still in its early days... Its gonna take over. Once a 2nd company comes on the scene, things will get interesting...

[k2bk2b]

IT supports pop port but unfortunately output is NOT STEREO!!!!
omg!!! another flop!!

check here
http://www.threegmobile.net/main/index.php?lang=ENG&option=news_detail&nid=317&page=2

LOL!!! so much for nokia again!!!
disappoints

[Sairant]

Still, i think that the 3G is taking too long.. I've been hearing it for years.. I WAS very interested in it, but, time burned off most of it... And, i still don't really understand why there shld be stero on handphones.. its only for the MP3 player right?? is there any other use for it?

[Musicb0ffin]

Boo hoo, no stereo... Must mean the fone is a bag of shit.

Oh, there is a spec of dust under the cover of the my 3650!! Damn nokia, why didn't they make it a vacuum inside to avoid it? I'll have to bin it now...

Cmon, grow up. Stereo, big wow... Why not put 7.1 in a phone eh? Cuz its not needed. Neither is stereo. Christ...

[djamest]

Have just checked last night Price now from Greenhils is P32K hmmm worth waiting till price drops.

[dj^^]

i'll still maintain using my 6600....to me, nothing attractive for the 7610 other than the high megapixel camera.....

the rest are just button small, with a parrell port handsfree. which i prefer phones using hdc-5.. irregular buttons....which is hard to press...

but one another thing special about this phone is that it gotta inbuild GPS system...but i've test it already...the inbuild gps can't compare to our MINIgps. haha

[Sairant]

Well, i've seen the phone.. its not as nice as i thought it shld be.. but, has anybody confirmed bout the N-guage games? they are not working, right??

[rhai]

That's exactly what Nokia's been doing always (look at N6320: Stereo+Cam but s40, N-gage QD: Stereo+Symbian but no Cam, N7610: Cam+Symbian no Stereo, etc)

I bet you got it wrong...

N-Gage QD is mono and N-Gage is stereo... :-P

[Sairant]

U mean?? i was asking if N-guage games are working on N7610..

[nk_au]

Can't believe people still don't get the point! :-x

NO N-GAGE GAMES ON THE NOKIA 7610!

Either:

1. Get an N-Gage or N-Gage QD; or
2. Wait for a miracle

Yours sincerely,
nk_au

[dj^^]

yea..!!! LOL


go for option 1 DUDE....n-gage is cheap!!! LOL

[Sairant]

well, i'll prefer option 2.. wait for a miracle.. by the time it happens, the price shld drop.. :).. thats a stupid but good suggestion right

[nk_au]

I think a miracle is happenning or something :-o

Because a handful of people have managed to get N-Gage games working. But the catch is, that some people can't get it working either!

The Great Debate ... :lol:

[Iceman5]

I think a miracle is happenning or something :-o

Because a handful of people have managed to get N-Gage games working. But the catch is, that some people can't get it working either!

The Great Debate ... :lol:
lol... now THAT is funny :lol:

[Sairant]

that's 1/2 a good news... since some ppl can get it working, lets see how they did it.. can it be the firmware or the RSMMC?

[nk_au]

I haven't tried the N-Gage games yet. Still trying to get the DKU-2 USB Cable working smoothly

My Firmware is v4.0421.4ch

I presume the "ch" means its the Chinese version? Well, that explains ... because my 7610 was shipped from Hong Kong :lol:

My RS-MMC is only 64MB. Until I get a 128MB or 256MB ... then I'll start trying N-Gage games. At the moment, I'm seeing what games and apps work on the 7610 :D

[shad0w]

hey nk_au..can u give us a little review on the 7610? pro's and con's..U haf twikled wif it for some days now..this could somehow convince other to buy it as well.. :D

[nk_au]

Sales Package Contents: Contains everything. Mine has Chinese User Guides, which isn't much help. I'm Australian-Born Chinese. I read only English, no Chinese capabilities. At least I know the Symbian layout from 6600 experience ...

There are two types of Sales Packages, European/American and the Asian.
If the box has a picture of a male taking a photo or a beautiful lady ... you bought yourself the European/American version
If the box has the usual style, of circles and "Nokia 7610" written at the top ... you probably got yourself the Asian version

In your package, you will get either a Wrist Strap or a Pouch. Personally, I prefer the Pouch ... because the Wrist Strap has a metal section, which has caused some grief for people who now have scratched elegant 7610s

External Looks: Very classy. I got the Ruby, and its so attractive. In 3 weeks time, I'll test it out among the girls :D ~ it has a glossy touch to it, and the shiny white and red stripe on the front makes it so ... astonishing. The back cover is very nice too. It has an attractive design, with a section of it being reflective. This reflection cannot be properly used as a mirror though, so self-portraits may be a hassle

Phone Calls: Reception is better. There isn't a muffled sound in the background like my previous 6600 had.

Battery Life: Pretty impressive! More efficient than the 6600! When I had the 6600, I had Bluetooth on the whole day (PC Connection) and the battery only lasted less than 24 hours. With the 7610, it has passed 24 hours! I'm still not sure how long it will last ... because my 7610 only arrived yesterday via EMS

Size/Shape: Smaller. Stylish. Sexy. Solid. The faceplate shouldn't be loose after aging, like some other phones

Keypad: Yes, it looks a bit wierd. But I think its wack. The only button that is difficult to press at times ... is the * key. Sometimes the 0. Otherwise, its all fine. If you're left handed, the phone isn't that hard to use. I'm right-handed, but I use my Left Hand occassionally

System Speed: Significantly faster than 6600. Themes run faster than 6600. Problem with themes on 7610, is you can only used the Icons that came with the theme. No "mixing" themes, icons and wallpapers around

Internal Looks: There are new default themes on the 7610. Themes can be personalized. My 7610 does not have one of the themes listed at Nokia.com in the Phone Demo which seems wierd. The font used is thinner and smaller, so more text can be viewed.

Camera: Impressive. But warning, the photos taken by 7610 is hugely influenced by how much natural lighting you have. If you rely on artificial light ... you may get grainy photos. But scaling the 1152x864 picture down helps. I scaled down my favourite photo from 1152x864 to 640x480 and it looks great again.

But comparing the camera in 6600 vs 7610 ... obviously the 7610 wins

Video Camera: Still not tested. Will come back with details and results
Sound: One word >>>MONO<<< Sound is very loud! Very impressive I should mention. The MP3 playing through the Loudspeaker is very nice, and impressive for a mono device. The 7610 comes with an old-fashioned one-earpiece headset with a Pop-Port connection. I'll be testing with a HS-4W once it is available for purchase in Australia

Games/Apps: My 7610 doesn't have Snake EX and Mix Pix like Nokia promised at Nokia.com! This is a disgrace! But ... this is now confirmed from my mouth:

96% of Applications that worked on 6600, work on 7610 as well
The 4% includes infrared related progs, VGA apps and a few incompatible ones

USB Cable: Still trying to get this working smoothly. The USB Cable is not the same as the N-Gage's. It is not Plug and Play type, and view the E Drive. I am still trying to get this working with PC Suite

PC Suite: Ridicolous - using the Series 40 PC Suite design for a Symbian phone like the 7610. Should use the same type of program as the 6600 or N-Gage, but with a better GUI (Graphic User Interface)

As my 7610 is the Greater China version (v4.021.4ch), there are pre-installed apps that only appear on the Chinese 7610. These software were developed by Taiwan/Hong Kong companies. They include Snapshot (takes multiple pictures in few seconds - VGA or 1MP mode), CameraXPro (still not tested) and some others. The Greater China 7610 supports Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese and English.

I still cannot try out Positioning and Presence, until my Service Provider supports it. LifeBlog is still not available yet, so I cannot try that out either.

Anything else you guys want to know?

[shad0w]

wats d dif between the 2 sales packages??? :-?

[nk_au]

Nothing really. Just one is European and the other is Asian.

And if its the Greater China version: it supports Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese and English

Oh ... and the other difference? Some people don't like phones made in Asia.
I dont care. They're all phones ...

[Sairant]

thats great.. at last a symbian phone that supports chi.. i thought that T9 will get to write another program for 7610.

[nk_au]

A British guy (or gal!) is already selling Covers/Faceplates/Fascias for the 7610!

No keypads included, so you have to keep your original Ruby (black and red) keypad

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42408&item=6303051424&rd=1

I'm not buying it. I already like my original RUBY :lol:

[tzeonn]

nice review william.

hope ur ruby precious magnetise some hot babes!

ps. post nice pix up... :-P

[nk_au]

A few photos of my 7610 for people to see! :-P

http://nokiafree.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12670&stc=1
http://nokiafree.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12671&stc=1
http://nokiafree.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12672&stc=1
http://nokiafree.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12673&stc=1

There is a photo I took with the 7610. I resized it from 1152x864 to 500x375 to make it less "grainy" because of too much artificial light. Check it out at http://nokiafree.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12666&stc=1

[shad0w]

it says invalid attachment..wonder y? :-?

[nk_au]

No idea mate. It seems to work on my side :-?

GUYS >>>

I found the first bug on the 7610 firmware (v4.021.4ch)

When you make a contact:
First Name: Wu
Last Name: William

And you receive the SMS from this person, it doesn't appear as "William Wu" but as "WilliamWu" without the space! Grr ...

PS: On the 7610, if you want your contact listed in alphabetical order by First name, you have to put the first name as last, and last as first. Get it? :D

[shad0w]

hav u tried placing a space on ur 1st name?

First Name: _Wu
Last Name: William

juz a gez..dnt knw if it wil wrk..

[nk_au]

It doesn't work. The firmware just thinks that there was no space and does the same problem.

Well, its a minor problem. I can live with it :D
I wouldn't mind getting rid of this HKG firmware and get a Australian one instead (then i won't have a "ch" at the end of my firmware version :) )

The worst problem I had on the 6600 was that SMS prob. In the address bar, the alphabet is entered on default. You have to manually change it to numerical ...

[reficul_x]

dun do space then, do an underscore like my nick... i dun c why it doesnt reconise it.

well the other prob, u jus wait for a new firmware update!

[nk_au]

Na ... the SMS Address Bar problem doesn't exist on the 7610

Thank God!

[reficul_x]

firmware update....wait....... :-P

[dj^^]

would like to ask nk_au some question...

does psiloc apps work on ur 7610??

example worldclock and screensaaver??

[nk_au]

I tried Extended Profiles Pro and it didn't work on my 7610 :-o

Obviously Total irRemote won't work :D

Haven't tried World Clock. I tried World Mate though, but the app was extremely slow (compared to the app running on 6600)

Will try more Psiloc apps soon ...

[pyroboy]

hmmmm the 7610 sounds good but it doesnt seem THAT much better than my 3650... might wait until they bring out a 3g phone (does anyone know any stats about the 6630 yet?) as here in Australia telstra and vodaphone (not sure about optus) are already in the planning stages of a 3G network which will make things interesting...

[nk_au]

Why bother going to 3G in its early stages?

I'm going to wait until the 2nd or 3rd generation fleet of phones come out :D
(Hopefully have 3.2 or 5 mega pixel camera phones with 3G! w00t!)

Hehehe ...

[mr_marts]

lmao i hate to bust your bubbles but 4g is being developed the 7610 has not much that the 6600 can't offer i prefer to waste my money on sony psp for now and next december get a new phone when my contract ends

[nk_au]

Everyone's saying nearly the same things about the 7610 over and over again ...

For me (I'm on prepaid), the 7610 had the straight sides, less thickness, nice design and the one mega pixel ~ which made me buy it :rolleyes:

4G? What can be better than 3G at the moment? Can you fill me in? How can they start 4G when 3G isn't even up and running yet? :-?

[leespud]

4g is basically broadband connection on your mobile if im correct, each generation is a type of data transfer,

1g ring & text
2g WAP
2.5g GPRS
3g now fast enough for live streaming videos
4g broadband


prove me wrong if you like this is what i can remmber but its what i read back in february wen i was looking to get a z1010(which still aint been released!!!!)

[nk_au]

Oh, ok. Thanks leespud for the information!

Guess 1G basically is Ring and SMS, 2G is GPRS and MMS, 3G would Video Calls :D

[nk_au]

I'm here to confirm that the three-key format (Green * 3) works on the Nokia 7610

I'm formatting right now ... brb

[smpballa240]

Of course here in the U.S. we can't get our shit together and standardize...
Damn inches. Damn corporations. Ah well.
Anyway, i don't even know if anyone in the U.S. has EDGE except for AT&T, and i only barely recall reading somewhere that they have it. Anyone know what carriers in the states have EDGE capabilities? Unless they're coming on a more widespread scale soon, I have no reason to wait for the 6630 and I should just get the 7610. I'm only waiting for the 384 kbps .haha I realized the other day my phone internet would be faster than a lot of people's in home internet.

Anyone know of any reason I should get the 6630 over the 7610 if I can't utilize EDGE?

[nk_au]

Nope, don't bother. I'd get the 7610 ... :-P

None of the Australian carriers support EDGE yet, so phones like the 3200 and 6630 would be useless.

[Sairant]

well.. i guess 4G's not going to come out that soon... but, i'm now cash-less.. my com just broke down... so, got to fix it first b4 thinking of getting any other things.. btw, wouldn't it be cool if there's a flip phone with the 7610's function + touch screen (i'm abit into touch screen phones now)... that'll be nice right..

[smpballa240]

idk about farther east, but here in the states sprint, verizon, and AT&T have launched their 3G networks. and word on the street is they achieve speeds of... <drum roll>... between 40 and 60 kbps. ... o_O ...

So seriously, from someone other than nk_au (not cause I don't like you, only cause you love the 7610 so much haha) is there any reason other than EDGE to get the 6630 over the 7610???

[nk_au]

I'm going to prove to you, that I'm not bias when not needed to :D

I'm only going to mention the pros in each phone:

6630
3G Video Calls
1.3 Mega Pixel
Stereo sound for mp3 output
6x Digital Zoom
10MB Dynamic Internal Memory
Hot-Swappable RS-MMC
Burst mode: 6 images in 2 seconds
EDGE Technology
MS Word and Powerpoint Viewer

7610
Nice design ~ stylish
Movie Director
Decent mono sound for mp3 output
1 Mega Pixel
10 Minutes Video Recording
Monoblock type with 'straight' sides
4x Digital Zoom
8MB Dynamic Internal Memory

There you go. If you require the latest hot stuff, or your a businessman ... you'd get the 6630
If you're a normal guy (or gal!) and just want something sexy with a few of the latest gadgets ... get the 7610

I'm not too bias after all, eh? :-P :-P :-P

[smpballa240]

Haha much thanks, nk_au. No offense intended by what I said, of course.

I think I'll stick around for the 6630 and hope that the American corporations grow some balls by then. Besides, I'm hoping it's stereo with a true, full quality MP3 player in it this time. If I'm gonna shell out 500 American, I might as well be patient and get as much as I can out of it.

Anyone taken a look at the Sendo X though? If it had a megapixel camera I might have to ditch Nokia for it.

[nk_au]

Sendo X is too late I reckon. It only started shipping. Everyone was going frenzy about it. Had it been released then, they probably earned quite a lot of profit.

However, they took their time and Nokia has released information about five new models. Who knows? Only time will tell how well the Sendo X will sell :D

PS: Nokia still doesn't make the Flash integrated onto the 7610 lol :lol: ~ I bet its all got to do with their crap BL-5C battery power :-P

[Sairant]

does 6630 have symbian os??? if yes, its going to be a phone for me..

[Sairant]

on second thought, maybe the 6260 will be better.. i'm abit tired of the 'egg' shaped phones..

[Sairant]

so, i guess that's the end of the N7610 talk.. its already here in singapore. those who wants to 'feel' the phone, u might us drop by some shops to try it out.

[k2bk2b]

so, i guess that's the end of the N7610 talk.. its already here in singapore. those who wants to 'feel' the phone, u might us drop by some shops to try it out.


whats in singapore already?
which model??? where??

[tzeonn]

whats in singapore already?
which model??? where??

well, he meant 7610 is officially out in sg.

btw, i seen it, looks fragile to me :-P

[nk_au]

End of Nokia 7610 talk? Why would you guys do that?

Lifeblog is out! WOO HOO!!!!!!!

[JoK3R]

Hi,

First time poster here.
My Girlfriend has just gotten a Australian version 7610.
I have installed the BLZ-Installer & I can confirm some N-Gage games do work on the 7610 (BLZ Cracked Version)
so more or so the generation-1 N-Gage games.

Games tested are:
SonicN
Pandemonium
Puyo Pop

Hope this help some people with the 7610

I really like the design of the 7610 a very solid phone, but the functionality of the phone is still very similar to the 6600 which is what im using at the moment.
Main advantage is the data cable!...rox!
Disadvantages in my point of view must be the RC-MMC
wish Nokia went to a more widely available technology like Mini SD or something you can grab any almost any PC Market.

If you guys love the 6600 & wanna stick with it but in a smaller shell & less weight go for the 7610.
If you want more of a change then wait for a new phone. e.g Motorola MPX! :)

I give it myself a 8/10 only because i love the 6600

My 2c.

[nk_au]

I know that miniSD could have been an alternative ... but maybe its got to do with the "SD = Secure Digital". Don't want it too secure or something? LOL :D ~ I don't mind RS-MMC. I thank Nokia for using it and including a 64MB one ... as i believe it made the 7610 "trim those sides" (comparing to 6600)

I hate my ex-6600 (mainly because of the joystick, size and weight), and love the 7610 now. 9/10 from me

[nk_au]

X-Pression Time.

Look at this: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39838&item=6306517719&rd=1

Why does it look original, says NOKIA, looks nice and everything ... but the back cover design is not the same as an original (check Phone Demo or pics) ...

Any ideas? :-?

Pity it comes with no keypad ...

[MobiLuck]

Hi everybody!

I think the 7610 is great!
Basically it's a 6600 (a very good phone) but ligther and smaller with a megapixel camera. :D
And MobiLuck runs perfectly on it. :D

[Judicator]

Why does it look original, says NOKIA, looks nice and everything ... but the back cover design is not the same as an original (check Phone Demo or pics) ...

Any ideas? :-?


It is only a copy! It is a cheap copy of an original cover! Read the text! :)



Description:
Not original but perfectly fit.

[nk_au]

It is only a copy! It is a cheap copy of an original cover! Read the text! :)

I realized that, but the purpose of my previous post is to ask:

Why does it say NOKIA if it isn't genuine? Isn't that illegal? :-?

[Judicator]

Ok, so I missunderstanded your question! :(

Well, yes, it's illegal! But EBAY doesn't care! Und as long as Nokia doesn't take legal actions vs. the seller - nobody has a problem! ;)

Maybe the quality is not such good...

[nk_au]

Well, yes, it's illegal! But EBAY doesn't care! Und as long as Nokia doesn't take legal actions vs. the seller - nobody has a problem! ;)

Maybe the quality is not such good...

Yea, the quality might be crap. That's why I'm not pressing that "BUY IT NOW" button :D

[Musicb0ffin]

Yeah, but I like those fake "nokia" covers... The quality is better than the real shit 3rd party ones, and cuz it says nokia on it, I look like less of a cheapskate to the ppl who see me with the cover on my fone. Ok, they don't take abuse the the real covers, they chip, the top layer of paint comes off and you can see the LEDs through the cover, but I can have about 4 of these covers for the price of 1 genuine cover, so who cares??? Soon as they are trashed, bin it and get a new one.

[Sairant]

hmmm.. have more ppl got the 7610?

[R_jay]

One thing about the 7610 which I noticed (and part of the reason I got a 6600 instead) is that I found it quite uncomfortable to hold, which someone else mention earlier. The straight sides don't really fit in your hands that well.

[nk_au]

Don't take this as a fact, all you potential 7610 owners. It's merely an opinion! It fits in my hand perfectly (I like using it on the Left Hand. PS: I'm right handed). When I had the 6600, it felt too fat and wide for me.
The Nokia 7610 is perfect for me.

Optus World shops told me that the 7610 Covers and Style Packs should come out within a month's time.

Hope they're right! Can't wait for a Ruby instead of Onyx ...

[reficul_x]

Don't take this as a fact, all you potential 7610 owners. It's merely an opinion! It fits in my hand perfectly (I like using it on the Left Hand. PS: I'm right handed). When I had the 6600, it felt too fat and wide for me.
The Nokia 7610 is perfect for me.

Optus World shops told me that the 7610 Covers and Style Packs should come out within a month's time.

Hope they're right! Can't wait for a Ruby instead of Onyx ...

if 7610 is difficult to hold, 6630 i guess will be worst.

how about the symbian flip phone? i guess it will be worst, how about some buttons at the screen area? dumb..... :-?

[nk_au]

if 7610 is difficult to hold, 6630 i guess will be worst.

how about the symbian flip phone? i guess it will be worst, how about some buttons at the screen area? dumb..... :-?

Agree with you in every move ... except the criticism you placed on the 7610 :D

I don't understand ~ it isn't hard to hold. Although, its easier to use on your Left Hand rather than the Right Hand, due to the placement of the keys "swurving" to the left. I'm Right Handed, and I love using the 7610 in my Left

I just hope that people who stop the irrelevant and incorrect criticism they place on the Nokia 7610. Opinions? I'd respect them, as I would offer a different view

[reficul_x]

lol....

u are so sensitive towards ur 7610! ehehehehhehe...

i mentioned...IF... not 7610 difficult to hold! See my post again! hehehe....
nk_au,.....my gf wants the 7610,.....most prob i will have to dig my pockets for some $.

SHUCKS! why did nokia came out with such an aesthetically appealing design!??! and im now considering btwn the 7610 and 6630.... :-?

[Judicator]

lol....

u are so sensitive towards ur 7610! ehehehehhehe...

i mentioned...IF... not 7610 difficult to hold! See my post again! hehehe....
nk_au,.....my gf wants the 7610,.....most prob i will have to dig my pockets for some $.

SHUCKS! why did nokia came out with such an aesthetically appealing design!??! and im now considering btwn the 7610 and 6630.... :-?

^^

Wait for 6630, or buy a 7610 if you want to produce a smile on nk_au's face!
:grin:

But I like the design of the 7610, too! Just a shame that it has no Stereo and no Radio and no hot-swap! So my beloved SX1 remains Number 1!

PS: I am as SX1-sensitive as nk_au 7610-sens ! :)

Cheers, m8!

[R_jay]

Don't take this as a fact, all you potential 7610 owners. It's merely an opinion! It fits in my hand perfectly (I like using it on the Left Hand. PS: I'm right handed). When I had the 6600, it felt too fat and wide for me.
The Nokia 7610 is perfect for me.

Optus World shops told me that the 7610 Covers and Style Packs should come out within a month's time.

Hope they're right! Can't wait for a Ruby instead of Onyx ...

Its only my personal opinion of course, thats kinda implied, is'nt it?

[nk_au]

Yep, I guess it is.

Trust. Peace. Happiness

~ Bu-ya-ka-sha

[Judicator]

Yeah! :o)

Peace, happiness and pancakes! ^^

[S12ken]

I've had the 7610 for about a month already, i like the features, a bit ackward for some games bet well worth it, i already have a fake cover, it fits well, all i need now is a keypad to go with it, camera is REALLLY GREAT! and i just downloaded Lifeblog beta rom nokia, it's a joy to use, easy management of your messages, pictures and videos, try it! cable's fine, bt's ok, one thing though, i wish i could buy higher capacity RS-MMCs here.... sucks not having a credit card to buy things online... :-(

[reficul_x]

^^

Wait for 6630, or buy a 7610 if you want to produce a smile on nk_au's face!
:grin:

But I like the design of the 7610, too! Just a shame that it has no Stereo and no Radio and no hot-swap! So my beloved SX1 remains Number 1!

PS: I am as SX1-sensitive as nk_au 7610-sens ! :)

Cheers, m8!

hmm... the only prob with sx1 is the ackward keypad. otherwise i have gotten sx1 instead of my 6600.

[Judicator]

hmm... the only prob with sx1 is the ackward keypad. otherwise i have gotten sx1 instead of my 6600.

Well after some time you can use it with one hand, too!

But it's weired at first, right! ;)

[nk_au]

As you all know, the Hong Kong version of the 7610 has some extra apps (developed by Hong Kong and/or Taiwan) that no other 7610 would have.

Thanks to lawrence| on mirc (he's in Hong Kong), he has sent me a ZIP file of what he has in E:/system

Print@Kodak and Video work - but you can't view the Options properly cause it's in Chinese (Quote: "Ya'll Gonna Learn Chinese" by Jin)

Snapshot does not work. When you try to open it, it comes with an error "Snapshot: Feature not supported". Pity this doesn't work, cause this app can take 3 1MP pictures or 6 VGA pictures in "x" seconds. Might need a cracker/hacker to work on this one. (Why's this? The HKG 7610 and AUS 7610 are all 7610s ...)

I've been able to extract the program Camera X Pro, and it works on the Australian 7610 perfectly. Anyways, I'm going to make a SIS Installer for Camera X Pro. Problem is though, I keep getting run-time errors (I have the run-time files installed).

If you're interested in the Camera X Pro application for your 7610, e-mail me at [email protected]

NOTE: Camera X Pro is a Still Imaging program. It's not a video recording app!

[nk_au]

Should I buy a 256MB or 512MB RS-MMC:

256MB RS-MMC AUD $116.69 USD$89
512MB RS-MMC AUD $299.05 USD$210.125

PS: Holy shit ~ 1 Australian Dollar = 0.70 American Dollars!

[reficul_x]

Should I buy a 256MB or 512MB RS-MMC:

256MB RS-MMC AUD $116.69 USD$89
512MB RS-MMC AUD $299.05 USD$210.125

PS: Holy shit ~ 1 Australian Dollar = 0.70 American Dollars!

holy holy!

512 is damn ex!!! but of cos, get a 512...cos i feel its a good investment... if u get 256, and in the future it may prove to be furtile as future games or apps size may be really consuming. or u can wait for the price to drop further...

[nk_au]

holy holy!

512 is damn ex!!! but of cos, get a 512...cos i feel its a good investment... if u get 256, and in the future it may prove to be furtile as future games or apps size may be really consuming. or u can wait for the price to drop further...

That is exactly what I think too. I'm only $50 short of a 512MB RS-MMC. Can't wait! :D

[nk_au]

I bought and tested my HDS-3 headset on my 7610. It doesn't work, and an error message comes up "Enhancement Not Supported"

However, I went to Nokia Care and the guy said that it should work ...

What are your opinions?

(Don't think I'll test the HS-2R Radio headset on my 7610 anymore :o )

Btw, you guys have any ideas where I can get a Genuine Ruby Faceplate and keypad?