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maddog17
26-11-2002, 10:43 PM
can anyone tell me when the imei changing for 8310 program is going to be about is it next month or the other because i really need it thanks

ece
28-11-2002, 02:06 AM
I really donīt know, neither does anyone else!

IMEI changing progs for dct3 took quite a long time before they came out.

Most of the peolpe on this message board is pretty damn tired of this question becase they have answered it a thousand times...:rolleyes:

raja1963uk
05-12-2002, 12:10 PM
PLEASE PLEASE ....!! Anyone out there in the WORLD...help..i have a 6310i nokia phone which i bought through a newspaper advertisement (free Ads paper)...the telephoned worked on T-mobile for 2 weeks...then it said sim card registration failed...i unlocked it to all networks....i tried using O2 orange and vodaphone ALL of them said SIM CARD REGISTRATION FAILED..
it looks like i bought a phone either somebody did'nt pay their bill on the contract or stolen\lost....
i cannot even take it back ..because i bought it from a private advertiser......
it is the phone ID that is blocked...the imei no..........so please anyone who can help....
i have found a dct4 imei changer ...but it is fake..it is developed by someone who has grudge against jic....so please help..

DaveGSM82
17-12-2002, 08:00 PM
has anyone been able to access the code of a dct4 handset yet? am I right in thinking that the flash is encrypted? I have been thinking about the imei problem, since the imei is held within the eeprom this means we cant do anything with it, yet. I was thinking however why cant we change a few bytes of the MCU so that it does not look for the imei data in the eeprom (or whatever) and instead we could redirect it towards something else like an unused are of the PPM and write our own imei to this point, thus making it possible to change the imei by writing a different value to the PPM.

your comments?

Dave.

wings
18-12-2002, 12:51 AM
http://www.gsmhacker.com/Product/DCT4_unlock/IMEIrebuild.htm

gazt
18-12-2002, 09:54 PM
It is already possible to change IMEI on DCT4 phones :)

saj1uk
18-12-2002, 11:10 PM
well if it is already available post the software 2 proove it

Swiftie
19-12-2002, 12:20 AM
U can't jus use SW for changin IMEI on DCT4!
U need 2 change UEM & with an already written IMEI on it!!

If its only rebuilding then u can use SW!!

gazt
19-12-2002, 01:19 AM
You have to re-place a chip on the handset because the CHIP is otp (one time programable) The write new IMEI :)

wings
19-12-2002, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Swiftie
U can't jus use SW for changin IMEI on DCT4!
U need 2 change UEM & with an already written IMEI on it!!

If its only rebuilding then u can use SW!!



the UEM is empty you have to write the IMEI to it but if you want only to repair it only with software no need to change it.
regards

DaveGSM82
21-12-2002, 10:09 PM
@ wings,

What EXACTLY do you mean, REPAIRING the imei? (with the software) as if the UEM (what is the UEM?) is OTP then that is that and writing to it will be no good.

can I just ask, say some of the binary value of the imei is i.e,
01110101 (75 in hex) could the imei be changed untill all bytes are 1111 (F)? so that,
01110101 (75) becomes 01110111 (77)?

just a thought, cos I know that some ROM memories can be updated in this fasion ( like the program area of som PIC's).

your thoughts?

Dave.

p.s do you have the soft for repairing the imei? or are you just speculating?

wings
22-12-2002, 12:39 PM
The IMEI thing on DCT4 phones is a "little bit" different than on
old DCT3 phones,
therefore there will never be such a "easy" solution for DCT4 like
you know it from DCT3.

The IMEI on DCT4 phones is stored in Flash, UEM and UPP.
Since UEM chip is real OTP(One Time Programable), it isnt possible
to reprogramm the
data stored in this chip...
This means, that if you want to change the IMEI, you must replace
the "old" UEM chip with
a new one(about 8-15$) and then write new IMEI to the phone by
software(box).
Since the calculation for this isnt very easy no IMEI-change to
any digits. For now, the software comes with a few hundreds "preseted"
IMEI numbers that can
be written to your phones.
In case that you dont need to change the IMEI, but only fix a phone
with "??????????????"
IMEI you dont need to change any components. This can be done by
software only.

Summary:
If you want to REPAIR phones that have bad IMEI or bad IMEI data,
you can do it WITHOUT
opening the phone and changing components. This is done by
software+datacable only.

In case you want to CHANGE the IMEI, then you need to replace the
UEM chip first and then
write one of the "preseted" IMEIs to the phone.


regards

Kent|
23-12-2002, 03:27 AM
So.. it means that it is possible to change IMEI to a DCT4 phone?
Have anyone successfully done this?

I dont get it... :)

/kent

Swiftie
23-12-2002, 05:13 AM
Since UEM chip is real OTP(One Time Programable), it isnt possible

Who has said this apart from reverse engineers!
Coz u have 2 ask urself how do NOKIA repair or refurbish fones wen they put them in new casings! They surely dont have 2 change UEM 2 chage the IMEI! So UEM can't be OTP as sometimes wen a DCT4 fone is unlocked! It leads 2 IMEI being corrupted 2 ?????????? So if UEM woz OTP then how comes this can be done via SW!! ;) K its not a good thing! But it shows the the IMEI can be changed without a chip having 2 be replaced!

Brgs

DaveGSM82
23-12-2002, 12:46 PM
hi again wings,
I think what me and other people are trying to say is, what is the difference between repairing CORRUPTED imei (data) and actually CHANGING the imei? you say it is stored in three places, flash-uem-upp, so when corrupted which one is ACTUALLY corrupted? if uem is OTP then this must mean that it can only be flash or upp.

dave.

DaveGSM82
23-12-2002, 12:49 PM
secondly what the hell is a upp?

I'm still clinging on to hope that possibly the phone could be made to look elsewhere for the imei by manipulating flash, (whenever we figure that one out) becuase lets look at it in a very simple sense,

a phone is a computer,
we program computers to do our requests,
this particular computer is not fulfilling our requirements,
......so we re-write the software.

I.E, lets say I'm the phone......
(power).......beep......(load program from flash)......
(ok now lets log onto the network).........(retrieve imei from 0x00123ADF).......(WHADDDYA MEAN IMEI FAILED?????!!!!!)

this is the first scenario....... now lets look at the modified flash..

(power).......beep......(load program from flash)......
(ok now lets log onto the network).........(retrieve imei from 0x00129FFF ).......(hello network, any messages for me?)

does anyone else understand this concept?

dave

Swiftie
24-12-2002, 07:11 AM
I understand fully m8! :D
This is y I dont believe that there's only 1 solution 2 change IMEI!

DaveGSM82
24-12-2002, 06:00 PM
yea i no, changing the imei doesnt have to include changing the actual value, justput in our own and redirect it.

dave

sorsor
04-01-2003, 10:51 PM
I know to knowledge that is impossible rebuild the imei of a 8310 because it is codified.
For rebuilder it is necessary to create a file .ask with Phonix and to send him/it to the nokia.
The answer is a file .rpl with which rebuild is been able the imei with Phonix.

DaveGSM82
04-01-2003, 11:30 PM
GRRRRR!!!!!! I know you can rebuild the imei but what the hell is REBUILDING anyhow? its the imei that is sent to the service provider that we want to change. from what we know this is done by changing the UEM, BUT has anyone been listening to what i have been saying??!?!??!!

can we not modify a flash so that it does not send the original imei but instead sends a modified one form somewhere within the modified flash?! please can someone respond as I think this would be possible but i have no means to decrypy a flash and look at it in its basic form, and hence try to modify it.

Dave

sorsor
08-01-2003, 10:15 PM
NO! Uem or Flash.

sorsor
08-01-2003, 10:21 PM
DaveGSM82, you read "rebuild 8310 of 07/01/03"

DaveGSM82
08-01-2003, 10:35 PM
excuse me sorsor? you want me to read something?
What?

sorsor
09-01-2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by DaveGSM82
excuse me sorsor? you want me to read something?
What?

I answer to your " provocation ".

1. UPP replacing on a 8310 doesn't happen anything.
2. replacing UEM and FLASH loses imei.

After having replaced UEM or FLASH it is created a file .ask to send Nokia to the server in Firlandia.
Example file .ask:

[SER_PROG_DATA_IN]
IMEI=3507xx/xx/xxxxxx/x
PRODUCTCODE=050xxxx
DONGLE=45xxxx
CHANGED=1
DATA=0002ACE3700C0D2DFD39268F84CAF1EDA5D8F4996CD2F
313D1F39DCC87A15FFF169AD0670D464507BEBDC4359AB906F
255D674E400AE01202DA0305C152BC336353329CE457415D6B
81E
DATE=2003-xx-xx xxxx
CHECKSUM=18590

[SIM_PROG_DATA_IN]
TYPE=2
IMEI=3507xxxxxxxxxxx
PRODUCTCODE=050xxxx
DONGLE=45xxxx
CHECKSUM=-6167


The answer is a file .rpl that allows to write again the imei.
Example of file .rpl :

[SER_PROG_DATA_OUT]
IMEI=3507xxxxxxxxxxx
DATA1=26DC323E72683D98BD4F292B5FE96BA42C0DDAD7C27D
3A5FADA43EEB84434AF6B9CF16A451D9B1F2
DATA2=455A173D9D2E8F315CA24772A8E2C48B0F247EFF17A2
2E0E63BFAB5E02B874AAFF03B5CE0508A73822BBDF85271F2F
A4066EC1D4F10F53119DF8AA211A06F6362651126485256AA1
B5E13D971718079E1793F53CD02088E0
CHECKSUM=-10092

[SIM_PROG_DATA_OUT]
IMEI=3507xxxxxxxxxxx
PRODUCTCODE=050xxxx
PROG_DATA_1=001010000000000000000000000000022D28B4
BE77F10245D2CBB79E05E33E08163DADFF9C52CE0F8F2AE61A
4933940216AB
PROG_DATA_2=748169D1F99C81BD1DEC10B8EA17EA86827126
38AE04A2B33BC59BEE8BFC8E586E43C93CA5C4DE352BDD7869
7F97044BED8F
PROG_DATA_3=D781DBB14A3C139189CE0668627E17D141AFA0
BEA75767032A73B291BC0B7CB9A2F02A19E24460DBD4DBBE25
9313AD3E93A8
PROG_DATA_4=99313C82FE1484EA443EF3C5EE8984BA1C72E0
F1348AE6421BA7B7F44C3B01F07946F460ADCE5DB98AA1E141
F42F33882071
PROG_DATA_5=10798B68E5775F20210CA68EDA232F204F0A27
F8FF39162A38BEDB4A632153312D7186C528EC22C3FD247746
7B2732B3D2EA
PROG_DATA_6=DDB0DCC95BA0F4B1E2724E771416E193AA1F26
49C14D8797E7C08FC5AE508039CEFAC63F5A4A09597FA198F6
F151832423A7
PROG_DATA_7=142BEA391B5DE877DDC354F90AC7264CC3F603
70B243DB369A97D12A1D16248CA90B88D7CA94EE3FF7546A87
FB436DF4F6BA
PROG_DATA_8=913C0A03AB8FD788C4B01D26CA13FC6E32360E
6C08BC5A5CD734E2E44BA43EC00AC026EF8A92878300B2A23C
01C333F6D531
PROG_DATA_9=4AD59C65663F8D00DF129A11707EAC8EAD0714
411F8BEC0D2C41AB8919DD6302BA9A72AF46755E323702EE4B
7FA56DF238AA
PROG_DATA_10=A39D9F2A105BA860C235E35371FEC4B9821A7
A37C8E3823FA8FB99C0547DD840BBB7AB34E36EFF0DCF0AC4B
AFACC4A601855
PROG_DATA_11=CFB2D25FC5046E97149E2D899FF05AD04BF37
6AB7E8E939933AC55C6C6839A578859012D979984AEFDDE5FA
D8CB226639DC3
PROG_DATA_12=B72976C216AEF436304D4DDD356628DEE02B0
4EE48CE0769DAF5624FBAD7109904BA756856DA5CA58F4CD65
90A2564529546
PROG_DATA_13=A5E7B012E56E8545954589ACBE3C8D847D6E2
AFC93525361CC99364198096A576160AF80C7E4D0E356787D0
FCCCA69115D46
PROG_DATA_14=415214CCB421688350E0B4D6F7AA28ED9EEFE
42F0EEFEB45CCE5F59C1C9B1C7E0BCE98646F9090E39F18FC4
6D9D90AEC7BB1
PROG_DATA_15=9F2E02E48385CD2CEE4E4DD89461CCC8554BE
363BEAD01C984BE925C340BD825CE4147D9B8072EEE9B6F352
D06FDB394E0C9
PROG_DATA_16=7C246C551BABD1EC61FA9DC085C26DE1A56BA
15D272BBE8AC20F483404575D586F8DBC1E2F94A4B7035F67C
0CE6BCEF90960
PROG_DATA_17=CC82F0543FBDF918BDC803A3F3718563BB545
2CD4DCCDF5BC3B6E363EE4DCA28D079C24A62B0DB398360360
9B9042201A2A2
PROG_DATA_18=290AFCB28C9F4D141027EC6802137F895B9F5
14D5B25DE5B3D832E66AE742F122E70017EDDFED69840D236D
6541085B32F09
PROG_DATA_19=C055BFECFF6FF05A97D5930071B0521B70FF9
084FA6447830953BAF8657AFD2C12B845CA422B17E56D1717C
378F1AAEF0B7C
PROG_DATA_20=2676
CHECKSUM=29780


I hope for to have been clear in to say that you/he/she is codified.
I intended to say that it is very difficult if not impossible to write the imei on a 8310 (7210,6610,6510,7650,ecc) changing a component BGA or alone rewrite.

P.S. you Excuse of mine bad English.

NDI
30-01-2003, 07:29 PM
I understand completely what Dave's talking about. If we could change the flash so that it looks somewhere elce for the IMEI number, then we can change it. All we have to hope is that theres a teeny weenie bit of space left on the flash so we can write a IEMI to it.

Just thinking aobut it in more depth, does anyone have a nokia 8310 software thingie, the software thats on the phone. I could look at it an see if its possable to change the place where it looks for the IMEI.

Also, another good point Dave mentioned, was that you could change the IMEI on the OTP chip by replacing a 0 in the hex of the IMEI to a 1. This __SHOULD__ work, as when you first get a OTP the whole chip is full of 0's.

Swiftie
30-01-2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by NDI
Just thinking aobut it in more depth, does anyone have a nokia 8310 software thingie, the software thats on the phone. I could look at it an see if its possible to change the place where it looks for the IMEI.


Well lets hope you can decrypt DCT4 flash as if u try 2 read it wit HEX your not going to see n e thing really!! :rolleyes:

Brgs

NDI
30-01-2003, 07:44 PM
True

I'd need to find some way of decoding it.

Another thing i was just thinking about, would be to insert the IMEI into the flash, instead of getting it to read from another place.

74108520
31-01-2003, 04:08 AM
i've no problem changing any chips on the board, the problem is where to get the SW support.

NDI
31-01-2003, 07:07 PM
THat chip is nearly impossable to replace. Needs soldering from below it, which as theres only 1mm to work with, is kind of impossable.

Anyone here have an 8310 they are willing to swap for mine which is blocked in the UK??

74108520
31-01-2003, 07:28 PM
of course you can't rework with a soldering rod

NDI
01-02-2003, 12:01 AM
then how the hell do u do it.

Forhike
20-02-2003, 01:14 PM
howto echange chip in nokia dct4 phones

1. go to store, buy a phone (the same model as the blasklisted phone you have)

2. go home exchange, moderboard from stolen blavklisted phone with the one in the new phone with waranty.

3. go outside, place the new phone with warranty and have the motherboard with blacklisted imei inside. under the car, then go in to the car and drive over the phone a couple of times, ohh it's trashed nothing is left, place all parts in a bag, put it in the box, go to the store and tell you that you have had a exident =(...

4. you now have one phone with working (not blacklisted imei)

5. hopfully you have a nice "enchurange" that will replace your new phone (onoff sweden has that) and they will call you later telling you that your phone could not be rapaired because that to damaged, and that you can come back to the store and get a new phone)

6. now for my question, will they blacklist the old imei from the trashed phone ?

else this works just fine for me

NDI
21-02-2003, 02:09 AM
yea, but that spits out errors. IE - WHERE THE HELL ARE WE GNA GET 200 QUID FROM!?

Forhike
21-02-2003, 08:07 AM
ex. my bank account, sell som stuff that i don't use my mc, some celluar phones...

but you'r right perhaps it wasn't that good idea

DaveGSM82
21-02-2003, 11:08 AM
I have spotted other errors too, I think that the shop you bought it from (unless thick as a pale of sh1t) would realise that the phone has been ran over by a car, repatedly. you're better off putting the main board in the microwave for a few secs and this will give no visible damage but will fry the uem at least.

Then I suppose if the shop laughs in your face at the prospect of a refund you will still have usefull parts IE screen,batt, bottom connector and of course those precious original nokia fascias.

Dave.

Forhike
21-02-2003, 01:06 PM
heh ops almost forgot to tel you that i already have done this, but with old phones like nokia 6210, nokia 3310, and ericsson T28..
one thing is that i think that they will start vonder if you return to the same shop every week with a broken 8310...

so this is most likely a solution for swaping just a single phone, but still a solution

and another thing when you buy phone in onoff stores they will most likley ask you if you want a addon ensurange "don't know if it's the real word" that will cover water dammage, and other damages on the phone, they even told me that one time a person came in with his phone in a bag just in small pices..
he had acedently drove over the phone... and just in case i should take that ensurence in case of a accident

another friend did crash his phone with a hammer, went to the store and got a new...

and another friend did place it in the car door, then crush the phone that way... got a new phone

another did place the phone in glas of water, and he got a new

i have alot of more examples.. and all you need to pay for the new phone is 96 skr (about 9,6$) for the paper work and shipping

NDI
21-02-2003, 06:03 PM
Too much hastle tbh.

Anyone actually working on an IMEI change?

Anyone with a barred 8310 in any other country to UK who would like to swap?

vahid
27-02-2003, 01:10 AM
soon

NDI
27-02-2003, 01:33 AM
soon what

Damian
03-03-2003, 04:01 PM
look why dont we just get some really cool hacker like neo from matrix to hack into nokia server and copy all files. or we could get mulder and scully to investigate it. cos this DCT4 imei changing lark is a bloody mystery to everyone so far.......

@vahid
how soon?

Damian

NDI
04-03-2003, 07:52 PM
/me hax nokia's datacenter

Damian
05-03-2003, 09:24 AM
juist dont get caught......and get the damn encryption key.....


obviously i dont condone this (well not if you get caught i dont)

:D :p :D


Damian

NDI
05-03-2003, 08:49 PM
OK...

I've found out somthing amazing.

DCT4 is NOT encrypted.

it uses ARM :P

/me learns ARM

Damian
06-03-2003, 09:53 AM
FINALLY!!!!!

sounds like we could be on to a winner......

**does a little NDI dance**

Makaveli789
07-03-2003, 10:50 AM
hi i just wanted ask, how close is anyone to cracking this 8310 imei so that it doesnt check it against the barred list of imei's.

I mean quite a lot of people are waiting for this if i am not mistaken, and i think that anyone how is working on this should post how close they are, so that we know how long it will be. And if necessary, swap the phone internationally with someone, if it is too long to wait. Thanks

Damian
07-03-2003, 10:59 AM
well it is going to be as long as a piece of string.

no one knows how close they are we can only tell you what developements have been made....

Damian

ahib
07-03-2003, 03:56 PM
@NDI me thinks you R coool:) you got any infos on ARM? coz Ive been lookin cant find:(

markchee
07-03-2003, 05:20 PM
No wher to go so dont mind this.
I got a 6510 *#06# it shows this - Serial no.
????????????????00
00





Quit



Question how to get the org imei back or whatsever?


mark

NDI
07-03-2003, 05:36 PM
u need to look into reparing the IMEI. I take it u flashed it?

Theres some progs out there that do it, but i think u need a flasher cable

Makaveli789
07-03-2003, 06:20 PM
hi there NDI

Can you tell me what developments have been made then please.

Also this thing (that im assuming your working on) is it intended to work for all dct4 phones? has somebody already brought similar software for dct3, or was that just to change the dct4 phones' imeis'.

markchee
07-03-2003, 06:20 PM
Sir,I reflash it twice,but still the same problems.With dongles V1.1


sincerely
mark

popzzz
11-10-2003, 04:57 PM
greetings!

could you please tell me what flash is??

did you manage to find out how to change the IMEI without replacing the UEM chip??

regards

pops

Alinus
13-10-2003, 02:41 PM
greetings!

could you please tell me what flash is??

did you manage to find out how to change the IMEI without replacing the UEM chip??

regards

pops


to be clear and close this topic:

UNTIL NOW NOT POSSIBILE CHANGING IMEI WITHOUR REPLACIN UEM.

be sure that when and if it will be....advertising for this will be huge ! and we all shall know.

popzzz
13-10-2003, 03:12 PM
to be clear and close this topic:

UNTIL NOW NOT POSSIBILE CHANGING IMEI WITHOUR REPLACIN UEM.

be sure that when and if it will be....advertising for this will be huge ! and we all shall know.


i know one web-site thats already advertising it!! i e-mailed them and asked them how do they change the IMEI number without replacing the UEm chip??

they reply and said that the IMEI BOX sends a elctirc circuit to the UEM chip which erases the old IMEI number so a new one can be written on!!

they're charging $850. GOB SMACKING PRICE'S

http://www.cvv2decoders.com/DIR/Main.html

Peace out, PoPs.

Salami1_1
13-10-2003, 08:04 PM
i know one web-site thats already advertising it!! i e-mailed them and asked them how do they change the IMEI number without replacing the UEm chip??

they reply and said that the IMEI BOX sends a elctirc circuit to the UEM chip which erases the old IMEI number so a new one can be written on!!

they're charging $850. GOB SMACKING PRICE'S

http://www.cvv2decoders.com/DIR/Main.html

Peace out, PoPs.

haha sorry that I laugh.. but that site is biggest FAKE site in gsm busines! The owner of that site is BIGGEST cheater there is..
Don't believe anything on that site!
Like alinus said.. only way to change imei on DCT4 is changing UEM..
WBR

djmc2003
29-11-2003, 03:43 PM
Hello, I have a question...

Is it possible for a legitimate phone to be accidently blacklisted?

How does the blacklisting process work?

And how would you appeal without proof of purchase?

I have a legitimate 6620, but me being a dumbass I inserted a "found" SIM Card into it... BAM! My phone's IMEI is blacklisted...

How can I appeal to get the blacklist removed?

I have no proof of purchase.

Thanks for your help guys.

Tara 10
03-10-2004, 08:40 PM
It is already possible to change IMEI on DCT4 phones :)


gazt can you t6ell me how to change IMEI on DCT4 nokia 8310 phones

Regards

Tara 10 :-?