Strange message on 6230i

[Luciano_44]

I was about to unlock my 2 6230i...
the first one worked like a charm.. (it is 8 months old) unlock worked without a simcard...

the second one gave me a little problem..
and thats why I am here..

it gave a "code not accepted" on first try...
it was my fault.. i hadnt selected the right gen

Ithen selected Asic6 and Asic6
and entered another (not accepted in the network) sim-card

there it prompted me for the code.. so I entered it .. and it just swallowed it.. without any message... (not even wrong code.. nothing.. should I have entered it without the #?) i dunno.. but does that count as a try?

so i tried again with the good sim card.. (using Asic6 in both settings)
And i got the message:
This phone cannot be unlocked! (its a translation from german)
Ok.. so i tried the simcard from another provider..
Again...: this phone cannot be unlocked!!

so could it be the code was correct because the message was not "code wrong" as at the first try... (the errormessage on first try was: code wrong (code falsch in german)) but the first time i didnt use asic6 but v2..

help would be very appreciated..

Luc

[hhhhamed]

Same with me, happened to me the exact same thing, I ve entered some gen diferent from Asic6 (dont remember what) and now the phone doesnt "answer" to the #. its like if you were typing a phone number, it continues waiting for more numbers or characters. Any ideas?

[EdgeCrusher]

The phone not responding to code input, that is probably a bug in the firmware. Supposing you typed it complete, eg. #pw+15digitstring+x# (where x can be 1 to 7), under the conditions you describe the phone should have recognized it. Anyways, later the phone recognized a code, so we can assume it was a bug in the firmware.

If Micro$oft releases WinXP with 36756x10^98 security holes... Nokia can make a firmware version with a bug of course ;)

Now, two cases repeated... or there is the incredible casuality that you both have the very same firmware, or maybe there's another issue, but nothing comes to my mind right now. Maybe someone else can shed some light here.

Now.. the message the phone gave you is, in english, "cannot undo restriction". Unfortunately I have to say that there is no solution short of taking the phone to a repair shop because it is hardlocked, meaning, the five tries have been used. A small repair shop will unlock the phone for a small fee. No cable/software solution here. Expect 10-30 USD. Sorry for not bringing better news.

Best regards
Edge

[Luciano_44]

thx for your reply.. the strange thing you know.. is i got the message on 2nd try..
hmmm..

luc

[Dylf]

Hey there. It is posible for the provider to order a simlock code that isn't posible to unlock with a calculated code. Therefore it can be that the only way to unlock it is to take it to your provider and pay for it.


\dylf

[Dylf]

and by the way, it will only be counted as a try if you use #. Then you will get an error message...


\dylf

[mestrini]

Hey there. It is posible for the provider to order a simlock code that isn't posible to unlock with a calculated code. Therefore it can be that the only way to unlock it is to take it to your provider and pay for it.


\dylf

where did you get this from?

As far as everyone knows (except for BB5, which is still unrealeased) the algos are built in the phone's firmware and use known variables to generate the codes. So i can't see how a provider can "request" a custom code :???:

[Dylf]

Do you think that the provider is setting up all the setting by them selves? No, they request a "variant" that they pay for. The variant consider of a simlock, pictures and stuff that is related to customization of the phone. Then the variant is then approved by both Nokia and the provider. Then sent to the factory and then manufactured. Later the order is shipped to the provider for resale.

The simlock is defined by lots of blocks that define what you want to lock. It is possible to define a lock that can’t be unlocked by a calculated code. When the phone is flashed in the production, the simlock is “flashed” in the phone as well. The actual step is that an algorithm in the phone is building a encrypted file that is stored in the phone else ware that the phone software.

- Sorry for not making me clear in my first treat, but the provider request a simlock not a direct code. :o

[mestrini]

The simlock is defined by lots of blocks that define what you want to lock. It is possible to define a lock that can’t be unlocked by a calculated code. When the phone is flashed in the production, the simlock is “flashed” in the phone as well. The actual step is that an algorithm in the phone is building a encrypted file that is stored in the phone else ware that the phone software.


You're the first one i ever heard saying such a thing. :???:

Even phones with branded firmware ("variants" as you call them) accept codes calculated with the known algos.
What Nokia must do is flash the phone with the simlock area modified with the provider's MNC to get same result as if it was locked via box/cable, thus avoiding taking two steps to have phone with modified firmware and with simlocks on.

So far only USA's 6101's have been giving problems when entering correct codes due to (we suppose) bugs in firmware :???:

let us know where u got that info from so that we can explore that idea

cheers

[EdgeCrusher]

You're the first one i ever heard saying such a thing. :???:

Even phones with branded firmware ("variants" as you call them) accept codes calculated with the known algos.



Agree. All the phones that I've unlocked had branded firmware, and they all accepted common (meaning: generated with known variables) codes.

Best regards
Edge

[Dylf]

look in my biography!

[mestrini]

look in my biography!

"Biography:
I'm a former employee on the largest mobile company.
Location:
Denmark"

and what? that should make us believe in you?

just to start, the internet is the right place for anyone to pretend to be someone that it's not, and working in a mobile company doesn't grant access to priviledge information; you could have been a recepcionist :P

[EdgeCrusher]

"Biography:
I'm a former employee on the largest mobile company.
Location:
Denmark"


If "mobile company" includes equipment like switches, routers, digital trasmission, antennas, etc... that's Alcatel probably :lol:

Cheers
Edge