(Nokia) OTA ringtone to phone, how?

[jimhoyle]

Hi, I want to upload OTA ringtones to phone directly (on infrared or cable). How do I do that? Here's what I found out already (+ I know how to make OTAs):

|1e|00|0c|type|00|len|...body...|n|sq|0?| chk |

[example dump start]
1C 00 0C 12 00 20 0C 01 06 05 04 15 81 00 00

Body = OTA ringtone:
02 4A 3A 5D 05 09 0D 11 15 19 1C 04 00 0B 1C D4
91 41 14 00

00 01 42 12 C1
[example dump end]

Now, sending this dump alone to the com port doesn't do anything. What else do I need to do? Please respond asap, private mail very welcome too! Any info that I didn't write there is highly appreciated.

Thanks!

[jimhoyle]

Does no one really know nothing about the subject?

Any help would be great. For example should the protocol work just the same way as AT commands or is it somehow different? I'm able to get the phone reply on AT commands, but no response on the protocol method so far.

[pedjulino]

Dear friends i need documentation for Nokia OTA sending rngtone,Screensaver and logo.Please help me for download this documentation.

regards

[watchman]

You can not upload the OTA format directly to the phone by cables or infrared.

OTA = Over the Air --> then it should be send over the air, not cables....

Do you have the converter to convert the midi files or rtttl to the ota format???

[liteFun]

how can those ota ringtones convert to .re ?

[jimhoyle]

Watchman: ???

OTA ringtones are sent to phone directly by for example these programs: Logomanager, Oxygen Phone Manager, Nokia PC Composer. And my dump there IS the transfer data for a test song (I just couldn't get it work).

To answer your question, there are MIDI -> OTA tools, for example here: http://www.iilcorp.com/~peter/ringtone/

I can't answer liteFun's question because I don't know what .re is like (I have no use for .re).

But I'm still waiting replies on my question.. Any hint would be great. For example do all Nokia phones work the same way when it comes to ringtones (direct) uploading? Or is there perhaps a different Connect-phrase for different phones?

[watchman]

@jimhoyle,

maybe we talking about diffrent things, what I mean by OTA ringing tones is something like this:

06050415810000024A3A655DA5D1A1BDD5D13594041E691CD51361B61A6186136389B124D8A26C6936116136166136389B124D8A26C693611613611624DB1C6D8A36C49B634DB0D30B30C31C620620618A30C4986000


How about yours? liteFun & pedjulino?

[jimhoyle]

Seems that we are talking about the same thing. Your file has a header, 06050415810000, which is not a part of the song itself though. I have the same string on my example too though.

How did you create that song? Or what I'm more interested in: In the protocol, how to Connect the phone and PC before sending the ringtone?

Why did you say that OTA couldn't be uploaded by phone or infrared? I know they can, my dump is sniffed from a working program.

My example of OTA is in the "Body = OTA" -part of my first message.

[NokDoc]

Hi,

PDU sms message format:

1. Header with receiver/ senders tel nr. etc.

2. Tone UDHI definition. (15810000)

3. The tone itself in bin format, like 023A4A..
(same representation as RTTL/RTX?, anyway same as in eeprom)

4. the checksum.

Strings like this can be directly put to outbox or send via gsm.
(like commands AT+CMGW, AT+CMGS)

Btw, do not ask about the program please.

I hope it is sufficient, because I not want to spend much time on it at the moment.
Sorry for that.

NokDoc

[jimhoyle]

Hi NokDoc, thanks for your message.

You described how to send the tone as a SMS message using AT commands. I'm more looking for the direct upload method (which doesn't require sending an SMS).

But if you can tell how to concatenate several SMSes, that would be good to know too. Is 3 SMSes the max amount?

[pedjulino]

Originally posted by NokDoc
Hi,

PDU sms message format:

1. Header with receiver/ senders tel nr. etc.

2. Tone UDHI definition. (15810000)

3. The tone itself in bin format, like 023A4A..
(same representation as RTTL/RTX?, anyway same as in eeprom)

4. the checksum.

Strings like this can be directly put to outbox or send via gsm.
(like commands AT+CMGW, AT+CMGS)

Btw, do not ask about the program please.

I hope it is sufficient, because I not want to spend much time on it at the moment.
Sorry for that.

NokDoc

Dear NokDoc can U help me for download any rrtl2ota converter or help me for download Pdu_Create software.I need see how i can modify rttl2ota file without free space in message.
Please post link for download.

best regards

[watchman]

Wow.... it looks like a good software.... can you please send it to me too....

usually I'm using midi to pdu converter from Derdack (www.derdack.com) but it is not good...

[NokDoc]

Hi,

AT+CMGW, write to phone's sms outbox.
AT+CMGS send directly via gsm.
AT+CMGR get one sms from outbox.
AT+CMGL get list of sms's from outbox.

Many more in the AT commands lists.

>> Do not ask about the program please!!!
It doesn't exist.

Mr. Pedja, my best tool is a A4 paper sheet and a pencil.

NokDoc

[pedjulino]

Mr.NokDoc

I need this converter for convert 1000 ringtone:( i need much time for convert with paper and pencil.Please help me how i can convert very easy my ringotne.
Dear friends please help me for my problem i need converter for rttl2ota or rtx2ota or pdu format for Nokia phone.

regards

[jimhoyle]

I'm still waiting for any hints.

If I put "AT", I get response (OK). But if I try to "Connect" with the following command, I get no response.

1C 00 0C D1 00 07 00 01 00 03 00 01 40 00 50 D5

What I'm doing is I'm just sending that in binary format (to the phone).

What's a fool proof way to test this protocol communication?

[watchman]

just incase you intrested...

[watchman]

just incase you intrested...

[NokiaPhreak]

Originally posted by watchman
just incase you intrested...


It seem is a prog call ringtone manager, and it require you to register.. it's a shareware i think...

but what is use for, can it convert ota to rttl?

[watchman]

@NokiaPhreak,
it can not convert OTA to rttl...